Comments on: John Locke http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/john-locke/ A place to write and read Lost Theories Thu, 17 May 2012 19:43:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: dabiatchishere http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/john-locke/#comment-14612 dabiatchishere Tue, 12 May 2009 04:02:30 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=3941#comment-14612 willis, Wikipedia has some pretty good information on Bentham. He invented the Panopticon. Quite reminiscent of the Dharma Stations. willis, Wikipedia has some pretty good information on Bentham. He invented the Panopticon. Quite reminiscent of the Dharma Stations.

]]> By: willis http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/john-locke/#comment-14611 willis Tue, 12 May 2009 04:00:23 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=3941#comment-14611 Thanks, Dabs. If I had a Bentham book laying around, I'm sure I would have read it, too. I appreciate all of the positive feedback Thanks, Dabs. If I had a Bentham book laying around, I’m sure I would have read it, too.
I appreciate all of the positive feedback

]]> By: dabiatchishere http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/john-locke/#comment-14532 dabiatchishere Mon, 11 May 2009 18:37:17 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=3941#comment-14532 willis, what a great amount of research and detail, you placed into your theory! John Locke shares many ideals with the philosopher who bears his namesake. Having said that, we cannot forget about Jeremy Bentham and his ideals, and how John may have incorporated some of those ideals, into how he may want to rule! If you haven't read up on Bentham already, give him a read. I think you will enjoy it! Nice work! willis, what a great amount of research and detail, you placed into your theory!

John Locke shares many ideals with the philosopher who bears his namesake. Having said that, we cannot forget about Jeremy Bentham and his ideals, and how John may have incorporated some of those ideals, into how he may want to rule!

If you haven’t read up on Bentham already, give him a read. I think you will enjoy it!

Nice work!

]]> By: Dharma Dancer http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/john-locke/#comment-14420 Dharma Dancer Mon, 11 May 2009 00:56:53 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=3941#comment-14420 That is interesting, pjkrunkt. When I rewatch all the episodes I will make sure to watch that one closely. That is interesting, pjkrunkt. When I rewatch all the episodes I will make sure to watch that one closely.

]]> By: 50th state http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/john-locke/#comment-14341 50th state Sun, 10 May 2009 22:55:07 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=3941#comment-14341 Take the scene in the orchid when ben killed keamy.locke would have got slaughtered if it was'nt for ben.it's all well and good locke being philosophical but that aint gonna stop anyone from killing him.Time after time john locke makes mistake after mistake.he gave his kidney to mr cooper and then because of what his mother said to him he instantly decided he'd just had his kidney stolen,if he had ignored his mum he would have gone round to see cooper and all would have been fine.He appears to be quite gullible with everything he hears.What i don't understand about john is why he thought he could go on a walkabout in the first place,seeing as he could'nt walk,and his surprise when he was told he could'nt go.I really don't think that names are relavent in this story.Some of the things he's done since he's been on that island are unexplainable.like killing naomi.if locke did'nt kill her then the freighte people would'nt be on the war path to start with.keamy would still be after ben but nothing else would have mattered.when ben said everyone would have been killed simply was'nt true,he just wanted some human sheilds.locke is a product of his own experiences which have made him bitter and twisted.as far as john is concerned he's on his walk about tour.he's got his ability to walk back and now he's like an excited little kid.John locke has acheived absolutely nothing since he's been on that island.How can anyone say that they actually know what there doing, just because they are relying on fate.I'm going to go out on a limb and say that before this story is through these main characters namely ben,locke,sawyer and kate will meet there end.They've all relied on someone else to stay alive at least once.left to their own devices they would'nt last a second.they just aint got what it takes. Take the scene in the orchid when ben killed keamy.locke would have got slaughtered if it was’nt for ben.it’s all well and good locke being philosophical but that aint gonna stop anyone from killing him.Time after time john locke makes mistake after mistake.he gave his kidney to mr cooper and then because of what his mother said to him he instantly decided he’d just had his kidney stolen,if he had ignored his mum he would have gone round to see cooper and all would have been fine.He appears to be quite gullible with everything he hears.What i don’t understand about john is why he thought he could go on a walkabout in the first place,seeing as he could’nt walk,and his surprise when he was told he could’nt go.I really don’t think that names are relavent in this story.Some of the things he’s done since he’s been on that island are unexplainable.like killing naomi.if locke did’nt kill her then the freighte people would’nt be on the war path to start with.keamy would still be after ben but nothing else would have mattered.when ben said everyone would have been killed simply was’nt true,he just wanted some human sheilds.locke is a product of his own experiences which have made him bitter and twisted.as far as john is concerned he’s on his walk about tour.he’s got his ability to walk back and now he’s like an excited little kid.John locke has acheived absolutely nothing since he’s been on that island.How can anyone say that they actually know what there doing, just because they are relying on fate.I’m going to go out on a limb and say that before this story is through these main characters namely ben,locke,sawyer and kate will meet there end.They’ve all relied on someone else to stay alive at least once.left to their own devices they would’nt last a second.they just aint got what it takes.

