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	<title>Comments on: Juliette is Schrodinger&#8217;s cat: a unified theory of parallel timelines, course correcting and Locke/FLocke</title>
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		<title>By: Jj23</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I would add, there&#039;s no such thing as a &#039;middle position&#039; for this magnet; it has to find a solution because the position in the middle is the less stable solution. It only ends once : once it has sticked to the left or right magnet, it will not ever switch to the other lane. So 1970-2004 is kind of the magnet oscillating between left and right before being definetly attracted by one or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I would add, there&#8217;s no such thing as a &#8216;middle position&#8217; for this magnet; it has to find a solution because the position in the middle is the less stable solution. It only ends once : once it has sticked to the left or right magnet, it will not ever switch to the other lane. So 1970-2004 is kind of the magnet oscillating between left and right before being definetly attracted by one or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Jj23</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jj23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>losts-columbo : you don&#039;t seem to be the only one to be lost, a lot of people have reported that, so here&#039;s an attempt at making it more pedagogical.

Imagine 3 magnets. 2 of them are fixated. The third magnet is attracted by the 2 others, and is left free to move right at the middle of the 2 magnets. Theoritically, if the magnet is placed exactly at the middle of the 2 other magnets, very very precisely at the middle, it would stay there forever. However in practice, it is impossible to reach that perfection : magnetism always tried to find the simplest solution. Only 1 micrometer of difference between the distance between one of the magnet and the freely moving magnet is enough to make it go to this magnet. So for the freely moving magnet, there are only 2 solutions : to be attracted by the one to the left, or by the one to the right. There is not other solution so there&#039;s not 15 possibilities : there&#039;s 2. and 1 micrometer, &#039;one little push&#039; will be enough to make it go to the right or to the left. And that&#039;s how things are done in Lost, little push after little push, people working to make the magnet go right or left.

Now imagine universe is the freely moving magnet. It always tries to find the simplest solution. Now Juliet being in the hole with a H bomb, this very problem has 2 solutions, 2 fixated magnets : the magnet to the left is bomb explodes, the magnet to the right is bomb does not explode. 

I believe what we&#039;ve been shown in 5 seasons is a subjective view of the magnet movements. We&#039;ve been shown the &#039;what if it sticks to the left magnet&#039;. I believe season 6 will show &#039;what if it sticks to the right magnet&#039;. And during all this time, whether you look at the left or right magnet, the alternative realities 1 or 2, what you see in those realities is people trying to influence the freely moving magnet (course of universe) to come in their direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>losts-columbo : you don&#8217;t seem to be the only one to be lost, a lot of people have reported that, so here&#8217;s an attempt at making it more pedagogical.</p>
<p>Imagine 3 magnets. 2 of them are fixated. The third magnet is attracted by the 2 others, and is left free to move right at the middle of the 2 magnets. Theoritically, if the magnet is placed exactly at the middle of the 2 other magnets, very very precisely at the middle, it would stay there forever. However in practice, it is impossible to reach that perfection : magnetism always tried to find the simplest solution. Only 1 micrometer of difference between the distance between one of the magnet and the freely moving magnet is enough to make it go to this magnet. So for the freely moving magnet, there are only 2 solutions : to be attracted by the one to the left, or by the one to the right. There is not other solution so there&#8217;s not 15 possibilities : there&#8217;s 2. and 1 micrometer, &#8216;one little push&#8217; will be enough to make it go to the right or to the left. And that&#8217;s how things are done in Lost, little push after little push, people working to make the magnet go right or left.</p>
<p>Now imagine universe is the freely moving magnet. It always tries to find the simplest solution. Now Juliet being in the hole with a H bomb, this very problem has 2 solutions, 2 fixated magnets : the magnet to the left is bomb explodes, the magnet to the right is bomb does not explode. </p>
<p>I believe what we&#8217;ve been shown in 5 seasons is a subjective view of the magnet movements. We&#8217;ve been shown the &#8216;what if it sticks to the left magnet&#8217;. I believe season 6 will show &#8216;what if it sticks to the right magnet&#8217;. And during all this time, whether you look at the left or right magnet, the alternative realities 1 or 2, what you see in those realities is people trying to influence the freely moving magnet (course of universe) to come in their direction.</p>
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		<title>By: losts-columbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>losts-columbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i realy enjoyed this theory, however, the more i read about this schrodingers cat theory, i still dont even get it, it doesnt make any sense to me.

but i will get it soon, then i can actualy have something of worth saying!

x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i realy enjoyed this theory, however, the more i read about this schrodingers cat theory, i still dont even get it, it doesnt make any sense to me.</p>
<p>but i will get it soon, then i can actualy have something of worth saying!</p>
<p>x</p>
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		<title>By: Achalli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achalli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jj23, I really like how you adopted Schrodinger&#039;s cat for your theory. Back in June I did a similar theory entitled &quot;Schrodinger&#039;s Island&quot; and it dealt with using Quantum Suicide to get around the Grandfather Paradox that seems to be set up with the bomb going off. I think your theory compliments what I did earlier rather well.

