Hey Everyone,

You may have noticed the site has been in “Maintenance Mode” for most of the day. This is because I wanted to get a few new features added to the site and to fix a problem before Season Six starts on Tuesday.

I’ve added a Members List page which lists all the members on the site – there are quite a lot!

The comments has been changed slightly, with a new “Reply” and “Quote” option on each comment. I’ve also re-introduced the “Report Comment” function so that any comment that you feel is inappropriate you can let me know about it anonymously. This is more for when I’m absent from the site, which unfortunately I will be between Tuesdays and Fridays (which will be explained in a mo’).

The problem that I’ve fixed is when you’re on your profile, it would only show so many posts without giving you any links to view the next page. Now it does. Try it and let me know if you have any problems with it.

With regards to my absence on the site. As most of you know, I’m in the UK and will only get to see the show on the Friday after it’s aired in the US. So from Tuesday evening until Friday evening I’ll be absent from the site so I can avoid spoilers.

I’ll try to register new registrations between that time, but may not get to them until the Friday. Please be patient.

Obviously if you need to get in touch with me within the 3 days I’m away, please email me at admin@theoriesonlost.com. You can also use the “Report Comment” feature if you feel any comment is inappropriate. This alerts me to any problems on the site without me having to read through any posts or any other comments etc.

I did this system last year and didn’t have many problems, so I think everything will be ok this year.

That’s all for now I think. Thanks to everyone who supports the site and myself, and for making this site a pleasure to run. You’re the best.

Let’s enjoy the last season of LOST – are you ready? x

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Okay, are deleted scenes canon?
I remember way back in season 1 that Damon and Carlton were all like, “The only thing you can take at face value is the current episode (not even the enhanced versions because an outside source does that).
But fast forward a couple of season and we get the infamous deleted scence where Sawyer asks Juliet about the runway the others are buliding and she says it’s for the ailens.
And low and behold that very next season, we have our Losties via 316 landing on it…

And another thing has anyone seen the deleted scence also in season 4 where Ben returns to the “exit point” in the middle of the Tunisian desert and takes a block out of a wall, revealing a bag of passports. When he looks over his shoulder, there is another man lying on the ground, seemingly uninjured. Which I wrote down in my “Lost” Journal as strange, which took me to way back when i was watching season 1 and the whole “Bad Twin Manuscript” made people think Lost was heading into stuff about clones/doubles. Which is kind of like what might happen in an ALT, depending on whose theory you agree with.

But I think that things are starting to come back full circle and maybe that some of the oldest theories may get new life (be reincarnated perhaps?), so who knows.

I was also pondering the “new narrative device” for season six, I have a feeling it might be
Jacob/MIB pov. Like a flashback through all of seasons 1-5 but from their side and we get new layers to what we thought we already knew.

I am just rambling to pass the time really. The wait is making a not so nice person to live with. Feel free to ripped me to shreds.

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I have a theory on the idea of a constant on or off of the island. The two episodes that elude to this math type idea of time are the constant the variable. It seems that there are two possibilities of a constant. Richard Alpert is clearly the constant on the island. Desmond is a constant off the island. Clearly Desmond will return. There is no reason why they would keep him with the show unless he was going to crash on the island in his boat. The Variable is a very interesting episode because while it is centered around desmond, he can’t be the constant and the variable. I believe the variable is Ben, and whether he choses to be selfish or, selfless will determine the fate of everyone. Some people say Juliet is a variable but I don’t see it.
The other theory is that every individual has their own constant and variable which is possible but would not really make sense with the amount of times that the writers have eluded to this type of idea.

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I know this timeline thing has been done to death, but I feel that people are close but are off.

Let’s state what we know:

1.) Desmond is normal not knowing anything about the future. First couple of seasons.

2.) Desmond turns failsafe. Energy is released, encompassing Desmond. Frees his mind from time.

3.) Desmond now sees events happening as Charlie dies. He changes it, sees Charlie dies a second time. (BTW. Claire is dead for the same reasons Charlie is dead.)

