<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: What we learned from &#8220;What Kate Does&#8221;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/what-we-learned-from-what-kate-does/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/what-we-learned-from-what-kate-does/</link>
	<description>A place to write and read Lost Theories</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 19:43:17 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/what-we-learned-from-what-kate-does/#comment-26265</link>
		<dc:creator>kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9568#comment-26265</guid>
		<description>I have about one minute to post, but I am looking forward to coming back in a bit to follow up on a few of these thoughts. Thanks so much everyone!

Here&#039;s what crossed my mind this morning...

Is it possible that the vial of sand that Richard brought to young Locke as one of the objects was actually ASH instead of sand? 

Wouldn&#039;t that make the ash connection that much more interesting? 

I know that Lostpedia says it&#039;s sand, and we have generally thought sand to represent the island...but I am going out on a limb and thinking it could be ash. 

I have to rewatch the scene with this at some point. 

BTW - Roland, good thoughts on bringing Ilana back into the mix! She definitely needs to be explained, but I like how you pointed out that she potentially looks very different now than she might have before. Good call!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have about one minute to post, but I am looking forward to coming back in a bit to follow up on a few of these thoughts. Thanks so much everyone!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what crossed my mind this morning&#8230;</p>
<p>Is it possible that the vial of sand that Richard brought to young Locke as one of the objects was actually ASH instead of sand? </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t that make the ash connection that much more interesting? </p>
<p>I know that Lostpedia says it&#8217;s sand, and we have generally thought sand to represent the island&#8230;but I am going out on a limb and thinking it could be ash. </p>
<p>I have to rewatch the scene with this at some point. </p>
<p>BTW &#8211; Roland, good thoughts on bringing Ilana back into the mix! She definitely needs to be explained, but I like how you pointed out that she potentially looks very different now than she might have before. Good call!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: stone</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/what-we-learned-from-what-kate-does/#comment-26258</link>
		<dc:creator>stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9568#comment-26258</guid>
		<description>Nice post as always :)

I have been thinking about what Dogen said to Jack about Sayid. He said &quot;Thereâ€™s a darkness growing in him. And once it reaches his heart, everything your friend once was will be gone.&quot; 

I have the feeling there&#039;s something to that sentence, because everything Sayid once was, was, in particular, a torturer and killer. At least that&#039;s what the writers made clear to us.

Could it be that it actually means exactly the same as &quot;he will lose his innocence&quot; (Ben)? As we all know, Ben has a very dark side to him. 

It would mean that Richard is responsible for the growing darkness inside Ben, and that he could very well be in cahoots with MIB/Smokey/Darkside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post as always <img src='http://www.theoriesonlost.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have been thinking about what Dogen said to Jack about Sayid. He said &#8220;Thereâ€™s a darkness growing in him. And once it reaches his heart, everything your friend once was will be gone.&#8221; </p>
<p>I have the feeling there&#8217;s something to that sentence, because everything Sayid once was, was, in particular, a torturer and killer. At least that&#8217;s what the writers made clear to us.</p>
<p>Could it be that it actually means exactly the same as &#8220;he will lose his innocence&#8221; (Ben)? As we all know, Ben has a very dark side to him. </p>
<p>It would mean that Richard is responsible for the growing darkness inside Ben, and that he could very well be in cahoots with MIB/Smokey/Darkside.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dabiatchishere</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/what-we-learned-from-what-kate-does/#comment-26221</link>
		<dc:creator>dabiatchishere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 03:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9568#comment-26221</guid>
		<description>Hi kimberly, I am reminded by one other thing about Kate.  In Kate&#039;s former life, her decisions for herself and other people were based upon her own needs, and not on the needs of other people.  As, in killing Wayne.  That was not her mothers wishes.  She chose for her, because she thought it was right.

She took Aaron because it was what she wanted and needed.  Now, she has chosen to be &#039;selfless&#039; and is making choices in the best interest of others, specifically Claire and Aaron.  By doing this, I think Kate will end up finding the peace which has alluded her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi kimberly, I am reminded by one other thing about Kate.  In Kate&#8217;s former life, her decisions for herself and other people were based upon her own needs, and not on the needs of other people.  As, in killing Wayne.  That was not her mothers wishes.  She chose for her, because she thought it was right.</p>
<p>She took Aaron because it was what she wanted and needed.  Now, she has chosen to be &#8216;selfless&#8217; and is making choices in the best interest of others, specifically Claire and Aaron.  By doing this, I think Kate will end up finding the peace which has alluded her.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/what-we-learned-from-what-kate-does/#comment-26220</link>
		<dc:creator>kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 03:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9568#comment-26220</guid>
		<description>Side note: my comments are taking forever to post, so sorry they seem out of order in the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Side note: my comments are taking forever to post, so sorry they seem out of order in the discussion.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/what-we-learned-from-what-kate-does/#comment-26219</link>
		<dc:creator>kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 03:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9568#comment-26219</guid>
		<description>Wow AES, I think you commented as I was writing about the island-triangle thing, too. Funny timing and no wonder it&#039;s familiar. 

