Comments on: good vs evil & eko

By: Al

Al — Tue, 19 May 2009 20:55:13 +0000

Thank you very much, it was. So what’s the theory about this?

By: dabiatchishere

dabiatchishere — Tue, 19 May 2009 19:36:46 +0000

Al, the Circle of Ash, is symbolic of the Circle of Protection!

A Circle of Protection may serve to either keep something inside of the Circle protected, (by not allowing anything evil or untoward to enter), or it may serve as a way of harnessing, (trapping), the evil inside of the Circle.

If you Google Circle of Protection there is some good information!

Hope that is helpful!

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By: Al

Al — Tue, 19 May 2009 19:10:06 +0000

Ben is the one most able/willing to change? Ben was nearly going to cry for obeying Locke, that was not willing to change. He got a threat that’s why he decided to obey. And because he knows about smokey he didn’t want to take his chances, simple as that. Ben is the worst kind. He tried several times to kill Locke because he was afraid of getting his leadership, then when he saw Locke alive he pissed himself.
No, I don’t think Ben was Jacob’s doing.
It could also be the case that smoke monster works for both men, each one manipulates it for their own purposes. Or both of them can take forms.
Can anyone please tell me what was the ash outside the cabin when Ilana was searching for Jacob?

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By: beccaann

beccaann — Tue, 19 May 2009 18:01:09 +0000

in the FORM of Yemi…

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By: beccaann

beccaann — Tue, 19 May 2009 18:00:16 +0000

One big difference between Ben and Eko: When Eko was confronted be the smoke monster (in the for of Yemi) he stated his lack of regret for what he had done (ie killing a man) and that he would not take it back. Then he was killed. Ben expressed remorse and regret, and was allowed to live.

To me, this seems to indicate that smokey sees Ben as the one most able/willing to change…and as this seems to be the viewpoint of Jacob, not rival, I don’t think smokey and rival are one and the same.

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By: Sawyer Rocks

Sawyer Rocks — Tue, 19 May 2009 12:32:04 +0000

Well, we all believe the smoke monster(jacobs rival) is trying to prove mankind is evil, corrupt etc… whereas jacob is trying to show mankind is inherently good, and also can become better, that they can be saved. The Black smoke maybe left Eko to look for the heroine possibly because he thought Eko would fall back into his old ways with drugs and violence etc.. just an idea..

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By: bjb

bjb — Tue, 19 May 2009 07:31:00 +0000

Although the smoke monster let Eko off when he was looking for the heroin plane with Charlie?

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By: CJT Faraday

CJT Faraday — Tue, 19 May 2009 04:22:23 +0000

I agree with you, when smokie let ben live, then ghost alex showed up afterwards telling ben to do what locke asked him to do, then locke told ben to kill jacob, then it wasnt really locke, it has to be some sort of evil. And yes, eko does rock.

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By: amarissimus

amarissimus — Tue, 19 May 2009 00:55:45 +0000

I think it’s important not to look at the two sides as good and evil, but rather more of a Yin and Yang. Morality is a subjective proposition grounded in theology. While the show does emphasize the difference between “good” and “bad” behavior and how the “rivals” interpret it, we really haven’t had any reason to suggest that both aren’t just two equal parts of a whole.
Eko was a fun character; I think they had more planned for him but the actor decided to leave the show.
As for Smokey’s behavior, seems that every time he has influenced someone it has been to reinforce the naughty thoughts bouncing through their heads in order to prove that man is ultimately corrupt.

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