I do disagree with you about when the box is opened. And the root of the disagreement is simply because I view the whole Island as the box. IMO the box was opened much earlier when the Swan was destroyed and briefly revealed to the rest of the world. For me, this is the point in Lost when it all went south for everyone.

I really like the way you figured Dharma into everything and your idea about the war being over which timeline being the correct one is simply great.

Good job on a well thought out theory!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jj23, I really like how you adopted Schrodinger&#8217;s cat for your theory. Back in June I did a similar theory entitled &#8220;Schrodinger&#8217;s Island&#8221; and it dealt with using Quantum Suicide to get around the Grandfather Paradox that seems to be set up with the bomb going off. I think your theory compliments what I did earlier rather well.</p>
<p>I do disagree with you about when the box is opened. And the root of the disagreement is simply because I view the whole Island as the box. IMO the box was opened much earlier when the Swan was destroyed and briefly revealed to the rest of the world. For me, this is the point in Lost when it all went south for everyone.</p>
<p>I really like the way you figured Dharma into everything and your idea about the war being over which timeline being the correct one is simply great.</p>
<p>Good job on a well thought out theory!</p>
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		<title>By: ScrollLocke</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScrollLocke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this idea and that you were able to express it clearly.  Really cool stuff.

It&#039;s really interesting when you combine it with the popular belief that Jacob&#039;s touch means Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sawyer, Sun, Jin, and John will retain their memories/consciousness from one timeline - while physically existing in another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this idea and that you were able to express it clearly.  Really cool stuff.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really interesting when you combine it with the popular belief that Jacob&#8217;s touch means Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sawyer, Sun, Jin, and John will retain their memories/consciousness from one timeline &#8211; while physically existing in another.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your theory very much. I&#039;m just trying to put it together in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your theory very much. I&#8217;m just trying to put it together in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Yojimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yojimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo JJ!

I see what you mean in your comments on my theory - they both kinda fit together, huh?

Re the S.C. stuff - I think yes, it does apply to Juliet&#039;s plight AT THE MOMENT as she is secluded and we don&#039;t know the answer right now. But that&#039;s where the metaphor ends. That theory and any broader events of Lost are mutually exclusive by definition. 

That aside;
I think we&#039;re VERY much on the same page both in terms of what you are thinking of as evidence of &quot;unresolvedness&quot; of the timelines, as well as that the &quot;War&quot; has been/will be temporal as much physical. I just can&#039;t see them going all &quot;Band of Brothers&quot; with Lost. LOL. Not on any full scale that we picture a war anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo JJ!</p>
<p>I see what you mean in your comments on my theory &#8211; they both kinda fit together, huh?</p>
<p>Re the S.C. stuff &#8211; I think yes, it does apply to Juliet&#8217;s plight AT THE MOMENT as she is secluded and we don&#8217;t know the answer right now. But that&#8217;s where the metaphor ends. That theory and any broader events of Lost are mutually exclusive by definition. </p>
<p>That aside;<br />
I think we&#8217;re VERY much on the same page both in terms of what you are thinking of as evidence of &#8220;unresolvedness&#8221; of the timelines, as well as that the &#8220;War&#8221; has been/will be temporal as much physical. I just can&#8217;t see them going all &#8220;Band of Brothers&#8221; with Lost. LOL. Not on any full scale that we picture a war anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: dabiatchishere</title>
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		<dc:creator>dabiatchishere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jj23, Firstly, please call me dabs.  Thanks for providing the insight on &#039;the observer&#039; aspects.  It is definitely worth considering as you have outlined.

Once again, this was an excellent theory, and I can&#039;t tell you how much I love that you have provided insight into the reason each side is warring over!

Top Notch theory!  
5 Stars!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jj23, Firstly, please call me dabs.  Thanks for providing the insight on &#8216;the observer&#8217; aspects.  It is definitely worth considering as you have outlined.</p>
<p>Once again, this was an excellent theory, and I can&#8217;t tell you how much I love that you have provided insight into the reason each side is warring over!</p>
<p>Top Notch theory!<br />
5 Stars!</p>
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		<title>By: Jj23</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jj23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Roland

So yes I forgot to mention : we do expect the Flight 815 old shelter to be on the beach because the quantum uncertainity between the 2 timelines has not been resolved yet. It might very well be resolved when living John Locke meets his own body (&quot;they&#039;re coming&quot;), he seemed gueninely afraid when Jacob said that. Or living John Locke might just escape in some way and the 2 timelines would not be resolved yet. It is my impression that the conflict between the 2 timelines will not be resolved because when asked about why they bring John Locke&#039;s body to the statue, Illana&#039;s group does not say : to eliminate the ennemy. They say : &quot;so they know who they&#039;re up against&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roland</p>
<p>So yes I forgot to mention : we do expect the Flight 815 old shelter to be on the beach because the quantum uncertainity between the 2 timelines has not been resolved yet. It might very well be resolved when living John Locke meets his own body (&#8220;they&#8217;re coming&#8221;), he seemed gueninely afraid when Jacob said that. Or living John Locke might just escape in some way and the 2 timelines would not be resolved yet. It is my impression that the conflict between the 2 timelines will not be resolved because when asked about why they bring John Locke&#8217;s body to the statue, Illana&#8217;s group does not say : to eliminate the ennemy. They say : &#8220;so they know who they&#8217;re up against&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jj23</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jj23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dabiatchishere

