(note: possible spoilers, if you don’t want to know what the hieroglyphs might mean)

I’ve been browsing around Lostpedia (great site btw), and stumbled upon the hieroglyphs section. First of all, I know Lostpedia allows anyone to edit and stuff, so let’s take this as pure speculation.

There are lots of postings (and updated as well) on what these symbols mean and what they are as a whole, from the first sightings of the hieroglyphs to the recent ones. Let’s see some interesting samples:

The red/black symbols on the countdown timer in the hatch – according to damon, the symbols meant to mean “underworld,” while Carlton it’s up to interpretation. Can “Underworld” mean the impending cause of the island to sink? “underwater?” Or, it can simply stand for the fact that the hatch is underground. Or “hell.” Or just a metaphor, as in “yall gon’ die.”

The frozen donkeywheel chamber – There are three groups of hieroglyphs analyzed: two on the wall and one on a column. The walls’ symbols mean “Travel” and “time/vicinity,” which is true to what the wheel does! Also, the column symbols indicates “resurrection.” Interesting… Feel free to analyze that!

Ok, the following is the real kicker..

The Temple – Outside the temple on the walls (can be seen during the Jin/French people/lost arm scene), some symbols mean “resurrection.” This was somewhat proven in the episode “LA X” when the OtherOthers tried to bring back Sayid. Other hieroglyphs scattered within the temple mean: “Travel (interesting),” “rise up,” “the way to sky/heaven,” “time/lifetime/space of time”….. wow. Conscience time/traveling? Literally “life changing? (exchange bodies from other universes)”

The Lighthouse – People are having a hard time translating the Lighthouse hieroglyphs. Damn! This would have been a great way to know more about it.

There’s plenty more hieroglyph hints, such as Ben’s secret door, school classroom, tapestry, etc. Again, we should take some of these with a grain of salt, but we can’t help that some have been proven already!

Reference:
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Hieroglyphs

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[SPOILER]
So, the TV synopsis says Sundown has Sayid, I’ll assume MIB at the temple … AND Keamy!!! Who care’s if they answer anything … bring it on!
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I think the white flash at the end of Season 5’s finale might have some significance to it. Unlike any other episode closings that fades to black, this is the only white close in the series. There may be more theories and reasons about the white flash, but I’m only going to talk about one theory. I’m sorry, but I’m going to talk about the Jughead again.

The scene where Juliet hits the bomb was the last scene we saw. But, was did this scene happen AFTER the death of Jacob? Or DURING the death of Jacob? I’m aware that both group of Losties are in different times, but what can make The Island change the most, a bomb or the man behind it all? I think we were tricked into thinking that the bomb-exploding scene happens sometime after the scene of Jacob’s death, when both scene could have happened at the same time.

What if the WHITE flash is due to the death of JACOB? If this is the case, we can say that the off-island events are not from the bomb incident, but Jacob’s death (or both, if you’re into that). So, was the bomb scene useless? No, it can mean something more, but I’m not delving further into it. Maybe the incident simply moved them to their proper time.

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Just a quick point to discuss, probably nothing though.
When Charlie has to play “Good Vibrations” in the Looking Glass he comments about the person who set it up as being a talented musician.
We also see that David Shephard has “gift” for the piano. Wondering if there could be a link.
Just an observation would be interested to see what you guys think.

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hey gang!

ok im putting it out there that the person coming to the island is…..David Shepard. Jacks son from the parallel timeline. They have made a him part of the story otherwise. Seems that most of the Shepard bloodline is there, i guess theres room for 1 more!!

I also reckon that if you moved the mirrors in the lighthouse to 108 we would see young David.

What do ya think?

