Comments on: What if Ben is really dead? http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/03/what-if-ben-is-really-dead/ A place to write and read Lost Theories Thu, 17 May 2012 19:43:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: MacCutcheon http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/03/what-if-ben-is-really-dead/#comment-8304 MacCutcheon Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:46:47 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=1946#comment-8304 I agree, he might be dead. Or might have died (does that make him *dead*? - I don't know any more!). I don't think there needed to be any kind of deal between Ben and Sayid though. It could just be the way it happened. If Ben knew that was the way it happened, that's probably why he's been conditioning Sayid to keep killing, while Sayid was trying to shake off that part of his past. I agree, he might be dead. Or might have died (does that make him *dead*? – I don’t know any more!).

I don’t think there needed to be any kind of deal between Ben and Sayid though. It could just be the way it happened. If Ben knew that was the way it happened, that’s probably why he’s been conditioning Sayid to keep killing, while Sayid was trying to shake off that part of his past.

]]> By: dabiatchishere http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/03/what-if-ben-is-really-dead/#comment-7321 dabiatchishere Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:09:56 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=1946#comment-7321 emagic, I have also wondered if Ben is in some 'altered' state, such as John Locke, Richard and Christian. I think Ben is alive, but I also think he possesses some kind of magical element about him! I'm not quite sure what that is, but I think we are getting a better understanding of what some of his powers might be. Nice theory! emagic, I have also wondered if Ben is in some ‘altered’ state, such as John Locke, Richard and Christian.

I think Ben is alive, but I also think he possesses some kind of magical element about him!

I’m not quite sure what that is, but I think we are getting a better understanding of what some of his powers might be.

Nice theory!

]]> By: henrygale108 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/03/what-if-ben-is-really-dead/#comment-6690 henrygale108 Sat, 28 Mar 2009 01:20:52 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=1946#comment-6690 RAdzinsky should have been the one to get shot....that guys a douche RAdzinsky should have been the one to get shot….that guys a douche

]]> By: Benhamine http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/03/what-if-ben-is-really-dead/#comment-6642 Benhamine Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:45:59 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=1946#comment-6642 I've really liked the idea of Sawyer being the new 'leader.' The scene where he puts Jack in his place at Sawyer's house really solidified his role as a leader I felt. However, I think that in the upcoming episodes Sawyer is going to either be dethroned or give up his leader chair to Jack. Reasons: Lost writers are portraying him as a selfish ass who's power has gone to his head. Also the Scene where Sawyer finds Juliette looking out the window at Kate. Juliette: "This is all over isn't it." Sawyer: "I'm going to get Sayid out of this. It's all going to be alright" I saw this scene as extreme foreshadowing. Now that it's becoming clear that Sawyer is not able to handle the Sayid situation and from looking at the 'Next week on Lost...' it appears that the losties are going to be ousted. Once they see what Sawyer has done (try to have Sayid killed just to keep playing house) they will turn to Jack for leadership. Now this isn't what I want, but I do think it's what's going to happen -Benhamine I’ve really liked the idea of Sawyer being the new ‘leader.’ The scene where he puts Jack in his place at Sawyer’s house really solidified his role as a leader I felt. However, I think that in the upcoming episodes Sawyer is going to either be dethroned or give up his leader chair to Jack.

Reasons:
Lost writers are portraying him as a selfish ass who’s power has gone to his head.

Also the Scene where Sawyer finds Juliette looking out the window at Kate.
Juliette: “This is all over isn’t it.”
Sawyer: “I’m going to get Sayid out of this. It’s all going to be alright”
I saw this scene as extreme foreshadowing. Now that it’s becoming clear that Sawyer is not able to handle the Sayid situation and from looking at the ‘Next week on Lost…’ it appears that the losties are going to be ousted. Once they see what Sawyer has done (try to have Sayid killed just to keep playing house) they will turn to Jack for leadership.

