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		<title>By: lostie411</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/richards-state-mentdabs/#comment-17031</link>
		<dc:creator>lostie411</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, sorry to put this in a comment space for your theory but you said you wanted to ask me some questions last night right after i logged off. sorry. what did you want to ask me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, sorry to put this in a comment space for your theory but you said you wanted to ask me some questions last night right after i logged off. sorry. what did you want to ask me?</p>
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		<title>By: kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/richards-state-mentdabs/#comment-16743</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 22:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to re-watch Cabin Fever because a few things were nagging at me in all this talk about Richard, the Cabin, and Smokey and ultimately, the battle between the two Guys and the apparent pawn, Locke.  

Cabin Fever is where Richard visits Locke off island while newborn Locke is still in the hospital and when Kid Locke is tested by Richard with the objects.

But it&#039;s also where we see &#039;Horace&#039; direct Locke to find the cabin: 

Horace: &quot;You&#039;ve got to find me John. You&#039;ve got to find me, and when you do, you&#039;ll find him.&quot;

John: &quot;Who?&quot;

Horace: &quot;Jacob.&quot;

John: &quot;He&#039;s been waiting for a real long time, man.&quot;

Locke, Hurley and Ben were looking for the cabin, looking for Jacob to try to figure out what to do to save the island from the freighter people. 

Ben&#039;s response to a newly inspired Locke after Locke returned from his &#039;encounter&#039; with Horace: &quot;I used to have dreams.&quot;

Doesn&#039;t this conversation now seem like it was The Other Guy using Horace to direct Locke to find him in order to keep his plan in place of using Locke to ultimately get to Jacob, all the while, it first appears that it is for the benefit of Locke getting to Jacob?

I wonder how many other scenes like this are out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to re-watch Cabin Fever because a few things were nagging at me in all this talk about Richard, the Cabin, and Smokey and ultimately, the battle between the two Guys and the apparent pawn, Locke.  </p>
<p>Cabin Fever is where Richard visits Locke off island while newborn Locke is still in the hospital and when Kid Locke is tested by Richard with the objects.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s also where we see &#8216;Horace&#8217; direct Locke to find the cabin: </p>
<p>Horace: &#8220;You&#8217;ve got to find me John. You&#8217;ve got to find me, and when you do, you&#8217;ll find him.&#8221;</p>
<p>John: &#8220;Who?&#8221;</p>
<p>Horace: &#8220;Jacob.&#8221;</p>
<p>John: &#8220;He&#8217;s been waiting for a real long time, man.&#8221;</p>
<p>Locke, Hurley and Ben were looking for the cabin, looking for Jacob to try to figure out what to do to save the island from the freighter people. </p>
<p>Ben&#8217;s response to a newly inspired Locke after Locke returned from his &#8216;encounter&#8217; with Horace: &#8220;I used to have dreams.&#8221;</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t this conversation now seem like it was The Other Guy using Horace to direct Locke to find him in order to keep his plan in place of using Locke to ultimately get to Jacob, all the while, it first appears that it is for the benefit of Locke getting to Jacob?</p>
<p>I wonder how many other scenes like this are out there.</p>
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		<title>By: losts-columbo</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/richards-state-mentdabs/#comment-16684</link>
		<dc:creator>losts-columbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 23:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yoyo kimbo!

i know that what you thinkim saying is a bit &#039;diffrent&#039; shall we say.

but i have to say that waht ive been saying doesnt render jacobs freind out at all. weather or not hes an accesory or not i think he is important.

i know jacob mentioned the lophole to locke at the end and mentioned it to jacobs friend at the start. but i think if you lsten to jacobs tone of voice, he says it to locke as if, hes fascinated that locke found it, and he didnt let on as if he knew, if it is the imposter, that he knew it was him.

locke says to ben, &quot;why wouldnt you want to kill him&quot;

but why does locke want to kill jacob, whats his motive, and why ben? ben seemed easily manipulated becuase of his remorsefulness in the way hes led his life! locke i think.

i can see why you and the brow think that locke is a fake and is perhaps the imposter, but i dont think that people from the past taking over other peoples bodies is likely? (and i mean that in the broadest sense of the word, considering all the hypathetical things that go on in lost)

locke being from a diffrent time i dont think is too silly. i mean, locke out of everyone is the exception in the show. he was dead, and brought back tolife, due to the last plane journey.

and i rember reading how interested you were in the whole, why the shoes thing? which leads me to think that there is definently loose ends here, ie, christian shephard, but thats something i need to think about.

