Comments on: Alt Timeline Questions http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/01/alt-timeline-questions/ A place to write and read Lost Theories Thu, 17 May 2012 19:43:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Raonak http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/01/alt-timeline-questions/#comment-22874 Raonak Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:42:46 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8089#comment-22874 what im trying to get... is how/when did the alt timeline get formed. when they went back to 1977? when juliet woke up in the bottom of the shaft? when the bomb exploded but more importantly. how did the event not happen in the original timeline? what im trying to get… is how/when did the alt timeline get formed.

when they went back to 1977?
when juliet woke up in the bottom of the shaft?
when the bomb exploded

but more importantly. how did the event not happen in the original timeline?

]]> By: Raonak http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/01/alt-timeline-questions/#comment-22872 Raonak Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:35:46 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8089#comment-22872 what i dont get is where this timeline split gets made. wouldnt daniel have told the losties to detonate the bomb on all timelines? what caused the alt timeline to form? like miles said. what happens if detonating the bomb actually created the incident. what i dont get is where this timeline split gets made. wouldnt daniel have told the losties to detonate the bomb on all timelines?

what caused the alt timeline to form?

like miles said. what happens if detonating the bomb actually created the incident.

]]> By: trinity http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/01/alt-timeline-questions/#comment-22859 trinity Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:28:56 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8089#comment-22859 Ban - that's exactly the reason why I'm questioning the alternate reality theories, because Jack and co. had to be there in 1977 in both timelines, and that just isn't possible without 815 crashing. Ban – that’s exactly the reason why I’m questioning the alternate reality theories, because Jack and co. had to be there in 1977 in both timelines, and that just isn’t possible without 815 crashing.

]]> By: Tas http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/01/alt-timeline-questions/#comment-22710 Tas Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:25:24 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8089#comment-22710 That's why I think Jack etc... die. I feel the whispers will be explained differently, but who knows. Whatever they come up with will be interesting. That’s why I think Jack etc… die.
I feel the whispers will be explained differently, but who knows. Whatever they come up with will be interesting.

]]> By: BanLinus http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/01/alt-timeline-questions/#comment-22709 BanLinus Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:24:05 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8089#comment-22709 Also, although I believe the alt time line will occur, I am not a fan of it. If it is used to explain the whispers and seeing dead people, then the split will have to occur before The Incident. When Ben Linus first came to the island, he heard whispers and saw his dead mom. These events occurred about 1973. Also, although I believe the alt time line will occur, I am not a fan of it.
If it is used to explain the whispers and seeing dead people, then the split will have to occur before The Incident.
When Ben Linus first came to the island, he heard whispers and saw his dead mom. These events occurred about 1973.

]]> By: BanLinus http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/01/alt-timeline-questions/#comment-22707 BanLinus Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:21:05 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8089#comment-22707 Trinity, you bring up an excellent point. If the time split occurs in the incident, then that means Jack and company are in 1977 in both time lines. One where the bomb explodes and the one where it doesn't. I am not sure that the time split occurs in 1977. Now that said, the island is a place where elements of both time lines can exist in my opinion. Trinity, you bring up an excellent point. If the time split occurs in the incident, then that means Jack and company are in 1977 in both time lines. One where the bomb explodes and the one where it doesn’t.
I am not sure that the time split occurs in 1977.
Now that said, the island is a place where elements of both time lines can exist in my opinion.

]]> By: BanLinus http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/01/alt-timeline-questions/#comment-22705 BanLinus Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:14:19 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8089#comment-22705 Time line 3 is a combination of time lines 1 and 2. A merger if you will. Time line 3 is a combination of time lines 1 and 2. A merger if you will.

]]> By: Tas http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/01/alt-timeline-questions/#comment-22704 Tas Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:05:05 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8089#comment-22704 The timeline that we have seen from season 1 is the result of the bomb NOT going off, they concreted it in, built the hatch, button pushing, 815 crash. The alt timeline occurs because the bomb went off this time, that is what is different and the bomb and energy split time. I think Yojimbo? taked about somthing called biurification??? when time splits to avoid a paradox. That's why there needs to be tow timelines, one where the bomb didn't go off and events happen the way we've seen them and another, running parallel where things are different. You can't just change the 1 timeline because, yes you'd end up with a huge paradox. I think the timeline where Sun and frank are now is a merged timeline. I'll try to draw a picture and scan it in when I get home from work as I can see where you are confusing what I'm saying but I don't know how to explain it better, a diagram may help. The timeline that we have seen from season 1 is the result of the bomb NOT going off, they concreted it in, built the hatch, button pushing, 815 crash.

The alt timeline occurs because the bomb went off this time, that is what is different and the bomb and energy split time. I think Yojimbo? taked about somthing called biurification??? when time splits to avoid a paradox. That’s why there needs to be tow timelines, one where the bomb didn’t go off and events happen the way we’ve seen them and another, running parallel where things are different. You can’t just change the 1 timeline because, yes you’d end up with a huge paradox.

I think the timeline where Sun and frank are now is a merged timeline.

I’ll try to draw a picture and scan it in when I get home from work as I can see where you are confusing what I’m saying but I don’t know how to explain it better, a diagram may help.

]]> By: trinity http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/01/alt-timeline-questions/#comment-22699 trinity Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:10:56 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8089#comment-22699 I understand what you're saying, but I still don't quite get it. Surely the timeline we saw in the finale needs to continue onto the same timeline we saw from season 1 in order for Jack and co. to go back in time and detonate the bomb? If Oceanic 815 doesn't crash then they can't go back in time to detonate the bomb. So doesn't this leave us with 3 timelines? 1. The original timeline we've seen from Season 1 which continues after the detonation of the H-Bomb. 2. The one where Flight 815 doesn't crash. 3. The one where Flocke, Sun etc. are now in 2007. I understand what you’re saying, but I still don’t quite get it.

Surely the timeline we saw in the finale needs to continue onto the same timeline we saw from season 1 in order for Jack and co. to go back in time and detonate the bomb?

If Oceanic 815 doesn’t crash then they can’t go back in time to detonate the bomb.

So doesn’t this leave us with 3 timelines?

1. The original timeline we’ve seen from Season 1 which continues after the detonation of the H-Bomb.

2. The one where Flight 815 doesn’t crash.

3. The one where Flocke, Sun etc. are now in 2007.

]]> By: Tas http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/01/alt-timeline-questions/#comment-22698 Tas Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:24:52 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8089#comment-22698 I think they die in the bomb blast. The new timeline created by the blast has events that don't lead to the 815 crash. Dan used the crash as an incentive for Jack, but it isn't the only consequence of the change. There will be new versions of the losties killed by the bomb in the new timeline, with slightly different experiences from 1977 and no 815 crash. I feel that they will used Des-like flashes for these characters to 'know' that something isn't quite right and to want to 'fix it'. Hope this makes sense ;) I think they die in the bomb blast. The new timeline created by the blast has events that don’t lead to the 815 crash. Dan used the crash as an incentive for Jack, but it isn’t the only consequence of the change.
There will be new versions of the losties killed by the bomb in the new timeline, with slightly different experiences from 1977 and no 815 crash.
I feel that they will used Des-like flashes for these characters to ‘know’ that something isn’t quite right and to want to ‘fix it’. Hope this makes sense ;)

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