Now this isn’t what I want, but I do think it’s what’s going to happen

-Benhamine

]]> By: BennyTN http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/03/what-if-ben-is-really-dead/#comment-6633 BennyTN Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:09:48 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=1946#comment-6633 He definitely did eff it up bad but a lot of what this show has been about is redemption. He definitely did eff it up bad but a lot of what this show has been about is redemption.

]]> By: Wesley http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/03/what-if-ben-is-really-dead/#comment-6606 Wesley Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:34:28 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=1946#comment-6606 AES tey actually canged their statement on that because they weren't going to originally.....I think. Anyway if you get a sec pop onto my last theory i've posted some interesting biblical notes.....i think I know how lost ends.....and i think I know why Smokey killed Eko....because he built a church. Richard is ageless God walking among his people and so on....ya know the usual but the links iv got are awesum....chek it out. AES tey actually canged their statement on that because they weren’t going to originally…..I think. Anyway if you get a sec pop onto my last theory i’ve posted some interesting biblical notes…..i think I know how lost ends…..and i think I know why Smokey killed Eko….because he built a church. Richard is ageless God walking among his people and so on….ya know the usual but the links iv got are awesum….chek it out.

]]> By: highbrow http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/03/what-if-ben-is-really-dead/#comment-6605 highbrow Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:31:06 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=1946#comment-6605 But Jack has been the hero and the leader before and he effed it up! The leader part, not the hero part. Sure, people want to follow him... that doesn't mean it's a good idea! But Jack has been the hero and the leader before and he effed it up! The leader part, not the hero part. Sure, people want to follow him… that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea!

]]> By: BennyTN http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/03/what-if-ben-is-really-dead/#comment-6600 BennyTN Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:16:32 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=1946#comment-6600 Highbrow, I will have to go back and read the leader conversation. Do you know the name of the thread by chance? Anyway, I disagree that Jack is not a leader. Maybe he isn't the best leader in the world, but he is still a leader. People want to follow him. He has the natural charisma that people are just drawn to. That is exactly how he became the leader back in season 1. Sawyer, too, has this charisma but was unwilling to be the leader way back when. He has gradually changed over the seasons and is willing to lead now, but I believe that Jack is about to take back his leadership role. In the case of lost, hero = leader = hero, to me anyway. Highbrow, I will have to go back and read the leader conversation. Do you know the name of the thread by chance?

Anyway, I disagree that Jack is not a leader. Maybe he isn’t the best leader in the world, but he is still a leader. People want to follow him. He has the natural charisma that people are just drawn to. That is exactly how he became the leader back in season 1. Sawyer, too, has this charisma but was unwilling to be the leader way back when. He has gradually changed over the seasons and is willing to lead now, but I believe that Jack is about to take back his leadership role. In the case of lost, hero = leader = hero, to me anyway.

]]> By: username http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/03/what-if-ben-is-really-dead/#comment-6589 username Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:41:27 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=1946#comment-6589 highbrow, i liken jack to the great Winston Churchill, perfect in times of distress, not so great in the good times. respect! highbrow, i liken jack to the great Winston Churchill, perfect in times of distress, not so great in the good times. respect!

]]> By: highbrow http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/03/what-if-ben-is-really-dead/#comment-6583 highbrow Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:19:55 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=1946#comment-6583 I don't remember what post it was but we had a pretty good discussion a little while back about the difference between a leader and a hero. Jack is a hero, sure. He's great in an emergency because he reacts (just like Sawyer said) and takes action (even though his aptitude scores aren't great). But a leader he is not. Not a good one anyway. If Jack acts as a hero fine, but if he takes over as leader then things are just going to end in disaster. I don’t remember what post it was but we had a pretty good discussion a little while back about the difference between a leader and a hero. Jack is a hero, sure. He’s great in an emergency because he reacts (just like Sawyer said) and takes action (even though his aptitude scores aren’t great). But a leader he is not. Not a good one anyway. If Jack acts as a hero fine, but if he takes over as leader then things are just going to end in disaster.

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