Comments on: “…as if he was Moses”

By: LOSTism

LOSTism — Mon, 18 May 2009 00:31:00 +0000

the statue is not anubis, is sobek
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobek
(sobek have crocodile head, like the statue from lost)

By: Fusion49

Fusion49 — Sun, 17 May 2009 06:45:17 +0000

I just realized that there is another SIGNIFICANT scene that clues us in that Jacob is good other than the whole white/black garments and other obvious refernces. I dont think it has been mentioned that in the second scene, Jacob is shown trapping and eating fish. I think that is a substantial comparison to a Christ-like figure as it is known that Jesus was a Fisherman of Men. Also the Christian symbol is a fish. Also important this symbol first brought to mind in the fledgling Christian community the way Jesus shared a meal of fish with the disciples, on the shore of the Sea of Tiberius, in Galilee, after the resurrection (JN 21:11)

By: amarissimus

amarissimus — Sun, 17 May 2009 01:22:42 +0000

I’m not sure there is any other way to interpret the Jacob/Bob dynamic than as God/Satan (in an archetypal sense). The struggle (and cooperation) of light and dark, good and evil is the most pervasive theme in practically all theologies. One cannot exist without the other, and in the end they are really just two halves of a whole. Good and bad are relative terms, but when viewed as a whole there must be a Yin to every Yang, so to speak.

By: losts-columbo

losts-columbo — Sat, 16 May 2009 23:33:13 +0000

hi stone!

just as a little extra to add to this thread.

i remeber learning that in many aspects of egyptian folklure, and a vast majority of north african history, the colour black was always seen as the “good” colour.

if i remember correctly it was because the silt off the mountains that gathered on the crops would turn black and feed the crop, giving them a great harvest.

so in this sense, just to throw into the mix, that jacob is ther bad guy.

in my opinion,i cant think of a single reason that makes him good anyway!

By: katelinus

katelinus — Sat, 16 May 2009 23:16:57 +0000

If Jacob is “good” why did he have Nadia killed? Or provide the circumstances for her to be killed? That’s the main thing that confuses me about who is on what side although Rival seems to be obviously evil. But maybe not? …

I think maybe Jacob and Rival are reincarnations of past Biblical characters such as Cain/Abel, Jacob/Esau, etc.

Another thought I had about the opening scene of the last episode was, what if Jacob is trying to rewrite the creation story. In other words, the first people (Adam and Eve) failed and destroyed themselves and brought harm to the island. Jacob keeps bringing new people (descendants of Adam and Eve) to redeem mankind.

This could have been theorized before, not sure. But just a thought!

By: dabiatchishere

dabiatchishere — Sat, 16 May 2009 20:58:47 +0000

stone, it’s going to be a lot of fun theorizing on Jacob and his nemesis!

At least we will have something to hotly debate the merits of, until the next season!

Hope you’re right about Jacob!

By: LOSTism

LOSTism — Sat, 16 May 2009 20:24:46 +0000

What if is just a game between Jacob and his friend. They just play with people destinies acting like gods

By: racheljane

racheljane — Sat, 16 May 2009 20:06:51 +0000

The Moses/Egypt theory holds water – it’s definitely a good one. Especially if you’ll consider the opening scene in which they sit beneath the statue. And if anyone else studies Egyptology, they may notice that the statue is that of Anubis – the guardian of the underworld – who carries in his hand an ankh, the symbol for everlasting life.
Paired with the scene of Jacob’s ‘death’, the opening sequence no doubt solidifies the theme of good vs. evil.

By: stone

stone — Sat, 16 May 2009 19:11:24 +0000

Great comments!

@ Damon Cuse:
You are indeed right about that. I hadn’t linked Moses and Egypt yet, tho I doubt that will be of importance. Nicely found tho!

@ locked:
You are totally right about all the Black/White themes and stuff. But, it wasn’t until this thursday when I had watched the Jacob/Rival scene a few times that I’m starting to think that the Black/White theme is ultimately coming down on two persons. Jacob and Rival.

@ dabs:
I totally agree on that altho direct references to God & Satan are implied, we may indeed never hear those names be referred.
I also agree on that we don’t know which one of them represents good and which one evil, but I have the feeling Jacob ‘belongs to’ the good side.
Although, if I think about it, it seems just way too obvious that Jacob is good, with his white shirt etc.

By: dabiatchishere

dabiatchishere — Sat, 16 May 2009 17:48:35 +0000

Excellent comments, Damon Cuse & locked!

stone, I like what you have to say, and feel that we may have to reserve judgement on which of the two represent good or evil. At least IMO. I feel a very fine line, in the subtleties of good and evil are being played.

The obvious references to God & Satan are being implied, however we may never hear those names referenced.

In Stephen King’s book The Stand, (one awesome read), it was about the ultimate battle between good and evil.

The characters had relatively meaningless names, but were clearly indicative of God & Satan.

Great thoughts, and a nice theory!