Comments on: Why was Ben beat up?

By: waycurious

waycurious — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:07:30 +0000

Ben was beat up ‘cuz he gets people confidence by playing their emotion.

My take: Widmore left the island w/Penny before the purge by turning the wheel and thinks he can’t come back (like Ben did), and Ben went back with the right time/coordinates to get back to the time before Widmore left so he can off Penny.

By: cappayne

cappayne — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 06:54:24 +0000

Charlie murdered? That is SO low.

By: Damon Cuse

Damon Cuse — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 05:06:34 +0000

I think we have to assume that Ben went for Penny. In the enhanced episode, when Ben talks about the promise to an old friend, it mentions his promise to kill Widmore’s daughter.

When we see Ben at the phone, he actually seems shooken up. After the way he looked after killing Locke, I don’t think Penny’s blood would shake him much and there’s always something the show throws in we never expected, so here’s my take.

Ben goes to kill Penny and is in the middle of the job when Charlie (Penny’s son) walks in. Ben’s unaware of his existence and kills Charlie thinking originally he’s Desmond. He then freezes a la Michael after Libby, allowing Desmond to walk in and catch Ben in the act. Desmond beats him to a pulp in time to save Penny, but not in time to save Charlie. This event drives Penny back to the island.

By: almostcrimes

almostcrimes — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:38:42 +0000

We are led to believe that as soon as Desmond “remembered” his encounter with Faraday he immediately set sail to the UK to find Daniel’s mother. He appears to waste no time and even goes as far as confronting Charles Widmore who provides him with her contact information in LA. Given his desire to complete his task and move on with his life I find it very hard to believe that Desmond’s next step is to set sail from the UK towards Los Angeles. A flight from London to the UK would take what? 10 hours? I have absolutely no idea how long it would take to sail from the UK to Los Angeles in a boat like Desmond’s but I would (will?) be surprised if it takes less than a week.

This is the one and only reason why I do not think that Ben went after Penny at the marina. In past seasons this would seem like a standard setup to make us believe one thing when another is true, though I have to say that this season seems to be doing less and less of that.

By: cappayne

cappayne — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:16:11 +0000

I wrote a theory about this right after that episode. there are a lot of comments on it, check it out.

My input:

-Penny is alive.
-I definately think Ben went for Penny, but I think it was Sayid who hurt him seeing as Sayid says “The next time I see you (Ben) it won’t be pleasant.” After he says this line, where does he go? He has no where to go, so it could be fair to say he was around the marina at the time.

Side note question: We know that some people “can’t” die; we see guns jam, bullets being non-fatal, etc. But what happens if someone gets repeatedly punched in the face, or if someone takes a knife and starts cutting them up. Do they just re-assemble? I don’t get it.

By: Rhino

Rhino — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:40:06 +0000

Eggo, I think you’ve just written the entire flashback on how Ben got all bloody. While I fear the worst for Penny, it would give serious motivation to Desmond to bring her body back to the island in hope that it could be resurrected.

By: dabiatchishere

dabiatchishere — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:19:02 +0000

eggotised1, I think you are correct about Ben getting a proverbial ‘whooping’ from Desmond!

I’m hoping he didn’t succeed, but I don’t know if Penny would want to go back to ‘the island’, willingly with Desmond.

Unless, she survived Ben’s attack, and was so angry, knowing that her own father brought on Ben’s wrath, that she decides to go willingly.

Just a guess, but it looks like they might sail back!

Good thoughts!