4.) Time can be manipulated, but it requires knowledge of the future. The Lost guys who traveled back in time. Faraday, Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley all have info on the future.

I believe that the whole situation with Benjamin Linus getting shot and living wasn’t a matter of not being able to change the past, Faraday convincing the Lost’ies in the room that you can’t change it so they follow that advice blindly and don’t make their own choices. (Only fools are trapped by time and space.) If they are foolish to think that their own free will can’t change things they will follow blindly.

5.) Desmond only remembers the memory at the point at which Faraday exorcising his free will and knowledge of the future, and talks to Desmond in the past at the Hatch. I believe that point was to illustrate that it can be changed, but also to illustrate that there are not two strings of time created from that point, but it is the same string but with a new series of events. There is no way to go back to the original series of events as they now never happened. The future is the new original series of events.

6.) Faraday was about to exorcise his free will again by launching the bomb, but only failed because he did not have knowledge of his mother purposely leading him to his death. If he knew that was going to happened he could have changed it. However, he still changed it by letting Jack and Kate know his plans to use the bomb. Now Jack and Kate know about the future and eventually set off the bomb at the end of season 5 with help.

7.) There is a clear difference that nobody seems to recognize between time manipulation by Desmond and time manipulation by Faraday and time manipulation by Eloise. The difference is, Desmond gained his ability by the energy in the hatch via failsafe key and knowledge of the future was given to him. (Faraday says Desmond is an exception). Faraday gained his knowledge via his body going through actual time travel knowing about only a few events. Desmond didn’t time travel, he was only given knowledge of events and could manipulate them. But one thing remains true, knowledge of the future can change events. I’ll explain Eloise’s power to manipulate time a little later.

8.) I believe that there aren’t two separate timelines. Only one timeline that sort of loops around. It flows normal until an event is changed, then loops backwards like from 2004 back to 1977 then everything new that happens will result in a new 2010 year looking different from the original. The original 2010 no longer exists as it never happened. Every changing of events creates a new, unpredictable future. Eloise says in episode 5×15 when talking to Penelope that for the first time she doesn’t know what will happen.

1800 1977 2004 2010
————————————– Original Series of events is just this line.
| |
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With loop, you get a new series of events, but the original series never happened the same way.

This suggests that Eloise only knew what happened because she was around on the island the first time around, which gave her a unique perspective of knowing events. The fact that she knew what was going to happen probably suggests that this isn’t the first time, that time has looped. She was only able to know up to the events of when desmond was shot or just before.

9.) Eloise is trying to manipulate time from her knowledge of things going to happen via Faraday’s book the first loop around. So we’re viewing 2nd loop or later loops of the lost series according to Eloise’s perspective. It could have looped 1 time or 1,000,000 times. However, and this is where it gets confusing for most. If a loop was created in the past before a future loop, to Eloise the past was the first original time around. She can never see any time loops that happened before hers because it would appear as an original timeline to her. Hence 2010 being the new original. Example.
1800 1977 2004 New timeline 2010 2030
————————————————–
| | | |
——- ———
Faraday’s Loop Eloise’s Loop

With the years being off i know. Just an example. To Eloise in the future, sending Faraday back to alter time knowing he was going back could fill him with all kinds of ideas to change the past. She knows this is possible which is why she does it and is how she can create a time loop. However once the loop is back to the present. The future is not known to Eloise from that point on.

10.) Eloise only has the power to know the future from 1977 until present as long as she sends Faraday back to meet her on the island and get his book. If that doesn’t happen, then Eloise looses her power to manipulate time. Everytime that time loops and she receives the book, the book could have new or changed information about the previous loops. She could even add a counter or mark the book to keep track of how many loops have actually happened. Add a tick per lifetime.

