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Here we go again…yes Im going here.

I’ll be laughed at for saying it, but isnt it odd, that Jack ends up in the exact same position this time, on his back in the middle of the jungle, as in the pilot episode. And Im noy talking about Bens rod beside his head, or reflection in his eye. This is a whole new thought based on the new episode.
Maybe its just coincidence. Maybe when the flash hapened it was different then the first time.
Or maybe Jack flashed into the jungle, flat on his back, in the pilot episode, just like the beginning of this one, and we are too busy saying thats too obvious, just like we do every day, and missed it. Well, caught it and dropped it on purpose maybe.
I dont believe in coincidence on this show, never have, never will.

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21 thoughts on “Here we go again…yes Im going here.

  1. I guess i will rip off my comments to your comments in your last post. Sounds like we are both in a time loop 🙂

    How do you think Jack flashed the first time?
    1. do you think was on the Island before the pilot episode happened
    or
    2. he is in a time loop of sorts, but each version of the loop some things change such as the flight that gets him to the Island to being with.

    I’m pretty sure we know he doesn’t remember the first plane crashing either, but he also didn’t remember anything in the pilot, so maybe the whole time loop thing is off.

  2. The only person I remember saying that they didnt blackout on the way down was Kate. I always figured it meant something more. Still not sure what, if anything.
    And unless you believe in timeloop, you dont even want to get me started on that. It always seems to end with me arguing with ten other people about the variations of timeloop they could use or if in general there has been timeloops already on Lost.
    Its never pretty, I kind of try to stay away from that word.

  3. I have a comment that could sound insulting to people, but it supports your discussion here.

    So, that’s my qualifier that I could tick people off, and for that, I am sorry.

    As I love to randomly point out, Lost is a television show. It has to appeal to a lot of people. It is great for the kind of people who visit this site and take time to research and ‘catch’ all the connections. But it also has to appeal to the ‘common’ person. (Sorry, couldn’t think of a better word.) It has to appeal to 14 year olds that are going, “HEY! I think Ajira is the airline that Juliet talked about when they found those boats! Wait, that’s the same airline that Jack and Kate are back on!” GASP!

    Does that make sense? It’s not to make people sound stupid, but there will be some people who watch this show because they love the characters, because Jack and Sawyer are hot, because they want to see who Kate ends up with, because they want someone to stick a gun to Ben’s head and for it to work. Not for any other reasons about timeloops, or faith vs. science, or physics.

    So, in my opinion, some things that are “obvious” and seemingly “too obvious”, as if they should be discounted as having no meaning whatsoever, have to be considered in light of it being a television show that has to appeal to many kinds of people. So obvious is okay. So maybe all they intended was for us to think, “haven’t I seen this before?”

    I love the ‘coincidences’ on this show because they are so intentional in the hands of producers.

  4. For a while I thought that Jack(or anyone) being in a time loop seemed ridiculous… but I recently rewatched the pilot episode and something seemed off to me. When Jack, Kate, and Charlie are leaving the cockpit (when the pilot got yanked out) and being chased by smokey Jack comes back to save Charlie then disappears for a few minutes. When Kate and Charlie find him and asks where he has been he says he just dove in the bushes. Of course the first time I saw this episode it didn’t seem odd but come on its smokey, you can’t just dive in the bushes to get away. And the way he says it, like he is trying to find an excuse. It could be possible that he is in a time loop and the island still needs him or… I know i’ll be stoned for this, the Jack that meets back up with the Losties is the Jack that flashed back onto the island.

  5. Time travel in this show is way too big to be just something they added later. It was planned all along…

    I’m not too sure about timeloop theories… at least not for explaining things for the show overall. But there is definitely something odd about Jack saying he dove into the bushes in the pilot. He was lying. I wonder what really happened? I think we’re going to find out, maybe soon..

  6. Jack waking up where he did is his entry point. Just like Tunisia is the exit, that grove of bamboo tree is Jack’s entry point. remember we never saw where Kate woke up in the Pilot, so she could have entered at the lagoon for all we’ve been shown.

  7. AES, I don’t find it laughable, at all. I just responded to a similar post by cappayne.

    I think too many of us agree that our attention is being drawn to Jack’s opening scene and episode 316, for a purpose.

    Great comments and good thoughts!

  8. NMB that was great!

    Gotta watch the first episode (again! Groan.)…

    Remember that is the point at which they had Jack being killed in their original concept for the pilot and Kate was supposed to become the hand-off character – she was to be the real hero of the series.

  9. To Thomas5,
    Didn’t the writters say that they had put Adam&Eve in S1 so that by the end of the series we could all be certain that they had it all planned from the start? If whoever they turn out to be really does come to prove that, then you’ll have your answer, Thomas :]

    NMB, I re-watched the Pilot last week and thought the same thing! Something about Jack seemed a bit off. Like he was avoiding to answer truthfully or just dismissing the question as fast as he could.

  10. I have yet to see any actual interview where they said any of that. If it exists, please post a link.
    I have heard that Adam and Eve will come back into play.
    And I have heard that there is only one cast member who knows the ending, never heard it was Foxy though. I saw him on the tonight show or something like that, where they asked him if he knew what was going to happen. As far as I could tell he was playing around like many of them do when asked that question. I did hear a podcast from back in season 3, where one of the producers said only 3, and the other one jumped in and said 4 people know the planned ending. But I would imagine they wouldnt reveal if a cast member knew, it could jepordize a secret of the show somehow.
    Could be wrong, post a link if you got one though.

  11. i watched the pilot again yesterday and looked out for what you said about jack jumping in the bushes. what if he was actually caught by the monster and was lying about that instead of being a Jack in time travel mode.

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