Comments on: Trying to put it all together – Jacob

By: NluvwithLOST

NluvwithLOST — Sun, 24 May 2009 21:07:18 +0000

I agree with much of your theory and I really like the part about them needing each other to maintain some sort of balance in the world. I also find it interesting that the man in the black couldnt kill Jacob himself (why not and how come he didnt try to kill Jacob earlier what was so special about Ben?) but had to do it through the means of Ben which was his loop hole. Im hoping in season 6 they actually show us the relationship that the man in black and Jacob actually had.

By: Chris63084

Chris63084 — Sun, 24 May 2009 10:37:07 +0000

I think it was Jacob, as it seems that the other man wants no one on the island. Also, the line about it “always being the same”(when they are watching presumably the black rock sailing in.) can be taken as a comment about how people always end up destroying and killing, OR it could be a comment on an ongoing timeloop that they are both working to change, in which the same thing always happens. This second interpretation sounds more likely when you take Jacob’s response: “It only happens ONCE, everything before is just progress.” He seems to be trying new things to change some outcome, and the other man disagrees with this interference from the outside.
The man in black strikes me as someone who’s so against them even being there, that all he wants to do is get rid of them. But in order to do that he needs go get rid of Jacob first. So, he manipulates them to do that, and then I think his next step would be to dispose of them one way or another.

By: maureensd

maureensd — Sat, 23 May 2009 08:44:37 +0000

You have a lot of good ideas, and I agree with you on most of them.

The one question I have is this:
Who originally wanted the Losties on the island? During the season finale when Jacob told the man in black “guess you found your loophole” my first instinct was to think that the man in black wanted the people on the island so he could manipulate them to help him fight Jacob. Really my main question is this: Who do you think the first person to bring the Losties to the island was, and what was their motivation for doing so?

By: Chris63084

Chris63084 — Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:00 +0000

Thanks for your input.
However, it would appear that bringing everyone back was Jacob’s doing, if so, then perhaps he knew this was going to happen, and is thus trying to undo everything that has happened with that explosion. If so, then Jacob will never have been killed. Who knows if even CAN be killed really…he doesn’t seem to be a natural human being.
Or maybe the explosion is what caused this whole chain of events in the first place, thus the time loop. I guess we’ll have to see. Its a same there aren’t more shows like this.

By: dabiatchishere

dabiatchishere — Fri, 22 May 2009 16:04:58 +0000

PS: Good thoughts!

By: dabiatchishere

dabiatchishere — Fri, 22 May 2009 16:03:15 +0000

Chris63084, I am on board with Jacob and his Nemesis having opposing viewpoints.

I believe in inherent good and inherent evil. Having said that, I think most human beings have a bit of both that co-exist, with one side being the more prevalent. In most cases, goodness always seems to prevail.

Not fully knowing the intent of Jacob and his Nemesis, makes it difficult to determine, at this juncture, which is more prevalent in each of them.

I like what you have to say, about them needing each other to maintain ‘balance’.

I don’t think we should make the assumption that because the Nemesis has killed Jacob, that this means it’s the end for what he represents.

If what you’re saying is true, about them needing one another to maintain the equilibrium, than I think we can expect to see somebody else step into that role!

The balance must be maintained!