Comments on: Locke, Flocke, and some Smokey theories… http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/locke-flocke-and-some-smokey-theories/ A place to write and read Lost Theories Thu, 17 May 2012 19:43:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Inquisitor http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/locke-flocke-and-some-smokey-theories/#comment-21813 Inquisitor Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:32:55 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=7522#comment-21813 When Nemesis refused the fish offered by Jacob, he said "No thank you, I just ate".. So unless it's sarcasm, Nemesis does/can actually eat. Plus, as FLocke eats the fruit on Hydra, it seems as if Nemesis is enjoying it a great deal since perhaps he has not tasted anything in quite a while.. When Nemesis refused the fish offered by Jacob, he said “No thank you, I just ate”.. So unless it’s sarcasm, Nemesis does/can actually eat. Plus, as FLocke eats the fruit on Hydra, it seems as if Nemesis is enjoying it a great deal since perhaps he has not tasted anything in quite a while..

]]> By: ilieintheshadowofthestatue http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/locke-flocke-and-some-smokey-theories/#comment-21468 ilieintheshadowofthestatue Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:15:43 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=7522#comment-21468 Or maybe he just ate? ;) Or maybe he just ate? ;)

]]> By: LilBoyBlue42 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/locke-flocke-and-some-smokey-theories/#comment-21451 LilBoyBlue42 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:57:09 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=7522#comment-21451 hmm, i'm still on my second watch-through of season 5. once i finish it (in a couple days) i'll have to think about the multi-timelines theory and get back to you about it. as far as the mango and fish thing goes... he probably just doesn't like fish... maybe he's allergic, or just a picky eater... hmm, i’m still on my second watch-through of season 5. once i finish it (in a couple days) i’ll have to think about the multi-timelines theory and get back to you about it. as far as the mango and fish thing goes… he probably just doesn’t like fish… maybe he’s allergic, or just a picky eater…

]]> By: sohrshah http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/locke-flocke-and-some-smokey-theories/#comment-21448 sohrshah Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:34:04 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=7522#comment-21448 I think it was a reference to being Jacob's brother. If ABC has used other names, then MIB and Samuel are more properly cannon. Thanks for the info! I've been out of the loop awhile and am just now revving up for Season 6! I think it was a reference to being Jacob’s brother. If ABC has used other names, then MIB and Samuel are more properly cannon. Thanks for the info! I’ve been out of the loop awhile and am just now revving up for Season 6!

]]> By: ilieintheshadowofthestatue http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/locke-flocke-and-some-smokey-theories/#comment-21413 ilieintheshadowofthestatue Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:26:15 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=7522#comment-21413 I guess the name Esau might have been dropped because it's not MIB's name and it gives Biblical associations for no obvious reason? According to Lostpedia, ABC has used the names Samuel and MIB. I guess the name Esau might have been dropped because it’s not MIB’s name and it gives Biblical associations for no obvious reason? According to Lostpedia, ABC has used the names Samuel and MIB.

]]> By: sohrshah http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/locke-flocke-and-some-smokey-theories/#comment-21411 sohrshah Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:24:51 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=7522#comment-21411 You have some interesting points and I generally like this theory. Some of the comments have been discussing whether or not MIB (As an aside, the last time I was on this site, we were calling him Esau, I second the earlier point that MIB reminds me of Will Smith and Johnny Cash- it's a bit distracting, and I'm curious about why Esau has been dropped- anyway) can shape-shift, and if can, can Jacob also shape-shift? I remember it being understood that all -or at least most of- the dead people we've seen are embodiments, literally, of the Smoke Monster. MIB could control Smokey without needing to have shape-shift abilities himself. Perhaps both Jacob and Esau/MIB have access to Smokey? I'd say the control is MIB's alone, but can we be certain that Jacob wasn't behind some of the ghostly visits that came to Hurley? You have some interesting points and I generally like this theory. Some of the comments have been discussing whether or not MIB (As an aside, the last time I was on this site, we were calling him Esau, I second the earlier point that MIB reminds me of Will Smith and Johnny Cash- it’s a bit distracting, and I’m curious about why Esau has been dropped- anyway) can shape-shift, and if can, can Jacob also shape-shift? I remember it being understood that all -or at least most of- the dead people we’ve seen are embodiments, literally, of the Smoke Monster. MIB could control Smokey without needing to have shape-shift abilities himself. Perhaps both Jacob and Esau/MIB have access to Smokey? I’d say the control is MIB’s alone, but can we be certain that Jacob wasn’t behind some of the ghostly visits that came to Hurley?

]]> By: Tas http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/locke-flocke-and-some-smokey-theories/#comment-21408 Tas Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:52:36 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=7522#comment-21408 I really feel that they showed Locke eating the mango to clearly tell us that he is a real living breathing person, different to the smokie apparitions. I can't see any other reason to put that in. And yes, theredo seem to be a number of things that indicate that something has changed, possibly another timeline- new dharmaville and the numbers are quite obvious and significant to next season I think I really feel that they showed Locke eating the mango to clearly tell us that he is a real living breathing person, different to the smokie apparitions. I can’t see any other reason to put that in. And yes, theredo seem to be a number of things that indicate that something has changed, possibly another timeline- new dharmaville and the numbers are quite obvious and significant to next season I think

]]> By: ilieintheshadowofthestatue http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/locke-flocke-and-some-smokey-theories/#comment-21407 ilieintheshadowofthestatue Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:02:42 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=7522#comment-21407 Another example is the broadcasting of the numbers after the bright flash when Ajira is landing. It seems that Rousseau never changed the Dharma transmission. Another example is the broadcasting of the numbers after the bright flash when Ajira is landing. It seems that Rousseau never changed the Dharma transmission.

]]> By: ilieintheshadowofthestatue http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/locke-flocke-and-some-smokey-theories/#comment-21405 ilieintheshadowofthestatue Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:01:11 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=7522#comment-21405 LilBoyBlue42, people have commented that when Ben, Frank and Sun got to the main island, things seemed different from before. I don't remember the details, but for example I think it somehow seemed that the purge never took place. Have you read theories detailing these details, which seem to indicate the possibility of different time lines, and what do you say about it? Tas, are we sure it is a real mango that (F)Locke is eating? ;) Nevertheless, I guess we have no strong reason to believe that MIB and his apparitions are not able to eat. We just know that MIB chose not to eat fish at one point. LilBoyBlue42, people have commented that when Ben, Frank and Sun got to the main island, things seemed different from before. I don’t remember the details, but for example I think it somehow seemed that the purge never took place. Have you read theories detailing these details, which seem to indicate the possibility of different time lines, and what do you say about it?

Tas, are we sure it is a real mango that (F)Locke is eating? ;) Nevertheless, I guess we have no strong reason to believe that MIB and his apparitions are not able to eat. We just know that MIB chose not to eat fish at one point.

]]> By: Tas http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/locke-flocke-and-some-smokey-theories/#comment-21403 Tas Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:18:13 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=7522#comment-21403 Another thought, are you saying that MIB not eating the fish is important (somehow shows that he isn't a 'real' person), then how do you explain Locke eating a mango? If he is just an apparition (can't be using his actual body as we've seen it), how does he/it eat? Another thought, are you saying that MIB not eating the fish is important (somehow shows that he isn’t a ‘real’ person), then how do you explain Locke eating a mango? If he is just an apparition (can’t be using his actual body as we’ve seen it), how does he/it eat?

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