Comments on: The Infected http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-infected/ A place to write and read Lost Theories Thu, 17 May 2012 19:43:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: ekolocation http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-infected/#comment-25840 ekolocation Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:00:00 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9290#comment-25840 assuming the jacob that hurley saw in the jungle really was jacob...than i believe sayid is not infected, or infected in a good way. the jacob hurley sees sort of inspects sayid's body while talking to hurley. also if the note said to heal sayid...then jacob knows how all this plays out already. probably knew sayid was going to die... assuming the jacob that hurley saw in the jungle really was jacob…than i believe sayid is not infected, or infected in a good way. the jacob hurley sees sort of inspects sayid’s body while talking to hurley.

also if the note said to heal sayid…then jacob knows how all this plays out already. probably knew sayid was going to die…

]]> By: mojo http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-infected/#comment-25791 mojo Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:59:55 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9290#comment-25791 I think the infection isn't really an infection at all. I don't trust the Others any more than I ever have. We have seen Ben do horrible things in the name of the island, only to learn that he never really received any direction and was just following ... what? MIB? Anyway, how are we to know that Dogen isn't doing the same? Maybe this "infection" is actually a death of sorts in that those claimed or infected are no longer a part of the "progress" as Jacob calls it. Maybe all of this is more of a test and they are finished. Claire didn't ever really have bad intentions towards anyone; Christian did, but was trying to make amends by the time he died (right? maybe I should re-watch), Danielle we don't know enough about, but she didn't seem like an EVIL person, and Sayid also had done horrible things but had "repented" for lack of a better term. So maybe their judgment is done and they are no longer accessible to Jacob or MIB? Maybe that is in fact, the claiming. They have been judged and so can no longer be swayed one way or the other. I think the infection isn’t really an infection at all. I don’t trust the Others any more than I ever have. We have seen Ben do horrible things in the name of the island, only to learn that he never really received any direction and was just following … what? MIB? Anyway, how are we to know that Dogen isn’t doing the same?
Maybe this “infection” is actually a death of sorts in that those claimed or infected are no longer a part of the “progress” as Jacob calls it. Maybe all of this is more of a test and they are finished. Claire didn’t ever really have bad intentions towards anyone; Christian did, but was trying to make amends by the time he died (right? maybe I should re-watch), Danielle we don’t know enough about, but she didn’t seem like an EVIL person, and Sayid also had done horrible things but had “repented” for lack of a better term. So maybe their judgment is done and they are no longer accessible to Jacob or MIB? Maybe that is in fact, the claiming. They have been judged and so can no longer be swayed one way or the other.

]]> By: lostinthought http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-infected/#comment-25635 lostinthought Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:49:54 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9290#comment-25635 So Jacob appeared to Hurley and told him he needed to take Sayid to the Temple so he can live, and that they would all be safe at the temple. My question is was that really Jacob, and perhaps didn't know that Sayid would be infected, or did he know and didn't care? OR was that Smokey acting like Jacob? I was under the impression that it was the latter, Smokey. So Jacob appeared to Hurley and told him he needed to take Sayid to the Temple so he can live, and that they would all be safe at the temple. My question is was that really Jacob, and perhaps didn’t know that Sayid would be infected, or did he know and didn’t care? OR was that Smokey acting like Jacob? I was under the impression that it was the latter, Smokey.

]]> By: Roland http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-infected/#comment-25617 Roland Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:02:39 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9290#comment-25617 The infection may not have anything to do with Smokie. It does bring up alot of questions though. Desmond innoculating himself. Ethan shooting Aaron up with drugs while still in Claire. Hopefully it will all come together soon so we can get on with some bigger questions and answers. I posted something in the questions section just for the hell of it. I still think Sayid is the new Jacob. The other others might not know what exactly he is infected with. The infection may not have anything to do with Smokie. It does bring up alot of questions though. Desmond innoculating himself. Ethan shooting Aaron up with drugs while still in Claire. Hopefully it will all come together soon so we can get on with some bigger questions and answers.
I posted something in the questions section just for the hell of it. I still think Sayid is the new Jacob. The other others might not know what exactly he is infected with.

]]> By: Jenius http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-infected/#comment-25604 Jenius Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:34:21 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9290#comment-25604 The thing that strikes me is and i think we will see it next week, Flockes walking around with "smokie" in his body Richard over shoulder, but hes also infected sayid? and obdviously claire! All at the same time? Previous to last night i thought he was just a one entity type of thing dropping in and out of bodies, he certainly did that when he turned from flocke into smokie then back into flocke.Could we still be looking at two things? The others walking Kate n jin thru the jungle makes it clear they are keeping the smoke monster out of the temple, but if the others think sayid is infected with smokie then hes already in the temple? ohhhhh its driving me crazy another whole week to wait! The thing that strikes me is and i think we will see it next week, Flockes walking around with “smokie” in his body Richard over shoulder, but hes also infected sayid? and obdviously claire! All at the same time? Previous to last night i thought he was just a one entity type of thing dropping in and out of bodies, he certainly did that when he turned from flocke into smokie then back into flocke.Could we still be looking at two things? The others walking Kate n jin thru the jungle makes it clear they are keeping the smoke monster out of the temple, but if the others think sayid is infected with smokie then hes already in the temple? ohhhhh its driving me crazy another whole week to wait!