11.) If Faraday or Desmond makes an original change in the past. Eloise wouldn’t know about it how it went originally before the loop created by them. (Now I know you guys are saying, She knew about Desmond not supposed to take the ring event.) She knew about it because Faraday had info on Desmond in his book and details about his life originally which explains how she knows where to go in Desmonds life to make sure certain things happen. From Faraday’s notes. Which also surprises her that Desmond was going to actually take it. At that point Desmond had turned the failsafe key and now had the power to change what was written in Faraday’s book surprising Eloise. However if Desmond makes a change, as long as eloise has the book, the notes will change in Faraday’s book giving her insights to the change of events before they happen. (remember sports almanac in Back to the future?) The book is Eloise’s power to manipulate the future but only works up to a certain point.

12.) What will happen in Season 6. We do not know and can not know for the same reason. All the losties will absorb the energy from the bomb catalyst. Remember, everyone died at the end of season 5 near the hatch except the losties. (Unless radzinky somehow survived an A.K. 47 bullet, and appeared to be dead, but was in fact alive to receive the energy to send knowledge to himself, and he’s the guy in the nuthouse with Hurley in the early series.) Fun thought. They will all go back to LAX, but will be as Desmond and be able to change the timeline from the point of the airport flight 815 point in time and forward. The difference this time is Eloise can no longer manipulate the past as well anymore because she will not have the information on the other losties. Only on Faraday still. Season 6 should make what we know mostly obsolete. Originally losties will see things as we saw them in the original series of events but will be able to work together to change things. And Widmore, and Eloise will no longer be able to keep it all to themselves. Jacob could be saved, instead of killed. MiB could be killed instead of Jacob.

So basically, anything can happen. I like this approach to the series because since we cannot figure it out due to this randomness thrown in, we get to sit back and watch it all happen as it will happen. The original series of events that we knew and watched during the first 5 seasons, happened, but time looped back, and will create a new future series of events.

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Sorry if this has been posted before — did a search and couldn’t find any reference to it…

I re-watched the pilot episode last night for the nth time, and again found myself fascinated by the scene where Jack wakes up in the jungle. Next to his head on the ground (to his left, the viewer’s right) appears to be a black flashlight or some cylindrical object. And Jack is fumbling around with his left hand, like maybe he remembers that he was holding something and now he’s dropped it?

It doesn’t seem like the producers wouldn’t have put this in if it didn’t have significance. But the only significance I can think of would involve a time loop of some kind that will explain this object — maybe we will find out this season.

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…personally, anyway.

I’ve over-indulged in reading so great theories, many ridiculous yet clever ones, and some just plain hideous, but the reason why I think it was a bad idea for me to surf all over the net and read them is because… What if, in the end, the awesome theories I’ve read turns out to be much better than the real final storyline? What if only two or three major questions are answered, but in the most simplest way, unlike the interesting ideas we’ve all provided?

I’m just sayin’. I’ve been spoiling myself for how many months and now I’m getting an awkward withdrawal of possibly becoming underwhelmed with Season 6. I’m like Miles right before the incident; a whole 2-3 hours of suspense and action when he realized what if what Jack is about to do is a bad idea (the bomb would actually cause the incident) lol.

Sorry, I just needed to vent. The wait is killing me.

And I just REALLY hope it’s not about aliens. Remember the comic book in the first few episodes? You see a polar bear in it, there were polar bears in real life… you see aliens….. well, unless the “aliens” meant The Others. Okay, now I just hope that the island isn’t all made up that came from a comic book lol.

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This issue has more than likely been pressed upon but i cant find it on here so here we go again..

Cooper can’t be Lockes father right?

When Johns mother was pregnant, her mother was ranting on about how he is 20 years older than her.

Lets say this is true.

Locke is 48 and Cooper looks about 60’s, giving them a gap of about 20 years.. which would mean Lockes mother was 0 when she gave birth (i think that is highly unlikely..)

So if his mother was 15/16 giving birth, Lockes father must have been about 35. So Cooper must be 35 years older than Locke. In my opinion, Cooper does not look 80..