]]> By: pjdkrunkt http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/john-locke/#comment-14332 pjdkrunkt Sun, 10 May 2009 22:20:55 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=3941#comment-14332 Interesting DharmaDancer... Tabula Rasa (blank slate) is an episode. Interesting DharmaDancer… Tabula Rasa (blank slate) is an episode.

]]> By: Thomas5 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/john-locke/#comment-14325 Thomas5 Sun, 10 May 2009 20:27:30 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=3941#comment-14325 i agree with dizzee, the levels of commitment to research is astounding! i agree with dizzee, the levels of commitment to research is astounding!

]]> By: willis http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/john-locke/#comment-14324 willis Sun, 10 May 2009 19:36:51 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=3941#comment-14324 D D. Locke discusses man in the absence of society and government and referrs to it as the 'State of Nature.' He says we are not bourne with any innate nature, only the principals of appetite and aversion. Goes on to say that through these actions we develop an additonal moral code that we should not harm another in our pursuit of appetites/aversions, which is reinforced by other men. If appetites/aversions are not checked by others they will override our moral code. In addition, men are 'rational.' Meaning we can make decisions based on logic and past experiences. good stuff! D D. Locke discusses man in the absence of society and government and referrs to it as the ‘State of Nature.’
He says we are not bourne with any innate nature, only the principals of appetite and aversion. Goes on to say that through these actions we develop an additonal moral code that we should not harm another in our pursuit of appetites/aversions, which is reinforced by other men. If appetites/aversions are not checked by others they will override our moral code.
In addition, men are ‘rational.’ Meaning we can make decisions based on logic and past experiences.
good stuff!

]]> By: willis http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/john-locke/#comment-14323 willis Sun, 10 May 2009 19:28:49 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=3941#comment-14323 It appears Locke wants everyone to share in the leadership, and advocates 'limited government.' He offered to take everyone to see Jacob. Seems he wants to oust the former leaders, too. He also advocates protecting property at any cost. He even tried to kill Naomi to protect the island. This is a far cry from his hippy days at the commune! Locke is checking the former leadership, too. Seems he thinks they exerted more authority then was bestowed upon them. Locke believes all people are naturally equal. He treats everyone with respect unless they are not respectable. Locke believes there is a lot to learn from misery, and understands actions are dictated by seeking peace and avoiding pain. He could have saved himself a lot of pain, but said he needed to experience that pain. These are a few paralells I found It appears Locke wants everyone to share in the leadership, and advocates ‘limited government.’ He offered to take everyone to see Jacob. Seems he wants to oust the former leaders, too.
He also advocates protecting property at any cost. He even tried to kill Naomi to protect the island. This is a far cry from his hippy days at the commune!
Locke is checking the former leadership, too. Seems he thinks they exerted more authority then was bestowed upon them.
Locke believes all people are naturally equal. He treats everyone with respect unless they are not respectable.
Locke believes there is a lot to learn from misery, and understands actions are dictated by seeking peace and avoiding pain. He could have saved himself a lot of pain, but said he needed to experience that pain.
These are a few paralells I found

]]> By: giridharkezia http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/john-locke/#comment-14319 giridharkezia Sun, 10 May 2009 14:48:54 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=3941#comment-14319 Awesome analysis of Locke, another interesting parallel between the two Lockes exists in that the real Locke emphasized stream of consciousness to address the question "when am I?". Something John Locke on lost is directly quoted as asking. Awesome analysis of Locke, another interesting parallel between the two Lockes exists in that the real Locke emphasized stream of consciousness to address the question “when am I?”. Something John Locke on lost is directly quoted as asking.

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