Comments on: Yet Another Twist – Einstien, The Swan, And The Eldridge

By: Achalli

Achalli — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:01:13 +0000

JediRedeye, I’m glad you liked it. The Philadelphia Experiment has always fascinated me, and this latest book about it approaches it by presenting the possible scientific basis for it (that Einstein’s 1928 version of the Unified Field, although incomplete as a theory, was complete enough to be workable). It’s the torsion, the twisting, pleating effect on space-time and gravity, that makes this so useful to apply to the Island. The more I thought about it the more logical it seemed that the Experiment and the Island could have interacted at some point (perhaps the Island moved into the vicinity of the Eldridge during the Experiment).

By: JediRedeye

JediRedeye — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:28:14 +0000

Ach.. Great post! as Dabs said this has been a long running idea discussed before there was ample fact to back it up.
As Dabs said it was thought that they used the Unified Field Theory (I think it was XIV that I first read it from) You have put it together nicely with all the later season clues, The idea of the Army getting interested in the island and bringing Jughead to destroy it, Fantastic!
Very well put together.

By: elsewhere

elsewhere — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:23:56 +0000

Thanks Dab’s… I actually read that info on Lostpedia yesterday and it’s not really helping me with some of the problems that I see wth Chang… But, my anal retentiveness could be to blame.

By: dabiatchishere

dabiatchishere — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:47:03 +0000

elsewhere, I found the following information on Lostpedia regarding the Dharma videos that were shot using Dr. Chang in them.

I hope this is helpful.

Chang usually wore professional looking attire for his videos, often including a lab coat. The lab coat featured either a Flame or Swan logo.

“In the Pearl video Chang appeared to have use of his left arm; however, in the Swan and Flame films, he did not, probably due to his arm being trapped during The Incident. In the Barracks video, he did not move his left arm, suggesting it might have been a cosmetic device. In the Orchid Orientation video, he was using both his arms. Since the Barracks and The Flame were already constructed at the time of The Incident, and only The Orchid and The Swan appeared to be under construction, it is possible that videos for these were re-shot at some point afterward”.

By: elsewhere

elsewhere — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:21:50 +0000

Hello AES: The only video that I remember playing when the Losties arrive in 1977 was the video that Ben was watching when he arrives on the island 4 years earlier. We can also hear the same audio. I would also like to point out that when little Ben watches that video Chang is wearing a Swan lab coat. Which I didn

By: Achalli

Achalli — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:31:07 +0000

Risebysin, IMO I’m just not convinced that the incedent refered to in the orientation film is the same incedent seen in the season 5 finale. The oreintation film specificly states that the incedent that led to the sealing off of a portion of the Swan and implementaion of the 108 protocol was due to problems shortly after the Swan was operational, not before. My current view is that the incedent that is seen in the finale is one whose repercussions do not lead to the 108 protocol. So basically I believe there are two incedents.

As to the Philadelphia Experiment crossing paths with the Island that is purely conjecture on my part, it’s not really needed for this theory. The possible effects of the use of the 1928 version of Einstein’s theory is. The twisting and pleating effect of the theory may be the basis for the properties of the Island.

Regardless of what we ultimately learn in season 6 I’m just glad that this theory is sparking some good debate.

Thank you all for your comments.

By: dabiatchishere

dabiatchishere — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:31:33 +0000

AES, I am fairly certain you are correct about this.

I recall back in Season 3, that the writers did address this issue about Chang’s arm. Many of the videos were being shown, some with both of his arms, and with the prosthetic arm.

Chang was also giving different names, so the writers stated, (if memory serves me), that some of the videos were pre-recorded.

By: A.E.S.

A.E.S. — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:55:28 +0000

Elsewhere….thats a nice catch on the use of Changs arms in the video.

Thing is, that if you remember the arrival of the Losties to the island circa 1977, when they went in to recieve jobs…some of the videos were already playing if I remember correctly.

I think that maybe the videos were premade with intentions of the swan and other stations that were being created at the time.

I could be wrong, but I think I remember the videos playing in the background of one of the episodes.

Not really sure if this makes any sense towards the cause here, but interesting at the least if I am correct.

By: elsewhere

elsewhere — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:02:36 +0000

Achalli: You are really cranking out some good stuff lately! Keep up the good work!

In response to risebysin, there is something bugging me about Pierre Chang’s arm. Maybe you can shed some light on it for me. How is it possible that in the Pearl orientation video Pierre has the use of both of his arm’s and the inside of the Swan Station and two of its occupants can be seen on one of the monitors behind him? If he lost his arm before the Swan was built how is this possible? And how can the Swan video and the Pearl video both have copyright dates of 1980?

Could Pierre and the Pearl orientation video be proof that things are being changed and changed again until the desired outcome is achieved?

By: iamkevinjohnson

iamkevinjohnson — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:10:09 +0000

Achalli, well written and quite interesting.