It makes sense because if she is finally living beyond herself (as in no longer protecting herself under the guise of protecting others) then it is very similar to Jack finally living up to his &#039;destiny&#039; and I see how these two roles will be so significant to the &quot;sides&quot; among the Losties on the island. And besides, it&#039;s not only Jack living up to his destiny (as opposed to thinking he can control everyone else&#039;s) but that is really going to be the ultimate question for all the remaining Losties - even (dead) Locke. 

For some reason Ben&#039;s line &quot;Destiny is a fickle bitch...&quot; is what comes to mind as I keep thinking about Kate and her destiny... yes she&#039;s been fickle, but I think the implications of fickle meaning &#039;unpredictable&#039; is nagging at me with her.

Thanks for the comments and continued discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow AES, I think you commented as I was writing about the island-triangle thing, too. Funny timing and no wonder it&#8217;s familiar. </p>
<p>It makes sense because if she is finally living beyond herself (as in no longer protecting herself under the guise of protecting others) then it is very similar to Jack finally living up to his &#8216;destiny&#8217; and I see how these two roles will be so significant to the &#8220;sides&#8221; among the Losties on the island. And besides, it&#8217;s not only Jack living up to his destiny (as opposed to thinking he can control everyone else&#8217;s) but that is really going to be the ultimate question for all the remaining Losties &#8211; even (dead) Locke. </p>
<p>For some reason Ben&#8217;s line &#8220;Destiny is a fickle bitch&#8230;&#8221; is what comes to mind as I keep thinking about Kate and her destiny&#8230; yes she&#8217;s been fickle, but I think the implications of fickle meaning &#8216;unpredictable&#8217; is nagging at me with her.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments and continued discussion!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Roland</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/what-we-learned-from-what-kate-does/#comment-26218</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 03:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9568#comment-26218</guid>
		<description>As you guys say Kate is still a big mystery. So is another woman on the Island, Ilana. Situations all seem to relate to one another; Ben and Whidmore, Jacob and Nemesis not being able to kill each other. The way situations seem to mirror each other in the two different timelines/ realities we are watching. I&#039;m know there are lots of examples but I&#039;m tired and not willing to look things up right now. Dabs brought up this idea months ago. At the time it hit me that Jacob and Ilanas little chat reminded me very much of Jack and Kates relationship. 
Now I&#039;m thinking Jack, Sawyer, and Kates triangle may be mirroring something that happened in Jacob, Nemesis and Ilanas past. The only thing is, Nemesis didn&#039;t recognize her when he came out of the temple. Which may not mean anything, Ilana might not have looked as she does now. I&#039;m a little Ilana obsessed. Who the hell is she? Her and Kate have a strong character resemblance to one another. Both are very strong woman who seem to get the things they want done by themselves not relying on someone else to do it for them. I think if we find out more of one we will know more about the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you guys say Kate is still a big mystery. So is another woman on the Island, Ilana. Situations all seem to relate to one another; Ben and Whidmore, Jacob and Nemesis not being able to kill each other. The way situations seem to mirror each other in the two different timelines/ realities we are watching. I&#8217;m know there are lots of examples but I&#8217;m tired and not willing to look things up right now. Dabs brought up this idea months ago. At the time it hit me that Jacob and Ilanas little chat reminded me very much of Jack and Kates relationship.<br />
Now I&#8217;m thinking Jack, Sawyer, and Kates triangle may be mirroring something that happened in Jacob, Nemesis and Ilanas past. The only thing is, Nemesis didn&#8217;t recognize her when he came out of the temple. Which may not mean anything, Ilana might not have looked as she does now. I&#8217;m a little Ilana obsessed. Who the hell is she? Her and Kate have a strong character resemblance to one another. Both are very strong woman who seem to get the things they want done by themselves not relying on someone else to do it for them. I think if we find out more of one we will know more about the other.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/what-we-learned-from-what-kate-does/#comment-26211</link>
		<dc:creator>kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 03:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9568#comment-26211</guid>
		<description>I know that a lot of emphasis has been put on the little love triangle between Kate-Sawyer-Jack -- but I do find it interesting that this emphasis was put on her at the same time we see Sawyer headed one direction while Jack is very much headed another. It brings her role into that much more tension and ultimate power between the sides that will come out in the days ahead.

We finally saw in both timelines where Kate is finally running &quot;to&quot; something rather than &quot;away&quot; from her circumstances or as you (Dabs) point out, herself. Her acknowledgment of it in this episode felt a lot like Jack&#039;s acknowledgment of his trust issues and him not trusting himself. I would think that this kind of acceptance or &#039;letting go&#039; is key to them (and us) figuring out the bigger picture, or what they are &#039;destined&#039; to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that a lot of emphasis has been put on the little love triangle between Kate-Sawyer-Jack &#8212; but I do find it interesting that this emphasis was put on her at the same time we see Sawyer headed one direction while Jack is very much headed another. It brings her role into that much more tension and ultimate power between the sides that will come out in the days ahead.</p>
<p>We finally saw in both timelines where Kate is finally running &#8220;to&#8221; something rather than &#8220;away&#8221; from her circumstances or as you (Dabs) point out, herself. Her acknowledgment of it in this episode felt a lot like Jack&#8217;s acknowledgment of his trust issues and him not trusting himself. I would think that this kind of acceptance or &#8216;letting go&#8217; is key to them (and us) figuring out the bigger picture, or what they are &#8216;destined&#8217; to do.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: A.E.S.</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/what-we-learned-from-what-kate-does/#comment-26209</link>
		<dc:creator>A.E.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 03:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9568#comment-26209</guid>
		<description>Oh...I hope you didnt take the &quot;...post sooner&quot; comment the wrong way. I was focused on other things and never got in line with combating the people who felt this episode meaningless.