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I went back to revisit the season 5 finalle and after Ben stabs Jacob he falls to his knees and says”they’re coming”. This I would think would rule out any single character and would have to be two or more people who know each other off island.Unless fate is bringing them back individually but arriving together.Kinda like a plane crash ,but thats already been done 3 times so something similar.Also they have to be of great importance for this to be Jacobs final words.Almost as a warning to MIB or as a suggestion that you may have found your loop hole but guess what “they’re coming”.As thou kIlling Jacob was not yet time for celebration for ole’ smokie because whoever is coming is something he has to prepare for.So maybe Jacob and MIB are neither bad or good maybe they are two individuuals preparing seperatly to due battle against a common foe.The only other time we see the two together is when they are casually sitting on the beach talking about the ship.Seems like to me if they were enemies they would’nt have been just chillin together like that.Sure you have the whole MIB getting Ben to kill Jacob thing but how do we really know Jacob is dead? Just because we saw what we saw and have heard what we’ve heard about Jacob dying. It all seems real but let me remind you we’ve seen a lot of smoke and mirrors in this show. I mean this is a person that can ,lets see, travel thru time,does’nt seem to ever age,and brings people back to life with a touch after fallin out a really high window.So i ask again, how do we know he is really dead? He appears to Hurley like he’s dead but he tells Hurly he’s dead so Hurly tells people he’s dead.But just because he can fool Hurly does’nt mean he’s dead. Maybe the title of guardian of the island is split between ole’ smokie and Jacob and they are being challenged to see who can protect the island best. I know this does’nt mean anything but when asked what ole’ smokie was Ben told someone it was a kind of security system for the island. Of course Bens a liar and who can believe anything he says.It just would not surprise me to find out Jacob is still alive and waiting for something before he shows up again. After all we went 5 seasons hearing about him and never seeing him. I bet he’s still there pulling strings like he always has been.

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I posted this question a few days ago, but no one chimed in….I just haven’t heard anyone else mention this….I had just noticed that in Claire’s little shack (where she patched up Jin and axed the Other) there was a lot of “fresh” dynamite all over the place. Where did she get it? Perhaps from the Black Rock after it first arrived? Thoughts?

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I’ve been pondering over the last couple of days reading many of your superb theories and one that really sticks into my mind is the ones circulating around the idea of biblical references.

After ‘The Lighthouse’ I think many, if not all die-hard Lost fans, immediately made a connection between Jack’s son David to the Biblical King David. I have looked at it in more depth and I’m really starting to come round to the idea of the series holding serious religious meanings (no duh).

I see Ben’s attack on Jacob very much like the betrayal by Judas to Jesus. Jesus knew that Judas was going to betray him and let him do so without stopping or even allowing anyone else to stop him. I believe that Jacob has done the exact same with Ben. I think it’s pretty obvious that Jacob knew of the cycle of events that came to pass at the end of season 5 and allowed Ben the ultimate opportunity: Redemption.

I’ve always believed that Ben would have the chance to change and prove that he is genuinely good and great. In fact, thinking of it, when Richard took Ben to the temple to be healed would he have been ‘infected’ by Jacob the same way I presumed Sayid has been with MIB? In that case he would finally have his chance at forgiveness etc. that Richard said he would never get again: “He will never be the same.” So after everything that Ben has been put through, all the guilt he must be suffering as a result of everything he has done, he could change around everything. I think Ben will make the ultimate sacrifice in duty to the Island and to Jacob.

Anyway, discuss?

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Did anyone else notice that the stewardess that slipped Jack the extra liquor that said it was “their little secret” was on the island when we first saw Dogen & the other people of the Temple?? She was there for a split second behind Dogen when they almost killed the losties??

Thoughts as to why???? or any significance…

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one third of the way into the final season and only one of my million questions has been answered…..heres another:  season 4, the episode that sayid has his flash forward where he is in germany with the girl….she has a bracelet that is initialed with the letters R.G…..flash back to island and dead naomi has the same bracelet…..if this was not of any importance, why bother with it?….there is no character from s1 to s6 with those initials…….could these be the initials of the only person left un-named?…..your friendly neighbouhood smoke monster who used to be a man and who has felt love ???

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another biggie for me…..the lockdown in the hatch is created by rubbing two wires together…we see kelvin do it and we see desmond do it….NOBODY ELSE……who did it when the blast door trapped locke inside ??? remember: ben was locked in the armoury , no-one else was in the hatch….

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Lost has drawn on many religions and pantheons over the years. The most obvious has been Egyption with the hieroglyphs, ankh, and statue. Then there is the Hinduism suggested by Dharma. And then the Greek pantheon suggested by the Apollo bars and Cerberus notations. We have finally seen the temple and it suggests a Aztec influence on the show. While doing research on an unrelated topic I stumbled upon an Aztecs God that may be the inspiration for Nemesis. The name of this god is Tezcatlipoca.

Tezcatlipoca was the Aztecs god of the nocturnal sky and ancestral memory. He was also the god of temptation, discord, and the embodiment of change through conflict. His name means god of the smoking mirror because he carried a obsidian mirror that bellowed black smoke.

Tezcatlipoca had many names and aspects for he was a shapeshifter. As Tezcatlipoca Yaotl he was the enemy. As Tezcatlipoca Telpochtli he stands for eternal youth and when he was Necoyaotl he was the enemy of both sides.

