Comments on: The Topic of Backgammon again http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/the-topic-of-backgammon-again/ A place to write and read Lost Theories Thu, 17 May 2012 19:43:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jj23 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/the-topic-of-backgammon-again/#comment-21002 Jj23 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:44:56 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=7276#comment-21002 @I_Am_Jacob I think rule no 3 would rather refer to the fact that losties get brougth off / on the island. In backgammon, pieces never die; they are only displaced outside the board (island) and can come back eventually @The Apostle I already started investigating this. I realised that there could be similarities such as moving people on / off the island (moving pieces on / off the board), however somethings just don't fit. In backgammon, pieces get out one after another. In lost, losties get off the island in groups. I then started studying the current theories on the origins of backgammon (which go back to ancient egypt, a game called Senet where there was 13 cases each with different personnalities (god illustrations) causing different events when pieces were put on them). There is like 2 or 3 theories on what were the rules for the board that was recovered but I did not find any particular link to make with Lost beside the basic idea of pieces going off the board like losties get off the island. @I_Am_Jacob

I think rule no 3 would rather refer to the fact that losties get brougth off / on the island. In backgammon, pieces never die; they are only displaced outside the board (island) and can come back eventually

@The Apostle

I already started investigating this. I realised that there could be similarities such as moving people on / off the island (moving pieces on / off the board), however somethings just don’t fit. In backgammon, pieces get out one after another. In lost, losties get off the island in groups.

I then started studying the current theories on the origins of backgammon (which go back to ancient egypt, a game called Senet where there was 13 cases each with different personnalities (god illustrations) causing different events when pieces were put on them). There is like 2 or 3 theories on what were the rules for the board that was recovered but I did not find any particular link to make with Lost beside the basic idea of pieces going off the board like losties get off the island.

]]> By: Ardent Knight http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/the-topic-of-backgammon-again/#comment-20893 Ardent Knight Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:00:50 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=7276#comment-20893 I had suggested this "Big Game" theory in August or so, right about the time this site went down... I never reposted it but maybe I'll look at it again (since the Admin sent me all my theories) and post as well... I do think this may be the case - it's very Twilight Zonish, but the creators have gone out of their way to throwout a lot of game play, ie. Backgammon, Chess, Risk, Mouse Trap, Axis & Allies, cards, and I guess ping-pong & golf too... In my write up I had mentioned Othello as well, since it seems to match what you've wrote here somewhat, with the pieces changing ownership from black to white and vice-versa throughout the show as they do in that game. I had suggested this “Big Game” theory in August or so, right about the time this site went down… I never reposted it but maybe I’ll look at it again (since the Admin sent me all my theories) and post as well… I do think this may be the case – it’s very Twilight Zonish, but the creators have gone out of their way to throwout a lot of game play, ie. Backgammon, Chess, Risk, Mouse Trap, Axis & Allies, cards, and I guess ping-pong & golf too… In my write up I had mentioned Othello as well, since it seems to match what you’ve wrote here somewhat, with the pieces changing ownership from black to white and vice-versa throughout the show as they do in that game.

]]> By: I_Am_Jacob http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2009/12/the-topic-of-backgammon-again/#comment-20839 I_Am_Jacob Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:10:26 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=7276#comment-20839 it is a possibility that just one big but very important game is being played. The evidence being the rules that Jacob, Nemesis and Ben mention. I am also a non backgammon player so i don't know the rules to it but i'll have a go at relating it to the show against the points you've made. the most interesting point/rule you mention is No. 3. (When attacked or captured a stone gets placed on the bar and can only come back when there is an opening to do so). this may relate to Nemesis. He gets trapped (captured) in the cabin until Hurley breaks the ash circle which created an opening. this meant that Nemesis could get back into the game. or maybe point 3 could relate to the losties and their connection with Jacob and Nemesis. Maybe Nemesis can't bring any pieces (dead people) back into play until someone dies and creates a space for them to return such as FLocke/Christian/Yemi's apparant reincarnations? And maybe Jacob can only bring new pieces (alive people) to the game when someone dies and creates a space for new people such as when the Black Rock, Rousseau's crew and 815 arrived. If this is the case, Jacob and Nemesis will be going round in circles. When someone dies they go onto Nemesis' team but at the same time Jacob can then bring new alive people to the island to be on his team. Maybe, and it a biggie, as Jacob has been killed by Nemesis, Nemesis will try to control the dead manifestation of Jacob. However, it could end in a similar way to how The Matrix Revolutions ended when Smith took over Neo's body - both persons were eliminated. i hope i've made sense because i've possibly confused myself!!! :) it is a possibility that just one big but very important game is being played. The evidence being the rules that Jacob, Nemesis and Ben mention.

I am also a non backgammon player so i don’t know the rules to it but i’ll have a go at relating it to the show against the points you’ve made.

the most interesting point/rule you mention is No. 3. (When attacked or captured a stone gets placed on the bar and can only come back when there is an opening to do so).

this may relate to Nemesis. He gets trapped (captured) in the cabin until Hurley breaks the ash circle which created an opening. this meant that Nemesis could get back into the game.

or maybe point 3 could relate to the losties and their connection with Jacob and Nemesis. Maybe Nemesis can’t bring any pieces (dead people) back into play until someone dies and creates a space for them to return such as FLocke/Christian/Yemi’s apparant reincarnations? And maybe Jacob can only bring new pieces (alive people) to the game when someone dies and creates a space for new people such as when the Black Rock, Rousseau’s crew and 815 arrived.

If this is the case, Jacob and Nemesis will be going round in circles. When someone dies they go onto Nemesis’ team but at the same time Jacob can then bring new alive people to the island to be on his team.

Maybe, and it a biggie, as Jacob has been killed by Nemesis, Nemesis will try to control the dead manifestation of Jacob. However, it could end in a similar way to how The Matrix Revolutions ended when Smith took over Neo’s body – both persons were eliminated.

i hope i’ve made sense because i’ve possibly confused myself!!! :)

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