Comments on: Benjamin Linus Is Good, Just Not Innocent

By: username

username — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:59:59 +0000

yes, ben has lost his innocents, so we get the feeling that his actions in the future are a result of this. they kinda spelled it out to us, well richard did.

(Report comment)

By: joshmohoboob

joshmohoboob — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:41:05 +0000

And remember this is a TV Show, where the concept of fate and ‘the end of the world’ exists. So you cannot compare this directly to your own morals and principles, I would never kill someone but then again I cannot see the future or receive instruction from a man who can. If I could kill Hitler, I would have - maybe Ben is killing off causalities which trigger worst future events - i.e the DI.

(Report comment)

By: joshmohoboob

joshmohoboob — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:38:00 +0000

Yes but he is not a bad man, because the Island is not done with him yet and he is not in control of himself quite yet. He has to contribute because it is temporarily within Ben’s nature and instincts. If you read my post you’d realise the element of Fate. Ben knew the people on that boat would die, he understands whatever he does, fate will always be the same. And these people were trying to find the Island and take ownership of it. He didn’t do it to make himself feel better, but to protect the Island. Ben has parallels with Hitler, yes I agree, but he is a good person at heart. Watch Man Behind A Curtain again and you will understand what I mean. We will see at the end of the series anyway.

(Report comment)

By: Benhamine

Benhamine — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:19:57 +0000

It is his real father. The reason that she said that was that his father told her to say that. She told Locke, “He said it’s the only way that you would give it to him.” Also, the only reason he conned Locke was because he knew that as his son he would be a donor match.

Now as for your theory, you say it yourself in the last line of your second paragraph, “…because you may aswell be good and innocent if fate needs no accomplice.” This is how we know that Ben is intrinsically a “bad man.” He may have good intentions but so did Hitler. It’s the moments where he let’s his emotions get to him that we see the ‘true’ Ben Linus. For example, when he kills Keamy. Locke asks him,”What have you done!? You’ve just killed all the people on that boat!” Ben’s only response is, “So?” He doesn’t even have remorse for what he has just done. I understand why he was angry, but a “good man” would not be able to kill all those people just to make himself feel better. It’s moments like these where we get to see Ben for what he really is, a monster.

I don’t believe Ben was always like this and in that you might have an argument that he is good somewhere, but I believe all people have the option of being good and it is the decisions we make in the hard times that define who we are.

-Benhamine

(Report comment)

By: giridharkezia

giridharkezia — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:43:40 +0000

Excellent theory, I also have always felt that Ben is a force of good. The part of your theory that really connects is the whole Ben losing his innocence is him understanding the inevitability of faith, that is pretty sweet.

Cheers.

(Report comment)

By: joshmohoboob

joshmohoboob — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:56:11 +0000

SORRY, I meant to say ‘NOT’ in control of humanity in the first line.

(Report comment)