Comments on: Revealing Penelope Widmore

By: waycurious

waycurious — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:57:23 +0000

I think Ben tricked Widmore to spin the wheel and Charles doesn’t know he can come back by dying and being returned there, like Locke & Christian.

Ben became ‘the leader’ by agreeing to ‘the purge’.

Maybe he tricked Charles to get him off the island w/Penny ‘to save her from the purge’? Remember, Charles is ‘hostile’ and may not know of ways to get off the island, they didn’t have access to the sub ’till the purge. Ben is Dharma.

Also – maybe Ben went back so Charles doesn’t spin the wheel expecting Penny to die in the purge?

Widmore seemed pretty lowly on the island, so hardly passed the test given as kids. AND, his ancestors ‘found’ the island on the Black Rock … making him covet it (or maybe he’s just saying so) It’s HIS. (Do we know if the ‘hostiles’ came from the Black Rock or not)

Maybe he tricked Christian (who makes more sense as a leader) to spin the wheel, too?

By: cappayne

cappayne — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:38 +0000

whatistime (fitting name haha) – We don’t know if time always moved slower on the island, it could have only been becuase of Dharma, The Incident or something else.

We know that the babies on the island problems didn’t always exist… so you never know.

By: whatistime

whatistime — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:26:38 +0000

yeah good theory definately, one thing though if he was on the island 30 years that doesnt necessarily mean he aged 30 years, we know island time is much slower. When the 06 came back 3 years had gone by with only 3 months of island time, so roughly a month island time is 1 year real world time. Widmore couldve meant that when he became leader and then came off the island 30 years had gone by but really it may have only been a short time on the island.

Im sure someone else knows about the island time etc, dont think ive explained to well lol, but i think it should be included in the theory

By: Andre7

Andre7 — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:27:46 +0000

They did not between themselves but one of them switches to heavily accented English when speaking to Penny over the phone.

By: cappayne

cappayne — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:08:45 +0000

I’m not sure if the Portuguese men actually spoke in English.

By: Andre7

Andre7 — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:43:16 +0000

Yes. Last scene of last episode season 2.

By: oompaloompa

oompaloompa — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:09:16 +0000

Starting to read your theory I was saying ‘no, no’, but by the end of it I think you may be on to something. The pregnancy issue aside (that I don’t think was an issue up until Dharma, as it was already said), it seems actually ridiculously obvious how Penny just seems to accept things most people would be wary about. And she doesn’t really question things a lot.

“she gets a call from the 2 Porteguese men at the listening station who say they found

By: Andre7

Andre7 — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:05:45 +0000

You compiled your facts very well.

Is it possible that Widmore was never the official leader of Richard’s others?

Could Widmore have become leader of a break-off faction of those others/hostiles who then formed the Dharma initiative off the island?

He would still claim to be the leader of the others. Then when Ben helps the ‘Hostiles’ to sabotage communications, subvert the Dharma Initiative from within and purge the rest, Widmore would become his mortal enemy.

So when Widmore tells Ben that ‘everything you have you took from me’ he is referring to all the subverted resources of the Dharma and the leadership of the remaining faction on the island (not to mention the remaining equipment and technological advances that Widmore brought to the island in the 1970s and 1980s.

By: eggotised1

eggotised1 — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:25:32 +0000

She must have some knowledge of the island. How else did her scientists know to look for a magnetic anomaly (a property of the island) in Antarctica (can you say Polar Bears?)? excellent observation. As for her contacting the Listening Station, she was already nearing the island’s location and could have picked up a radio signal. Remember, the Others that were down in that station monitoring every type of call coming in from the outside world. But then again, maybe Penny knew about the Listening station. It’s all speculation, but we’ll see how it goes.

By: dabiatchishere

dabiatchishere — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:15:03 +0000

This is a great theory, cappayne! You put all of your facts together quite nicely!

I also put Penny’s age to be between 30-35 years of age, and agree with your time-line on Widmore’s reign on ‘the island’.

I also agree that Ms. Hawking is not her mother!

Your observations about Penny are accurate. Penny never says she was or she wasn’t ever born on ‘the island’.

In fact, she says very little. Penny has some knowledge of ‘the island’. I doubt this information came from her father.

It will be quite interesting to find out Penny’s history.