So what are everyones thoughts on this?

Was Cooper conning him?

Is Cooper actually the father and his mother was just dating a different guy when she was pregnant?

Or do we go all ‘Lost’ on our asses and suspect theres more to Cooper than meets the eye..?

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what if the failsafe key detonated the bomb.

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I was rewatching the season 4 episode, “Something Nice Back Home”. My theory comes from the scene about halfway through the episode, where in Jack’s flashforward, there is a smoke detector going off in the lobby of the hospital. As Jack takes out the battery to turn the detector off, Christian appears. This seemed like a very obvious clue to me that has been overlooked. A smoke detector goes off, and then Christian shows up.

Thoughts?

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So we have seen a wide array of hidden references, clues and easter eggs inside of five seasons of Lost…

Now, lets save twenty million comments and NOT name ones we have seen in the past…

But what references…books, magazines, songs, records, games, etc… do you think we will see THIS sixth and final season on Lost?

For books, I would not be suprised to see…

-Ayn Rand, “Atlas Shrugged”

-“The Illuminatus Trilogy”

-or any of “The Wheel of Time” books…just for fun

For music…

-Anything by the Pixies…specifically a song that repeats “change” several times

-“If I could change the world”

Sayerisms…

-Zeus (if he didnt use that one…)

-Dr Who

-Dr Kavorkian (been waiting for this…may be an opportune time)

-Bruce Willis “sixth sense” (maybe Hurley or Miles)

Games…

-any kind of puzzle game (connect the dots by one of the children)

-fireball island

-Clue

-Guess Who (ok, maybe not that one)

Im sure I will think of more…

What do you got…?

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First hour of lost is awesome…..tuesday can’t come soon enough!

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Before the last season gets going I just want to publicly thank the administrator for all the hard work that they have put into the site and the nurturing back to health when it was asked. Without the admin ‘s dedication we wouldn’t have this site to share our thoughts on a great show.

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This is in response to thoughts about previous civilizations that Dabs mentioned in my “Time and Tide” post. This is again based on “The Fall of Chronopolis.” I left this out of that post figuring that I could bring it up in comments if warranted. On further thought it can stand alone as a theory.

In “The Fall of Chronopolis” the Chronotic Empire seeks to extend it’s control and religion to all points in time. The Empire runs into trouble when it attempts to convert and conquer the Hegemony. They end up fighting a time war were attacks are actually attempts to alter the enemy’s past. By the end of the book it is learned that people in the future have actually isolated the tizme war of the Chronotic Empire and lets it play out over and over as an example of why time travel and changing the past is dangerous.

And so to maybe Lost is a cautionary tale. Perhaps the civilizations that were there before misused the Island and that is why they fell. And this may be Nemesis’ real disagreement with Jacobs. Nemesis may be more concerned with misuse of the Island’s properties and doesn’t want to open the door to further misuse. In the end maybe Lost is cautioning us to not misuse the tools and gifts we are given.

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Who is having the big party on Tuesday?

my apartment in entirely too small!

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This is something that has been kicking around in the back of my mind for awhile and I was going to wait until after the start of the season but figured I’d put it out while we are still in the realm of possibilities before the season starts.

My very first theory on this site was “Lost and The Fall of Chronopolis” and was based on a book I had read in the early ’90s called “The Fall of Chronopolis.” The events in Lost remind me a lot of this book. However at the time I did not have my own copy and the one I read was a library loan. I have recently obtained a personal copy of this book and reread it. The way the book describes time is very different from how many stories view time. And it gave me a different way to look at the Island.

