You see, your points on destiny and free will, I believe, in the Lost world, holds a more important meaning than just good or evil, and doesnt even have to represent god or satan or religion vs science…not to say that it doesnt, it just doesnt have to.

It seems that some of the discussions/rants/debates of the last year consisted of MANY topics revolving around the idea of changing or not changing things that have occured in the past…

When in turn, it should have been about SHOULD one change the past if able to?
It went from being ridiculous to being “you and Kate wont know each other” or “if I never met you, I wouldnt have to lose you”.
Almost cowardice acts by people who cannot accept what they did, or choices that they have made. Not to say that Jack did or didnt, or wont or will, but should he?
But these two men, Jacob and whoever the other man turns out to be, know something that it seems no one else could possibly know or understand.
When they speak of “the end”, and “everything before”, its as if they are in more of a personal battle with each other, then the fate of mankind to these two “god-like” men who seem to posses capabilities that we wouldnt dream to imagine someone possessing… like being able to look like someone else, and know things that they know, or knowing things are going to happen, one way or another, and existing in a form that you are able to not only be there when they do for support and guigance, ala John falling out of the window. Or stepping in to say simple words, to ensure that some one DOES, or another DOES NOT get hit and kiled by a car.

A think although Jacob gives off a feel that he is doing the “good” thing by directing and guiding some to destinations they are “supposed” to go to, the other man seems as if he feels that if one cannot reach their “destiny” with free will…then it is simply not their destiny. Upon seeing what is most likely BlackRock, says something to the tune of “You brought them here…” to Jacob.
And the idea that Jack Shepard is willing to risk the lives of the Losties on the island to save all the people that died and suffered on the there over the years and himself pain and death seems greedy and small I guess you could say…

What if what Jacob is doing is meant to save more on the humanity of the world. It is possible that many are correct in assuming that the island is the only thing left on earth. With the time traveling capabilities that exist, I believe that Jacob is possibly disturbing the natural order of things to help hinder or halt the resulting chaos that would occur in the process of doing so, while the other man seems to not want these things, but to let “whatever happened, happen”.

I believe these things as much as I believe that these two men will be the most important characters in the long run of Lost..,which is about 50/50 right now.
I don’t believe that we have seen the last of Jacob, but I also dont believe that we have seen the last of John Locke either.
I don’t mean the John that is being possessed or simulated by Jacob’s opposite, I mean the John Locke that was willing to give his life for the island out of faith, attempted out of dispair, and was taken by Ben and given on a platter to the island/ Jacob’s friend out of hatred and jealousy….and is in the box that the Ajira team carries.
I find it very difficult to grasp the idea that that John Locke is out of our lives.
I have stood like what some view as a sucker by John for 5 seasons now, and am going to roll the dice of destiny, and stand there until the series finale concludes.

Hope I helped a little, and am going to try to push a few more ideas out later in the week.
Again great theory and thought in general going back to some initial theory roots.

perhaps the teams at the end can play in a world cup final? i think sawyer would make a great defender! hohoho!

i dont agree with all the metaphors for good and evil, like the white and black, thats a very western thing, so i like yor take on this very much!

i would ponder that if one is destiny and one is free will, then if expanded upon, which out of jacob and the other guy, has the best intentions, but well have to wait till season6 for that i guess!

great post!

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Two ideologies that are different in nature and opposed to one another!

Many people do not feel comfortable in subscribing to the notion, that God grants us free will, but rather believe that we are fated to lives we have no say in and no control over. That our lives are pre-destined, or already scripted, and that we blindly follow orders without question, or independent thought.

The very notion of free will, can be a frightening thought, as it places responsibility on the individual for their ‘lot in life’.

A great example of this is with John Locke. He was told by Richard that he had to die, and he never even questioned it. He blindly accepted that it was his destiny. He never gave any thought to how he might have succeeded in reuniting the ’06′, with less drastic measures.

John Locke did not exercise his own ‘free will’, and therefore he died. He thought it was his destiny.

Now we see Jack, who has done a full 360 degree turn, be the man who is exercising his own ‘free will’, by believing he can make a difference, that he can change or effect an outcome. Whether Jack’s mission succeeds or fails, is unimportant. Whatever happens, it was not his destiny, but his own free will that he applied.

With black and white, there are ‘the grey areas’. I suspect there will be some surprises in store, to see who falls on either side of the equation, in the long run!

The very nature and essence of Jacob and his Nemesis are indicative of what is to come.

I totally agree with AES. This certainly is one of the best theories that has been posted since the finale! Good work!

Great work!

Your right it seems kind of boring if the others switch sides and we have everyone vs MIB, so maybe they won’t. Maybe they will continue following MIB and we have our sides. It would be ironic and totally Lost-like to end up having Ben and Widmore end up on the same side of the fight.

Also Eloise is pretty obviously a follower of Destiny, IMO, so I could not see her on the free will side.

TEAM DESTINY: Jacob, Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Sun, Jin, Hurley, Juliette, Illana, Bram, Desmond

TEAM FREE-WILL: MIB-As Locke, Ben, Eloise, Charles, and currently the Others including Richard, I think once the Others realize who New Locke is, they will switch teams, and that will be that.

I’d like to add that I do not think that the two sides we will see in the sixth season will be one that we all like and one that we all don’t, hence the intermixing. I think the writers are smart and want the viewer to have to make a choice of their own and I think the only way to do that is by putting compelling characters on both sides of this war.