Comments on: The Leash of Cerberus revisited http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-leash-of-cerberus-revisited/ A place to write and read Lost Theories Thu, 17 May 2012 19:43:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: A.E.S. http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-leash-of-cerberus-revisited/#comment-24350 A.E.S. Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:44:43 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8681#comment-24350 Maybe its how to get home... Oh...dont worry, my guard is up, lol... Maybe its how to get home…

Oh…dont worry, my guard is up, lol…

]]> By: Achalli http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-leash-of-cerberus-revisited/#comment-24349 Achalli Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:41:00 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8681#comment-24349 Thanks AES. I'm not so much as denying it but want to remind people to not let there guard down about the situation. Here's another issue to consider (not the cabin). If the Smoke Monster is supposed to be a security system and guards the temple, Nemesis is Smokey, and wants into the Temple, why guard the temple? Thanks AES. I’m not so much as denying it but want to remind people to not let there guard down about the situation.

Here’s another issue to consider (not the cabin). If the Smoke Monster is supposed to be a security system and guards the temple, Nemesis is Smokey, and wants into the Temple, why guard the temple?

]]> By: A.E.S. http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-leash-of-cerberus-revisited/#comment-24346 A.E.S. Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:26:31 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8681#comment-24346 I dont/didnt want MIB to be Smokey to be Flocke...its so hard to fight after last night. I agree with your thought of it being "too easy". I have just learned in my Lost theorizing years that sometimes they really do hand us a silver platter full of food. I have to think about this. I posted a new idea on the thought that he IS smokey...well, someone who is MIB is Smokey... I really really like all your thoughts, and they make so much sense. I was on your boat until about 930 last night...its so hard to fight... I do hope you are right on this one...it would make the show more fun, and some parts of my "Greatest Theory" come true... Great argument. Its hard to argue what they just give us, and you present great info here disputing the fact we may have been given... I dont/didnt want MIB to be Smokey to be Flocke…its so hard to fight after last night.
I agree with your thought of it being “too easy”.
I have just learned in my Lost theorizing years that sometimes they really do hand us a silver platter full of food.

I have to think about this. I posted a new idea on the thought that he IS smokey…well, someone who is MIB is Smokey…

I really really like all your thoughts, and they make so much sense. I was on your boat until about 930 last night…its so hard to fight…

I do hope you are right on this one…it would make the show more fun, and some parts of my “Greatest Theory” come true…

Great argument. Its hard to argue what they just give us, and you present great info here disputing the fact we may have been given…

]]> By: Achalli http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-leash-of-cerberus-revisited/#comment-24345 Achalli Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:19:19 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8681#comment-24345 Sorry I haven't been able to respond earlier. I've been having technical problems wig getting on the site and navigating about it all day. But it gave me time to think this out more. I am no fighting the situation out of stubbornness, refusal to accept the idea or wishful thinking. It just doesn't sit right for me. And the reason is that Flocke is Smokey idea was just too easy to figure out. We all saw it immediately and some of us accepted the idea while others rejected it. But it was just so obvious that it wasn't that big of a reveal. I feel that either the writers have Lost their touch OR they are misdirecting us from something else. Sorry I haven’t been able to respond earlier. I’ve been having technical problems wig getting on the site and navigating about it all day.

But it gave me time to think this out more. I am no fighting the situation out of stubbornness, refusal to accept the idea or wishful thinking. It just doesn’t sit right for me. And the reason is that Flocke is Smokey idea was just too easy to figure out. We all saw it immediately and some of us accepted the idea while others rejected it. But it was just so obvious that it wasn’t that big of a reveal. I feel that either the writers have Lost their touch OR they are misdirecting us from something else.

]]> By: Halapeno http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-leash-of-cerberus-revisited/#comment-24250 Halapeno Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:27:33 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8681#comment-24250 I think the whole scene was worth it just for the "I'm sorry you had to see me like that" line and the look on Ben's face! I think the whole scene was worth it just for the “I’m sorry you had to see me like that” line and the look on Ben’s face!