In “The Fall of Chronopolis” time is described as wave like. It goes on to use the analogy of an ocean. The surface of this ‘ocean of time’ is the real physical world that we exist in and the book refers to this as real time. Underneath the surface is potential time with all points in time and all possibilities existing simultaneously. No future, no past, no present, just time. So at the surface where time is wave like there are nodes at the peaks and troughs of the waves. Now time travel requires vast amounts of energy to travel. These nodes are relatively easy to travel to because they act like waystations. Any matter that travels through time to a node can do so with far less energy than is required to a point between nodes. The matter will also stay in that node until it decides to travel to a different node. Travel to points between nodes is possible but requires a lot of energy to get to and to remain in that time period. Otherwise the matter would not remain in that period for long and would be pulled under the surface of real time.

So, could this remarkable Island that we are all enamoured with on Lost be one of these nodes, an island in time? From what we’ve seen, time travel seems to be relatively easy to initiate compared to the majority of locations on the planet and one of the reasons the DHARMA Initiative chose the Island was for the possibility of controlling time. We have also been witness to an individual who had the ability to move his consciouness, although he had little control of it. In “The Fall of Chronopolis” the main character gains the ability to move through time due to being exposed to the undersurface of the ocean of time. At first he started to go mad but then the longer he was exposed to it his mind was able to adjust and also naturally produce the energy that allowed him to travel in time with out the use of technology. We have seen a similar thing happen to Desmond and other individuals plus Faraday was working on an experiment to accomplish the same thing.

A lot of ideas in “the Fall of Chronopolis” can be applied to Lost in my opinion and also provide a new, unique way to look at the Island. A little refuge on the vast sea that is moving with the tides of time.

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Locke sees Horace to relocate the cabin – so the eye in Jacob’s cabin is ‘Horace’s’. Frankly, I think it looks like “the Wolverine’s”, but if Jacob had 2 tapestry’s and one was the statue and the other was the Eye of Horus, that bit of tapestry meant the cabin and used to identify where ‘he’
would be …

“He” could be Jacob (who just made the tapestry and said “you’ll know where I’ll be”) OR I’m thinkin’ MIB trapped there by ash of his own body, ‘killed’ and burned in an episode not yet seen. And, this form of imprisonment is what Flocke was planning for Jacob at end of Season 5.

Aside: The Eye of Horus is “symbol of protection and royal power from deities” There’s math tied to it, too. Basically 2 to rising negative exponents from 1-6 (1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64) 2-8-16 are familiar and their corresponding inverse are [from Wikipedia]:

1/4 was represented by sight or the sensation of light, symbolized by the pupil. The pyramid text says: “Perfect is the Eye of Horus. I have delivered the Eye of Horus, the shining one, the ornament of the Eye of Ra, the Father of the Gods.”

1/8 was represented by thought, symbolized by the eyebrow. The pyramid text says: “…the Eye of Horus hath made me holy…I will hide myself among you, O ye stars which are imperishable. My brow is the brow of Ra.”

1/16 was represented by hearing, symbolized by the left side of the eye in the form of an arrow pointing towards the ear. The pyramid text says: “That which has been shut fast/dead hath been opened by the command of the Eye of Horus, which hath delivered me. Established are the beauties on the forehead of Ra.”

Which makes me wonder, could MIB be the inverse of Jacob wrt numbers?

Always wondered if Horace’s presence at Ben’s birth was just a coincidence …

3 days! I might be able to hold my breath that long.

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For those that believe in an alternate timeline…..

There was speculation about exactly what MIB said on the beach —

Some say he said “I’m gonna find a loophole my friend.”
While others believe he says “We’re gonna find a loophole my friend.”
If it’s been confirmed that he says “I’m”, then don’t waste your time reading this, I apologize for not knowing everything in the world.

If he says “We’re”, then maybe he’s referring to his people, the people of the other timeline, like a parallel one. Therefore, MIB doesn’t take over bodies at all. Maybe he’s just another guy from the “other side” so to speak, that wants Jacob dead for reasons that might be legit, and explained later. Perhaps Jacob is the reason that there ARE two timelines, and the other side wants him dead because of it. So maybe there’s a connection of sorts. Maybe bringing the dead John Locke to the island allows the John Locke from the other timeline to cross over to Jacob’s timeline (the one we know), which is the loophole that this other team (or timeline) was looking for.