Actually, in the original theory I wrote, I made a whole paragraph explaining why I was opposing to some aspects of the Schrodinger cat&#039;s theory that other presented, but I deleted this paragraph because I wanted to concentrate on proving my own point instead of bashing against other people. However here&#039;s my position, simply : I never had anything against the Schrodinger&#039;s cat theory, it&#039;s just that I think every time it was brought here, the focus on the observer has been too big, as if the observer would actually cause the events, which I think is not even the case in the original theory. So I have nothing against the idea of 2 parrallel universe, what I&#039;m opposed to is to put too much focus on some kind of &#039;observer&#039; that would cause the events by opening the box.

@Roland

In the context of my theory, MIB and Jacob would, the war between the 2, and the fact that MIB needs to find a loophole, all of this, will be caused by events occuring AFTER the end of Season 5 (after present day). Altough I do not have a precise idea on what these events could be, basically it will be the 2 timelines leading in 2 interest groups and eventually 2 persons : MIB and Jacob. Both with their own interests, both struggling to find a way to make their timeline &quot;win&quot;. At some point they will be sent to the past and that will result in the big 1800-2007 timeloop that Lost is. To me MIB is a pretty normal human being, no superpower.

&quot;And when Ben, Richard, Sun etc. are on their walk with Locke/Flocke to go visit Jacob they stop at Flight 815s old shelter on the beach from when they originally crashed. Wouldnâ€™t that not exist in the new timeline?&quot;

My point is that what we have seen at the end of Season 5 is the collision between 2 timelines, kind of the &quot;opening of the box&quot;. Ben Richard Sun walking with Flocke to kill Jacob is MIB&#039;s side fighting for timeline 2. Illanna coming with the dead body of John Locke is fighting for timeline 1.


@All of you

Also I would like to add something, this theory would explain basically every appearance of dead persons in Lost. The moments where dead people talk to living people would actually be small-scale collisions between the 2 timelines where the person is dead in 1 timeline but alive in the other one. The island would be a privileged location to make the link between the 2 timelines. Except for Hugo who sees dead people outside the island, but Jacob says he&#039;s &quot;gifted&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dabiatchishere</p>
<p>Actually, in the original theory I wrote, I made a whole paragraph explaining why I was opposing to some aspects of the Schrodinger cat&#8217;s theory that other presented, but I deleted this paragraph because I wanted to concentrate on proving my own point instead of bashing against other people. However here&#8217;s my position, simply : I never had anything against the Schrodinger&#8217;s cat theory, it&#8217;s just that I think every time it was brought here, the focus on the observer has been too big, as if the observer would actually cause the events, which I think is not even the case in the original theory. So I have nothing against the idea of 2 parrallel universe, what I&#8217;m opposed to is to put too much focus on some kind of &#8216;observer&#8217; that would cause the events by opening the box.</p>
<p>@Roland</p>
<p>In the context of my theory, MIB and Jacob would, the war between the 2, and the fact that MIB needs to find a loophole, all of this, will be caused by events occuring AFTER the end of Season 5 (after present day). Altough I do not have a precise idea on what these events could be, basically it will be the 2 timelines leading in 2 interest groups and eventually 2 persons : MIB and Jacob. Both with their own interests, both struggling to find a way to make their timeline &#8220;win&#8221;. At some point they will be sent to the past and that will result in the big 1800-2007 timeloop that Lost is. To me MIB is a pretty normal human being, no superpower.</p>
<p>&#8220;And when Ben, Richard, Sun etc. are on their walk with Locke/Flocke to go visit Jacob they stop at Flight 815s old shelter on the beach from when they originally crashed. Wouldnâ€™t that not exist in the new timeline?&#8221;</p>
<p>My point is that what we have seen at the end of Season 5 is the collision between 2 timelines, kind of the &#8220;opening of the box&#8221;. Ben Richard Sun walking with Flocke to kill Jacob is MIB&#8217;s side fighting for timeline 2. Illanna coming with the dead body of John Locke is fighting for timeline 1.</p>
<p>@All of you</p>
<p>Also I would like to add something, this theory would explain basically every appearance of dead persons in Lost. The moments where dead people talk to living people would actually be small-scale collisions between the 2 timelines where the person is dead in 1 timeline but alive in the other one. The island would be a privileged location to make the link between the 2 timelines. Except for Hugo who sees dead people outside the island, but Jacob says he&#8217;s &#8220;gifted&#8221;.</p>
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