]]> By: dabiatchishere http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-leash-of-cerberus-revisited/#comment-24240 dabiatchishere Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:15:11 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8681#comment-24240 Hi Achalli, I think there are a couple of reasons why people are disappointed with the 'smoke monster' reveal being Nemesis. Even though we knew we would be getting answers to the mysteries this season, I still think we were unprepared to have one of the biggest mysteries to Lost, unveiled so quickly. Secondly, I feel there was an expectation that the 'smoke monster' was something other than what/who it turned out to be. There is still soooo much mystery surrounding Nemesis/Smokie. Consider the following conversation between Nemesis and Ben after Nemesis/Smokie finishes off Ilana's crew in front of Ben. Ben asks Nemesis "What are you"? Nemesis responds by saying: "it's not what am I, but who am I..... He also concludes this conversation by telling Ben that he just wants to go home. That in and of itself is a mystery, when you consider where is home? If all Nemesis is, is a 'smoke monster' wouldn't any old underground vent do? We have seen the 'smoke monster' take many forms, some human and some like the 'Medusa Spider'. This suggests to me that we still know so very little. It also sounds to me like Nemesis does have 'other form', and that last nights reveal, was only the tip of the iceberg. Still plenty of mystery on this one, folks! Hi Achalli, I think there are a couple of reasons why people are disappointed with the ‘smoke monster’ reveal being Nemesis.

Even though we knew we would be getting answers to the mysteries this season, I still think we were unprepared to have one of the biggest mysteries to Lost, unveiled so quickly. Secondly, I feel there was an expectation that the ‘smoke monster’ was something other than what/who it turned out to be.

There is still soooo much mystery surrounding Nemesis/Smokie. Consider the following conversation between Nemesis and Ben after Nemesis/Smokie finishes off Ilana’s crew in front of Ben.

Ben asks Nemesis “What are you”? Nemesis responds by saying: “it’s not what am I, but who am I….. He also concludes this conversation by telling Ben that he just wants to go home.

That in and of itself is a mystery, when you consider where is home? If all Nemesis is, is a ‘smoke monster’ wouldn’t any old underground vent do?

We have seen the ‘smoke monster’ take many forms, some human and some like the ‘Medusa Spider’. This suggests to me that we still know so very little. It also sounds to me like Nemesis does have ‘other form’, and that last nights reveal, was only the tip of the iceberg.

Still plenty of mystery on this one, folks!

]]> By: ekolocation http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-leash-of-cerberus-revisited/#comment-24198 ekolocation Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:47:55 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8681#comment-24198 well he did dissapear into thin air...its probably a problem of cgi. easier to show it rolling in and out than having it morph into locke and out of locke. they didnt do great cgi work with the underwater island scene... well he did dissapear into thin air…its probably a problem of cgi. easier to show it rolling in and out than having it morph into locke and out of locke. they didnt do great cgi work with the underwater island scene…