plus, when the last plane journey went ahead, we didnt see it crash, there was a flash, jack woke up in the jungle, with kate lyingon the rocks.
locke ended up with sun and the rest. their is an exception here. im not sure what. but im sure the answer lies in &quot;the missing locke scene&quot; as i like to see. following his trip with te compass to seeing himself with richard and ben. and i think locke might ave something to do with clearing the ash ring round jacobs hut. perhaps a way of showing were he was at certian times.

rambling now!

also, great post, very intriguing!

x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yoyo kimbo!</p>
<p>i know that what you thinkim saying is a bit &#8216;diffrent&#8217; shall we say.</p>
<p>but i have to say that waht ive been saying doesnt render jacobs freind out at all. weather or not hes an accesory or not i think he is important.</p>
<p>i know jacob mentioned the lophole to locke at the end and mentioned it to jacobs friend at the start. but i think if you lsten to jacobs tone of voice, he says it to locke as if, hes fascinated that locke found it, and he didnt let on as if he knew, if it is the imposter, that he knew it was him.</p>
<p>locke says to ben, &#8220;why wouldnt you want to kill him&#8221;</p>
<p>but why does locke want to kill jacob, whats his motive, and why ben? ben seemed easily manipulated becuase of his remorsefulness in the way hes led his life! locke i think.</p>
<p>i can see why you and the brow think that locke is a fake and is perhaps the imposter, but i dont think that people from the past taking over other peoples bodies is likely? (and i mean that in the broadest sense of the word, considering all the hypathetical things that go on in lost)</p>
<p>locke being from a diffrent time i dont think is too silly. i mean, locke out of everyone is the exception in the show. he was dead, and brought back tolife, due to the last plane journey.</p>
<p>and i rember reading how interested you were in the whole, why the shoes thing? which leads me to think that there is definently loose ends here, ie, christian shephard, but thats something i need to think about.</p>
<p>plus, when the last plane journey went ahead, we didnt see it crash, there was a flash, jack woke up in the jungle, with kate lyingon the rocks.<br />
locke ended up with sun and the rest. their is an exception here. im not sure what. but im sure the answer lies in &#8220;the missing locke scene&#8221; as i like to see. following his trip with te compass to seeing himself with richard and ben. and i think locke might ave something to do with clearing the ash ring round jacobs hut. perhaps a way of showing were he was at certian times.</p>
<p>rambling now!</p>
<p>also, great post, very intriguing!</p>
<p>x</p>
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		<title>By: highbrow</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/richards-state-mentdabs/#comment-16651</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s one debate we&#039;re thankfully at the end of.  All that&#039;s left now is to see the season six premier and we&#039;ll know if the past can or cannot be changed in Lost. 

Richard does seem to be on his own from time to time... or maybe most of the time... If he were in constant communication with Jacob on the issue of John Locke then I don&#039;t think he&#039;d have all those doubts he keeps showing us that he&#039;s having...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s one debate we&#8217;re thankfully at the end of.  All that&#8217;s left now is to see the season six premier and we&#8217;ll know if the past can or cannot be changed in Lost. </p>
<p>Richard does seem to be on his own from time to time&#8230; or maybe most of the time&#8230; If he were in constant communication with Jacob on the issue of John Locke then I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d have all those doubts he keeps showing us that he&#8217;s having&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/richards-state-mentdabs/#comment-16648</link>
		<dc:creator>kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, I know. It just sounded like the closest thing you&#039;ve said to &quot;if it happened differently...&quot; when usually you don&#039;t even consider it because it&#039;s not an option. We agree on this. And I see how you are using it as evidence that Jacob kept Richard going. 

But I wonder if Richard is sometimes left on his own. Especially if he is trapped in some service to Jacob...what else is he going to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, I know. It just sounded like the closest thing you&#8217;ve said to &#8220;if it happened differently&#8230;&#8221; when usually you don&#8217;t even consider it because it&#8217;s not an option. We agree on this. And I see how you are using it as evidence that Jacob kept Richard going. </p>
<p>But I wonder if Richard is sometimes left on his own. Especially if he is trapped in some service to Jacob&#8230;what else is he going to do?</p>
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		<title>By: highbrow</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/richards-state-mentdabs/#comment-16644</link>
		<dc:creator>highbrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no no no... I&#039;m saying that Jacob has been keeping Richard going... but if he hadn&#039;t been then Richard would have stopped a long time ago... before he even asked Jack about Locke...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no no no&#8230; I&#8217;m saying that Jacob has been keeping Richard going&#8230; but if he hadn&#8217;t been then Richard would have stopped a long time ago&#8230; before he even asked Jack about Locke&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/richards-state-mentdabs/#comment-16641</link>
		<dc:creator>kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OHmygosh. Did you just try to talk about something as if &quot;whatever happened&quot; should have &quot;happened&quot; differently? 