Tezcatlipoca had two aspects that he used often. In his jaguar aspect, Tepeyollotl, he was the lord of darkened caves and echoes. In his blood stained Turkey form, Chalchihuihtotolin, he would tempt humans into self destruction. But in this form he could also cleanse humans of contamination, absolve their sins, and overcome their fates. When Tezcatlipoca carried his smoking mirror the black smoke could kill bad people or punish them with illness.

Tezcatlipoca, along with his twin brother (and also his opposite ) Quetzalcoatl, created the world. There is one myth about Quetzalcoatl that says that he allowed himself to be tempted by Tezcatlipoca but then threw himself on a funeral pyre. After that Quetzalcoatl became a symbol of death and resurrection.

There is an interesting story told by the Aztecs about Tezcatlipoca. They say that if you are alone in the woods at night and see a glowing light accompanied by a sound like chopping wood beware, for Tezcatlipoca is near. The wood chopping like sound is the sound of his ribs opening and closing. The only way to escape Tezcatlipoca is to wait for his ribs to open, thrust your hand inside and pull out his heart.

I believe that it is obvious that Tezcatlipoca parallels many of the same aspects that Nemesis/Smokey has. Considering that the writers have drawn from many areas and subjects to craft Lost I don’t think it is farfetched to think that Tezcatlipoca is the inspiration for Nemesis / Smokey. And even if Tezcatlipoca didn’t inspire them there are a lot of interesting similarities.

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this is a guess but i would be very surprised if the person who jacob says is ‘coming to the island’ isn’t desmond.he will still play a key role in whats goin on, i don’t think they can bring in a new character at this stage…..so i’m going for desmond on that one 🙂

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I posted a few times here last season but haven’t been keeping up with the current threads. I didn’t want to post anything in the theories section that has already been covered, so I was hoping someone could direct me to where these things are talked about. I assume that it’s the general consensus that whenever we have seen Christian alive on the island it was in fact Smokey. I guess I’m not sure what else there is to discuss about that but I am curious to read others thoughts about Christian. Also, I had been thinking for the last few seasons that the numbers were not really that important but rather just something they kept putting in episodes for people like us to overanalyze. Now that they do seem to be important, what do we make of the fact that Jack was sitting in row 24 in the flash-sideways flight 815 rather than in “his number” row 23 as in the original timeline? Also, has anyone brought up the idea that each character’s flash sideways are different from each other? Thanks for your help.

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I just watched the trailer for episode 6 of season 6, and it looks as though Locke will meet up with Sayid, which will be an interesting conversation, and we will most likely/hopefully get some answers on what is going on with Sayid.

There are other things (spoilers) in the trailer too, but I didnt want to say too much and wreck someones pleasure of watching Lost.

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We are the Others. This is our island.
Who are you?
If you are on the list, you may be come one of us.
You are on the list.
But first, you must pass the test.
You passed. No, you did not.
We are lying.
You are infected.
We must kill you.

They tell me I am infected, but I know that I am not.
I must escape.
I did escape.
They cannot kill me now.

It is lonely here. Until I meet..

You.
Who are you?
Are you infected?
They told you that you were infected?
They are wrong. We are not infected.
And who are…

You?
They told you that you are infected?
They are wrong.
We are not infected.
And who are..

We?
We are not infected.
This is our island.
And who are..

They?
The ones that told us we are infected.
They are nothing. They are weak.
This is our island now.

We must kill
They.
We did kill
They.
We are
They.

We are the Others. This is our island. Who are you?

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just a couple to ponder on…..if ben was working for jacob all this time (at least HE thought he was), how was it he was able to summon smokey (season 4)???……….”thats not john, thats my friend”….is it possible that clare can see smokey’s true human form as a result of being claimed???

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as i was looking over some of the canidates names on the list i realized that some could not be the person we think (its just last names it could be alex rosseau instead od danielle who know). What if instead of it being claire littelton we see as a canidate its actually Aaron?

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I am a bit of a novice here. To what does the term SLU refer?

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Several people have proposed that MIB is Jack’s son or is some character that we know already while others have refuted it. While I am not sure how I feel about it being someone we already know, I think think by the mere fact we do not know the name of MIB, it means that we will recognize the name and know the character that he is. Obvioulsy that would be giving away too much this early in the season.
A comment – If Jacob is really the evil one that has manipulated all his “victims” and MIB is a good guy just trapped and trying to leave (don’t get the smoke thing tho’), then I will feel as manipulated as Jack, Sawyer, et al.

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