Too obvious? Two Johns?
Im guessing the people chasing the boat that the leftover losties steal (Sawyer, Locke, Juliet, Miles, and the gang) are the survivors of the new crash. Not sure if it wasnt meant to be and i am presumputious, or if it was just too obvious to talk about. But the boats, and the Ajira airlines bottle, it would probably be Illana, Cesar, and some of the other survivors. They may see Locke even and think he is the John that is in the suit saying he died. They could possibly be chasing the wrong Locke….Or if Locke is on the boat, he could be chasing himself.
Either way, let me know, didnt see this discussed anywhere.
My guess is the same thing kinda. Lock escapes the 316ers (316ers wants his blood due to Ben manipulating them into thinking he’s a bad guy – think Walt and Johns convo). They chase Lock to the other Island. They finally see Lock with Sawyer, Juliet, & Miles take the other boat and go shooting after him. It does seem a bit obvious.
Question for you – why do you think Sun didn’t flash like Hurley, Jack and Kate?? Did the Island not need her?
We don’t definitely know its Sun do we. All i heard her say is a woman
username – For your question, why must we assume that the flashes mean that they are “needed”.
SwanStation – I was kind of thinking, Ilana describes Locke as “an old man with a suit on” and describes Sun as a “woman”. Not to be racist, but if I was Ilana, I would have said “The pilot and an Asian woman took a boat…”
I was actually wondering if a) it has to do with the fact she was pregnant when she left, or b) has to do with seating on the plane. The only people we know for sure flashed, was Hurley, Jack, and Kate. So out of 5/6 of the O6 that returned, 1/5 went somewhere else for sure, that being Sun. The other 1/5 is MIA, that being Sayid.
I swear Im not trying to seem intelligent by using fractions, I just try not to confuse MYSELF, when I post sometimes.
Ok, I actually say it this way for one reason, my sanity. I figure, there is no way to know why Sun didnt flash, until we know where Sayid went. If he flashed, maybe its because the baby didnt return, so she was not “whole” in a sense.
If he didnt flash, then I have no idea…seriously. I think O am making up reasons because it is bugging me so much.
Funny though, I’ll be laughed at for saying it, but isnt it odd, that Jack ends up in the exact same position this time, on his back in the middle of the jungle, as in the pilot episode.
Maybe its just coincidence. Maybe when the flash hapened it was different then the first time.
Or maybe Jack flashed into the jungle, flat on his back, in the pilot episode, just like the beginning of this one, and we are too busy saying thats too obvious, just like we do every day, and missed it. Well, caught it and dropped it on purpose maybe.
I dont believe in coincidence on this show, never have, never will.
Hi cappayne. that’s a good point, I’m trying to some how separate the 2 groups based on what happened to them. I expected as much that the passengers who were not part of the original losties would land in real time and I can even accept Ben and the pilot not flashing as they were not on 815. But I would expect all the original losties that crashed the first time would reach the Island the same way.
A.E.S., that’s a good point about Sayid. where is he in all this? maybe he is with the 316ers and chained up somewhere and didn’t flash either. His security guard should have mentioned it, so we could probably assume that he is with her locked up.
as for jack landing in the same position, that’s a good observation and worth a theory. jack is obviously special somehow and i don’t believe it’s his second time on the island. maybe he’s in some kind of time loop and he can’t seem to get out it. each version of the loop he makes the same mistakes over and over. someone posted a theory about the very last episode of lost will end like the first, but it seems they already did that with last weeks show.
Think your right usrename, thanks for confidense boost, just waiting for the pitchforks and torches now, for bringing up the opening scene of the pilot..lol
AES, I think we can safely say, when Sawyer, Juliette, and Miles, et el come up on the beach, they see the canoes, and find the Ajira water bottle.They take one of the canoes.
We know Frank Lapidus, likely in the company of Sun, left ahead of the other #316’ers, and Sawyer & company in another canoe.
Some of the 316’ers take the remaining canoe and encounter Sawyer’s group.
I’m not sure about Locke, though.
‘they want to hurt you’ by Walt gives me my idea that they are looking/chasing the wrong John
I thought it was obvious when we see Jack on his back. The first thing I thought of was the Pilot. I didn’t know so many people would be like “great find” in terms of it… it just seemed like something that younger/casual viewers were supposed to recognize.
And regardless of what happened with the scene being like the first scene of LOST, I could have told you before season 5 that the ending of LOST would not be the same as the beginning.
Sorry to be the one to pour cold water on this fine discussion but where do our 316-ers get guns from and how are they such good marksmen?
Liking the idea that Sun and Frank were the pilot and the woman…
Hi Missus, Cesar found and took a shotgun from the Station, he was in.
We don’t know much about Cesar, but if he took a shotgun, chances are, he knows how to use it.
I just realised we haven’t seen this yet. Will we see it next season? I hope so.
It’ll be interesting to see who it was shooting at Locke, Sawyer, et al.
Perhaps whoever was shooting thought the Locke on the boat was the “Anti-Locke”?
Hey, forgot I even wrote this, lol.
I hope we do see it, I forgot about the scene as well…I mean,..yeah, I knew there would be two Lockes exactly as it happened all along, lol, thats why I wrote this title, left the good part out, though, didnt want to spoil anything….
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