“What about Me?”…”What about You?”— Jacob, MIB, Ben, Christian, and John Locke
“What about me?”
“What about you?”
A great scene, that in my mind carries a different meaning than many.
The idea that Jacob’s response was belittling Ben…egging him on almost, seems to be popular thought right now.
I too thought the same in terms of Ben’s line to Jacob…at first.
But as I watched the scene again, it seems that it is not Jacob that provokes Ben.
He gives him the opportunity…or better yet, the choice to walk away, and Ben stands his ground, allowing the phrases above to play out.
I think about the way Jacob reacts/responds to Bens question, and I started to think differently.
I dont think he really provokes Ben with his answer, as much as questions it.
“What about me?”
“What about you?”
As if almost to say…
“I have given you life, allowed you to be reborn on MY island, and this is how you repay me?”
Let us not forget that Ben was taken to Richard for healing after his shooting by Sayid.
Richard isn’t pals with Jacobs opposition from the beginning of the episode, he is working for/with Jacob.
Who else would Richard take a dying young Ben to for saving, other than the man who gave him the gift of immortality?
I feel Jacob doesnt do things such as save peoples family, or not give someone cancer.
Ben chose to leave the island, much like Charles many times, judging from his stockpile of passports.
Ben chose to not save his daughter for the island or himself, whichever it truly was.
And Ben chose to stab Jacob, Anti-Locke forced no-ones hand.
With that understanding, Ben’s anger at Jacob was manipulated by Anti-Locke, given truthful scenarios, with a hint of spite thrown in.
Ben has had the choice of walking very different paths, shown by very different individuals, the one he chose should be blamed on nobody but himself, just as all the Losties need to realize.
It seems that the only one right now that does, is the only one lying dead, and being carried around in a large box by some Ajira passengers. And I feel that that mans role is far from over.
John was played by the man holding his form like a fiddle, and gave his life not for this man, but the people on the island.
He may not have killed himself, but I dont think that his death was only for the sake of the Anti-Locke.
It seems to make sense that this is the same man inhabiting Christians body.
Taking the form of a dead man in a casket arriving to the island.
We know Locke was a proxy for Jack’s father, that is why he had to make his return via casket, with the 0ceanic 5 (Minus Aaron, and in my own opinion, the other two Children who left the island, Suns unborn but living child, and Walt).
My issue with Christian being the same thing as Locke, an Anti-Christian (that just sounds wrong in some weird way) has a series of problems from my perspective…
-Where is Christians body?
-How does he appear off island, to Jack in the hospital, and to Michael on the boat?
(something Jacob seems capable of, off island travel)
-If the MIB was able to do this to begin with, why Locke? Why not manipulate Jack into killing Jacob?
I know of their father-son issues, but why not at least try before pulling this plan we see now?
I have a thought regarding the whole Cabin scene, but I am a little “lost” in the whole thing…maybe someone can help me figure a few ideas out.
Im going to throw some quick facts in almost comment form, and try to put some of the pieces together…
-John and Christian both arrived dead on the island.
-Johns physical form is taken over by MIB, and is believed to be him.
-Christian has been walking around on the island from the beginning of the show.
-Several people have seen him, incuding Jack on island and in the hospital, Micheal on the freighter, John in the well and cabin, and Claire, who is led to the cabin by Christian.
-Claire when seen by John in the cabin with Christian, seemed content on leaving Aaron behind.
-Someone in the Cabin asked John to Help them, and even Ben didnt hear it.
-Someone broke the circle of ash… possibly releasing or helping, whoever needed help.
-Christian and Anti-Locke were in two different places at once-Christian with Sun and Frank in some building/hub showing them the picture of the Losties in the 70s. -Anti-Locke was on the other island with Ben.
-Ben seems to recognize the name Christian when it is said by Sun in “Dead is Dead”.
-In “Cabin Fever”, Christian says he can speak on Jacobs behalf, ALMOST in a sarcastic manner. Meaning possibly two things…
1) He is Jacob, and it is humorus because he is “speaking on his own behalf, unknowing to Locke)
2) He is MIB, and its funny because he is most likely doing speaking exactly what Jacob wouldnt say.
(Of course I could throw crazy option number three out there, THAT CHRISTIAN IS CHRISTIAN…but I dont want do get too crazy, so lets stick with a possession of sort for now)
These facts bring me to a few very speculative ideas, and possibilities, but without the right connections to turn them into their own theories….
-Claire may, for whatever reason, be the one who broke the ash ring. Possibly if told to by her “father”,Christian, who claims to Locke that he cannot help him in the well. Which I took in the physical manner, and still do at this time. With Christians ability to appear anywhere, on or off island, it seems possible that he cannot have true contact with space, and lives outside of it and time at this point.
I would assume that if he is actually either of the two beings, that Jacob would be the more logical choice, although I believe he may actually be Christian Shepard.
-I am also considering the possibility, that if this indeed Jacob playing the role, that he may have actually spoken to Ben at some point, based on his reaction to Sun saying Christian’s name, furthering my argument above, as to why Jacob questions Bens loyalty, with his, “What about you?” comment. Because little to Bens knowledge, if he spoke to Christian, he may have spoke to Jacob, even if through Christian form…or by playing a game of telephone, by way of Christian giving Ben Jacobs word.
Then again, if it is the MIB working with or through Christian, Benjamin Linus has been manipulated and tricked worse than anybody else on the island, for over thirty years of mis life, and been even a bigger pawn than Locke in the previous season.
Running with the thought that the Christian Shepard we see walking around on the island is actually Christian Shepard, and NOT MIB or JACOB, I have to stop and think about the thought that John Locke is dead in a box.
If there is some chance, some possibility that Christian is actually alive in any way, I have to allow myself to believe that John Locke has the same ability. Especially considering that unless some time manipulation has been deviated behind the scenes, or MIB can be in two places at once, or Jacob is Chrisian Shepard (in which case we will not see him again either if Jacob is dead)…it seems correct to expect a TRUE resurrection of John Locke in the final season.
Well, thats all I have for now, although if we can get something going on this, I have a few more ideas to throw into the pot…but it needs stirred a little first. So again, please let me hear your thoughts.
I hope I have presented something a little different that can possibly bring about some new ideas, and possibly help me in the direction I am headed with everything.
Well, you heard my thoughts, and now know…
“What about me?”
So how do you feel on all of this…Please tell me…
“What about you?”