I was happy to see you tackle many of the issues you caught that many missed, and even a few that I didnt think anyone got...one being Jack touching Sayid, and possibly saving him. Great job summerizing as well.

The Jack and Sayid thing...that will be one of those argument starters once wind picks it up...

I can say that viewing this from 2 womens perspective makes understanding Kates story easier, and I am serious with that comment.

Its interesting. Sawyers babys momman says the very same thing about why she lied about Aaron...she needed someone to give her life purpose. Sawyer left her, she picked up Aaron...and Jack briefly.
But the point is, she has always been selfish in that manner.
By her doing this...attempting to help Claire keep Aaron, gives her life purpose that benefits someone else.

I did talk about Kates meaning Kim...I believe it was something along the lines of her being more than the bottom of an on island triangle...She has to have some great meaning...some very large role.

I like this theory a lot, and have to go over all the points again, but it is great to have out before the new episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh&#8230;I hope you didnt take the &#8220;&#8230;post sooner&#8221; comment the wrong way. I was focused on other things and never got in line with combating the people who felt this episode meaningless.</p>
<p>I was happy to see you tackle many of the issues you caught that many missed, and even a few that I didnt think anyone got&#8230;one being Jack touching Sayid, and possibly saving him. Great job summerizing as well.</p>
<p>The Jack and Sayid thing&#8230;that will be one of those argument starters once wind picks it up&#8230;</p>
<p>I can say that viewing this from 2 womens perspective makes understanding Kates story easier, and I am serious with that comment.</p>
<p>Its interesting. Sawyers babys momman says the very same thing about why she lied about Aaron&#8230;she needed someone to give her life purpose. Sawyer left her, she picked up Aaron&#8230;and Jack briefly.<br />
But the point is, she has always been selfish in that manner.<br />
By her doing this&#8230;attempting to help Claire keep Aaron, gives her life purpose that benefits someone else.</p>
<p>I did talk about Kates meaning Kim&#8230;I believe it was something along the lines of her being more than the bottom of an on island triangle&#8230;She has to have some great meaning&#8230;some very large role.</p>
<p>I like this theory a lot, and have to go over all the points again, but it is great to have out before the new episode.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dabiatchishere</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/what-we-learned-from-what-kate-does/#comment-26205</link>
		<dc:creator>dabiatchishere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9568#comment-26205</guid>
		<description>kimberly, I also walked away from this past episode feeling like Kate is the only character I have little to no insight about.

She is definitely not someone who is easily understood.  I feel I actually know less about her than I did in the beginning, but am not picking up on many of the clues.

I do feel that Kate&#039;s perception of herself was &#039;skewed&#039; and that what she was running from has always been herself.  Perhaps, Aaron&#039;s presence in her life, has given her purpose, beyond herself.

Once again, nice work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kimberly, I also walked away from this past episode feeling like Kate is the only character I have little to no insight about.</p>
<p>She is definitely not someone who is easily understood.  I feel I actually know less about her than I did in the beginning, but am not picking up on many of the clues.</p>
<p>I do feel that Kate&#8217;s perception of herself was &#8216;skewed&#8217; and that what she was running from has always been herself.  Perhaps, Aaron&#8217;s presence in her life, has given her purpose, beyond herself.</p>
<p>Once again, nice work.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/what-we-learned-from-what-kate-does/#comment-26203</link>
		<dc:creator>kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=9568#comment-26203</guid>
		<description>Thanks Dabs! 

I wish I could have posted sooner, but oh well...what happened, happened. ;) 

I seem to remember someone (AES, perhaps?) recently talking about how Kate is still a mystery at this point. Isn&#039;t that interesting that this MAJOR character that she is still leaves us wondering at times, and then this Kate-centric episode is the follow-up to &quot;LA X&quot;? Yes, I would say it&#039;s laden with clues and meaning, and we are probably exactly where the writers want us to be. 

Thanks for the comment, Dabs. I&#039;ll go check out your theory while I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dabs! </p>
<p>I wish I could have posted sooner, but oh well&#8230;what happened, happened. <img src='http://www.theoriesonlost.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I seem to remember someone (AES, perhaps?) recently talking about how Kate is still a mystery at this point. Isn&#8217;t that interesting that this MAJOR character that she is still leaves us wondering at times, and then this Kate-centric episode is the follow-up to &#8220;LA X&#8221;? Yes, I would say it&#8217;s laden with clues and meaning, and we are probably exactly where the writers want us to be. </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment, Dabs. I&#8217;ll go check out your theory while I can.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