Essentially, that’s not MIB at all. Maybe that’s John Locke that brings Ben to kill Jacob. Just a different John that we don’t know yet. Basically, the other John.

When Jacob sees Locke enter his foot, LOL, he knows who he’s dealing with, perhaps the Locke from the alternate timeline. Now Jacob probably doesn’t know Locke’s dead already, since Ilana was on her way to tell him. Yet, he appeared to be expecting Locke and Ben nonetheless. So I don’t know about that part. (dammit)

This all just came to me, there was no research done. This might be debunked already, that’s fine, let me know, it took 10 minutes outta my day anyway to write this. Thanks.

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For those that believe in an alternate timeline…..

There was speculation about exactly what MIB said on the beach —

Some say he said “I’m gonna find a loophole my friend.”
While others believe he says “We’re gonna find a loophole my friend.”
If it’s been confirmed that he says “I’m”, then don’t waste your time reading this, I apologize for not knowing everything in the world.

If he says “We’re”, then maybe he’s referring to his people, the people of the other timeline, like a parallel one. Therefore, MIB doesn’t take over bodies at all. Maybe he’s just another guy from the “other side” so to speak, that wants Jacob dead for reasons that might be legit, and explained later. Perhaps Jacob is the reason that there ARE two timelines, and the other side wants him dead because of it. So maybe there’s a connection of sorts. Maybe bringing the dead John Locke to the island allows the John Locke from the other timeline to cross over to Jacob’s timeline (the one we know), which is the loophole that this other team (or timeline) was looking for.

Essentially, that’s not MIB at all. Maybe that’s John Locke that brings Ben to kill Jacob. Just a different John that we don’t know yet. Basically, the other John.

When Jacob sees Locke enter his foot, LOL, he knows who he’s dealing with, perhaps the Locke from the alternate timeline. Now Jacob probably doesn’t know Locke’s dead already, since Ilana was on her way to tell him. Yet, he appeared to be expecting Locke and Ben nonetheless. So I don’t know about that part. (dammit)

This all just came to me, there was no research done. This might be debunked already, that’s fine, let me know, it took 10 minutes outta my day anyway to write this. Thanks.

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Let me preface this theory by stating that I do not believe it is true, because it doesn’t mesh with my overall ideas regarding Lost. And most of these ideas have most likely been presented before. However….

For those who have read Hitchiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, you can probably skip this paragraph. In it there is a Restaurant at the end of the universe. This restaurant allows guests to eat and watch the end of the universe within a protected time bubble after which the restaurant rewinds in time and allows the next dinner party to view the wonderful destruction of the universe.

Perhaps the island is in a time bubble as well. Perhaps there were people aware of the end of the world(most likely including Jacob and MIB) who either helped develop the island or found an island with special properties that allowed them to go back in time right when the world was about to end, so they can try and prevent it.

This has happened many times, and MIB has become wary and disillusioned, and believes that there is no hope, that the world can not be saved. Jacob believes they are learning with each iteration, and are making progress each time. Jacob keeps bringing people to the island, hoping the right combination of people will help save the world.

The dharma folk were probably helping and doing pretty well, which is why they were allowed to stay in the first place. However I think as time went on, they lost their focus (maybe with Radzinksy taking over) and were doing more harm than good. This is when the Purge occured.

Maybe this is why there is whatever happened, happened speech. Hawking is trying to ensure that certain events occur that are central to saving the world (god help us all, were all dead talk) Or maybe you can’t change the past within each iteration. But either way I think Jacob knows he has gotten it right this time. And maybe his death is a necessary event in saving humanity and that is why he seems so accepting of his own death.

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Has anyone already mentioned or thought about the fact that when Illana asks Richard “what lies in the shadow of the statue” and Richard says “the one who can save us all” that the real John Lockes body is laying in the shadow of the statue and maybe in a round about way the show is referencing him.

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