]]> By: Odette http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-infected/#comment-25596 Odette Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:03:50 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9290#comment-25596 A.E.S. I agree with you--I like to think that the reason Jacob so quietly allowed himself to be "killed" is that it is part of a bigger plan. Locke may not be the best host for MIB after all because of his faith and connection to the island, even though MIB saw it the other way. I have had a hard time watching Flocke--it just does not seem right. And maybe having Locke's body on the island again will enable Jacob ultimately to restore his life A.E.S.

I agree with you–I like to think that the reason Jacob so quietly allowed himself to be “killed” is that it is part of a bigger plan. Locke may not be the best host for MIB after all because of his faith and connection to the island, even though MIB saw it the other way. I have had a hard time watching Flocke–it just does not seem right. And maybe having Locke’s body on the island again will enable Jacob ultimately to restore his life

]]> By: highbrow http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-infected/#comment-25594 highbrow Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:59:50 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9290#comment-25594 I agree that Locke will be resurrected (and soon, too) and I agree that Locke is the one who's going to do all the stuff that fixes all the other stuff and brings a bunch of stuff together in the end... I disagree though that it has anything to do with a paradox. Stuff. I agree that Locke will be resurrected (and soon, too) and I agree that Locke is the one who’s going to do all the stuff that fixes all the other stuff and brings a bunch of stuff together in the end… I disagree though that it has anything to do with a paradox.

Stuff.

]]> By: A.E.S. http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-infected/#comment-25589 A.E.S. Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:43:54 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9290#comment-25589 I agree...but its Jacobs touch that seemingly awaken him allowing him to be all of those things, and a little push from Matthew Abbadon who sends him on his 'walkabout'. You know I am a believer that Locke is not simply a pawn. He is the one who is destined through a predestinational paradox to be the leader. His body still lays on the ground, and is still very much an influence off of the island. I predict an eventual ressurection, one way or the other of Locke and his faith continuing on. MIB picked Locke because he was weak, and pathetic. Jacob picked Locke because he is not... MIB could not understand the human spirit in a man such as John Locke...because he is not human (anymore?). And if he is/was, he at the very least does not understand faith. And I know he, unlike Jacob and myself, has no faith in John. I agree…but its Jacobs touch that seemingly awaken him allowing him to be all of those things, and a little push from Matthew Abbadon who sends him on his ‘walkabout’.

You know I am a believer that Locke is not simply a pawn.

He is the one who is destined through a predestinational paradox to be the leader.

His body still lays on the ground, and is still very much an influence off of the island.
I predict an eventual ressurection, one way or the other of Locke and his faith continuing on.

MIB picked Locke because he was weak, and pathetic.
Jacob picked Locke because he is not…

MIB could not understand the human spirit in a man such as John Locke…because he is not human (anymore?). And if he is/was, he at the very least does not understand faith.

And I know he, unlike Jacob and myself, has no faith in John.

]]> By: Odette http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-infected/#comment-25588 Odette Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:36:24 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9290#comment-25588 @Bailey227: Sayid was touched by Jacob--I think Jacob might have saved him from getting hit by the car as well. And, what I'll call for now the "evil" forces on the island cannot infect him (though I am not sure which side is good and which is bad yet!) or kill him, but it was the Temple Others that killed him, not the evil forces. Once he died, he was fair game again. I think there is something extra special about Locke being one of the touched ones, dying, then his body being brought back to the island. That whole situation is the loophole. @Bailey227:
Sayid was touched by Jacob–I think Jacob might have saved him from getting hit by the car as well. And, what I’ll call for now the “evil” forces on the island cannot infect him (though I am not sure which side is good and which is bad yet!) or kill him, but it was the Temple Others that killed him, not the evil forces. Once he died, he was fair game again.
I think there is something extra special about Locke being one of the touched ones, dying, then his body being brought back to the island. That whole situation is the loophole.

]]> By: highbrow http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-infected/#comment-25587 highbrow Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:33:28 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9290#comment-25587 All true but I don't think it's Jacob's touch that allows him to do/be all of those things... that's just Locke. All true but I don’t think it’s Jacob’s touch that allows him to do/be all of those things… that’s just Locke.

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