Comments on: The Compass

By: lakers2693

lakers2693 — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:54:44 +0000

The answer is Jacob. He made it happen. If he can make a man immortal, he can make a compass from nothing.

By: imisscharlie

imisscharlie — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:51:40 +0000

This was very well written, nicely done!

By: DHARMAdropout

DHARMAdropout — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:51:03 +0000

My point wasn’t focused on how many compasses we’ve seen, I was mainly trying to point out the implications of the specific compass that seems to be looping. If Locke acquired the compass by other means before Alpert gave it to him during the flashes, there would be two identical compasses. Theoretically that would be possible given what we know about time travel. After all, Miles existed as a child and adult during the same time period. But so far we haven’t seen two instances of the looping compass together.

One of my favorite philosophical techniques is microcosm/macrocosm. Take what we know to be true about a specific object and apply it to others, or to the entire universe. Or take what we know to be universally true and see what we can learn about other areas applying this knowledge.

If it is true that the compass can exist in a perpetual loop, with no apparent origins then the same can be true of characters, events and the entire history of the Island. If it is not true that the compass can exist as an enigma, then the looping “whatever happened, happened” theory would seem implausible as well. However, the empirical data suggests that the compass is in fact traveling through time in an infinite loop.

losts-columbo: even if Locke gave the compass to himself… where did he get it to give to himself? That would in essence add another ring to the loop, but the net outcome would not change.

By: losts-columbo

losts-columbo — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:40:03 +0000

dear dharma dropout

the key to solving the puzzle of the compass lies in where it goes and to whom.

in season five, we see the compass going to and fro, and we also see locke with richard and ben, looking at locke and richard in a difrernt time line.

the answer is thayt locke in fact gave it to himself at some time!

PICK THAT OUT!

By: elsewhere

elsewhere — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:28:13 +0000

Locke gives Sayid his compass in Season 1, episode 13, “Hearts and Minds.” But, then in Episode 19, “Deus Ex Machina”, when Locke and Boone are walking in the jungle on the way to find the beechcraft, Locke is shown looking at a compass.

So, either the compass that Locke gives to Sayid isn’t the only compass that he had in his posession. Or, someone gave Locke another compass at some point after he gives his away to Sayid and before he is shown to have another one just a few episodes later.

By: AngiveL

AngiveL — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:44:38 +0000

Well, one thing’s for sure – we will find out. Darlton commented the issue of the “Compass-loop” and states there is a specific purpose for the compass, we will find out how it all hangs together.

By: angelaparker45

angelaparker45 — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:35:22 +0000

you can actually see these 3 compasses at
http://www.lost.cubit.net…then select ‘essentials’ at the top of page; scroll down midway and select: 5×01 ‘Richard’s Compass’…this will give you a look at all three…you can also click on these and bring them up full screen size. I have checked on abc.com and they have now removed season 5 from the free episodes: probably to increase interest in the dvd sales for this winter.
Enjoy!

By: chaotixmm

chaotixmm — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:22:08 +0000

DHARMADropout, im really starting to like your theories. finally someone who is poking holes in the damn time travel thing.

angelaparker, which episode is it that Locke holds the compass with O? id like to see it again.

By: angelaparker45

angelaparker45 — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:15:16 +0000

my last count was actually 3 compasses on the island. #1:the one Locke gave to Sayid was the one Locke had packed for his walk-about in Australia. It was new and looked to be about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch in thickness; it had an arrow painted on the face instead of a letter “N” to indicate the direction of ‘north’. #2: Then there is the compass which Richard brings to young Locke-much older and slimmer. This compass has ‘N’,'S’, ‘E’, and ‘W’ indicated plainly on the face. #3 And then you have another compass shown in the palm of Locke’s hand-and there is no “W” on it for the direction of ‘west’…instead there is an ‘O’- “Ouest”…this particular spelling for the direction of ‘west’ is used in french, spanish, portugese, and italian.

By: BanLinus

BanLinus — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:30:26 +0000

These are the rules that Lost has decided to go by. To me, it is a paradox. Darlton refers to it as a mobiuos(spelling) loop. It applies to the compass as well as the time travelers.