]]> By: AngiveL http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-leash-of-cerberus-revisited/#comment-24195 AngiveL Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:39:49 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8681#comment-24195 Hmm, one more thing though, that just hit me - that might actually SUPPORT Achalli's theory! When Flocke went Batman and we heard Cerberus aproaching - I thought He/It would sneek up on them from behind the pillars(It's Cerberus after all - we know/I think anyway - that It's sometimes just a lite whisker of smoke - I've always thought he could go from tiny to giant like that, didn't you too?) but It didn't...! It came barging through the front door, making a grande - and noisy(which It doesn't need to be either - It can go stealth..) In any case, the camera is fixed on Ben as Cerberus leaves, but we clearly hear It making distance.. And as Ben Looked around, slowly making his way out - I expected to find Flocke/Nemesis blocking his way at the dooropening or something like that - coming from where I asume Cerberus left.. So are we to believe that Cerberus/"Nemesis" simply ran off - only to teleport back and sneek up behind Ben(Like, why - I think he's scared shitless already) Though Jacob and Nemesis seems to be each other's opposite's it wouldn't suprise me if they had similar powers - "Teleporting/Vanishing" I have to say, that atleast the bullet they picked up seemed to had hit a wall or something.. I don't know, what do you say - He might be posing as Cerberus - only too make paople fear/obbey him easier or something, I don't know - I just thought it was weird Hmm, one more thing though, that just hit me – that might actually SUPPORT Achalli’s theory! When Flocke went Batman and we heard Cerberus aproaching – I thought He/It would sneek up on them from behind the pillars(It’s Cerberus after all – we know/I think anyway – that It’s sometimes just a lite whisker of smoke – I’ve always thought he could go from tiny to giant like that, didn’t you too?) but It didn’t…! It came barging through the front door, making a grande – and noisy(which It doesn’t need to be either – It can go stealth..) In any case, the camera is fixed on Ben as Cerberus leaves, but we clearly hear It making distance.. And as Ben Looked around, slowly making his way out – I expected to find Flocke/Nemesis blocking his way at the dooropening or something like that – coming from where I asume Cerberus left.. So are we to believe that Cerberus/”Nemesis” simply ran off – only to teleport back and sneek up behind Ben(Like, why – I think he’s scared shitless already) Though Jacob and Nemesis seems to be each other’s opposite’s it wouldn’t suprise me if they had similar powers – “Teleporting/Vanishing” I have to say, that atleast the bullet they picked up seemed to had hit a wall or something.. I don’t know, what do you say – He might be posing as Cerberus – only too make paople fear/obbey him easier or something, I don’t know – I just thought it was weird

]]> By: AngiveL http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-leash-of-cerberus-revisited/#comment-24188 AngiveL Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:24:03 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8681#comment-24188 Yeah, I didn't like it either, but I think we have to face it. Remember, they do hit Flocke/Nemesis once or twice before he does a batman behind the pillars, and then BAAM! I think too much trauma makes him go all HULK! At the beach, Richard seemed to know this, giving order to hold fire, right away - seemingly aware of the danger doing so would mean. It was clear he didn't know WHO it was, but that doesn't mean he(along with oursleves) didn't know WHAT it/he was. It seems clear though that they do indeed have a history - and also basically confirming what many have suspected - Richard was on the Black Rock(Even further linking Cerberus/Nemesis together(Damn I Want a Name!) So,(even though I thought/hoped differently)I think it's pretty damn sure they're One and the Same Yeah, I didn’t like it either, but I think we have to face it. Remember, they do hit Flocke/Nemesis once or twice before he does a batman behind the pillars, and then BAAM!
I think too much trauma makes him go all HULK! At the beach, Richard seemed to know this, giving order to hold fire, right away – seemingly aware of the danger doing so would mean. It was clear he didn’t know WHO it was, but that doesn’t mean he(along with oursleves) didn’t know WHAT it/he was.
It seems clear though that they do indeed have a history – and also basically confirming what many have suspected – Richard was on the Black Rock(Even further linking Cerberus/Nemesis together(Damn I Want a Name!) So,(even though I thought/hoped differently)I think it’s pretty damn sure they’re One and the Same

]]> By: highbrow http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/the-leash-of-cerberus-revisited/#comment-24166 highbrow Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:53:43 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=8681#comment-24166 I don't like that Focke and Smokie are the same thing either... There was a lot of evidence to support it before last night's episode and I ignored it because I didn't like the idea of them being the same... but I think the episode from last night was pretty definitive. Focke and Smokie are the same thing. I don’t like that Focke and Smokie are the same thing either… There was a lot of evidence to support it before last night’s episode and I ignored it because I didn’t like the idea of them being the same… but I think the episode from last night was pretty definitive. Focke and Smokie are the same thing.

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