I thought you didn&#039;t speak destiny. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OHmygosh. Did you just try to talk about something as if &#8220;whatever happened&#8221; should have &#8220;happened&#8221; differently? </p>
<p>I thought you didn&#8217;t speak destiny. <img src='http://www.theoriesonlost.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: highbrow</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/richards-state-mentdabs/#comment-16638</link>
		<dc:creator>highbrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob must have kept Richard going on purpose... Richard had all the reasons in the world to stop checking in with Locke BEFORE Jack told him not to give up on him... so he wouldn&#039;t even have asked.  I think that if Richard had gone back after Jacob had visited Locke and tested him then he would have gotten the results he was looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob must have kept Richard going on purpose&#8230; Richard had all the reasons in the world to stop checking in with Locke BEFORE Jack told him not to give up on him&#8230; so he wouldn&#8217;t even have asked.  I think that if Richard had gone back after Jacob had visited Locke and tested him then he would have gotten the results he was looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/05/richards-state-mentdabs/#comment-16637</link>
		<dc:creator>kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that so many theories and question right now focus on who is good and who is bad. 

I think if we look into some of the past scenarios like this, in the light of knowing that we had these two entities &#039;playing&#039; out their schemes...it makes it really interesting because it looks like in this situation we should know that Locke 

a) wasn&#039;t a &#039;real&#039; leader of the Others according to the standards set in place before him. So it was either &#039;allowed&#039; to be the &#039;wrong&#039; choice, or it was the &#039;right&#039; choice because it ultimately created the &#039;loophole&#039; that The Other Guy was seeking, or a mixture of both. 

b) there was interference that kept him on that path. The influence could be perceived to be Locke on his own, Locke as prompted by The Other Guy, or Locke indirectly prompted by Jacob since Jacob had a hand in bringing Locke and Jack together via 815 and this whole thing taking place. Or a mixture of all. 

Doesn&#039;t it seem like everything is coming down to both &#039;sides&#039; affecting everything? 

So then it goes back to Richard&#039;s role. Is Richard only serving Jacob and only aware of Jacob? Because in a way, if Richard was only serving Jacob, then it would seem that The Other Guy should have a Richard-ish type counterpart. 

Wow. Look what a good night sleep can do. What a tangled mess of ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that so many theories and question right now focus on who is good and who is bad. </p>
<p>I think if we look into some of the past scenarios like this, in the light of knowing that we had these two entities &#8216;playing&#8217; out their schemes&#8230;it makes it really interesting because it looks like in this situation we should know that Locke </p>
<p>a) wasn&#8217;t a &#8216;real&#8217; leader of the Others according to the standards set in place before him. So it was either &#8216;allowed&#8217; to be the &#8216;wrong&#8217; choice, or it was the &#8216;right&#8217; choice because it ultimately created the &#8216;loophole&#8217; that The Other Guy was seeking, or a mixture of both. </p>
<p>b) there was interference that kept him on that path. The influence could be perceived to be Locke on his own, Locke as prompted by The Other Guy, or Locke indirectly prompted by Jacob since Jacob had a hand in bringing Locke and Jack together via 815 and this whole thing taking place. Or a mixture of all. </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t it seem like everything is coming down to both &#8216;sides&#8217; affecting everything? </p>
<p>So then it goes back to Richard&#8217;s role. Is Richard only serving Jacob and only aware of Jacob? Because in a way, if Richard was only serving Jacob, then it would seem that The Other Guy should have a Richard-ish type counterpart. </p>
<p>Wow. Look what a good night sleep can do. What a tangled mess of ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: kimberly</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But if you think about it...Jack actually kept Richard going. He said he visited him three times...so that &#039;test&#039; encounter showed him not to be ready. The next encounter - the high school one, most likely - should have been right around the time of Jack saying that to Richard. But before Jack said that to Richard, three years to be exact, Richard had the encounter with Sawyer...that probably lent some credence to this unique group of people, which included Locke. 

So, in a way, Jacob helped orchestrate keeping Richard going, indirectly at the very least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if you think about it&#8230;Jack actually kept Richard going. He said he visited him three times&#8230;so that &#8216;test&#8217; encounter showed him not to be ready. The next encounter &#8211; the high school one, most likely &#8211; should have been right around the time of Jack saying that to Richard. But before Jack said that to Richard, three years to be exact, Richard had the encounter with Sawyer&#8230;that probably lent some credence to this unique group of people, which included Locke. </p>
<p>So, in a way, Jacob helped orchestrate keeping Richard going, indirectly at the very least.</p>
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