Comments on: Jacob and Esau – Sons of Isaac

By: rockitman88

rockitman88 — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:08:05 +0000

Well, I think you may be correct as far as the biblical tie-in. There are certainly many allusions to the bible, though I think they were mostly associated a few seasons ago with Mr. Eko. Certainly there are themes of sin, righteousness, forgiveness, and redemption which have been repeatedly played out among the central characters. Plus, for me the reference to Adam and Eve, and the use of the names Jacob and Aaron are suggestive that we will end up seeing the entire plot somehow relate to some aspects of the bible. Also, there is that one bizarre edit-in which appeared in at least one of the Dharma films…”God loves you as he loved Jacob”. Why would this clip have been edited in to an orientation film when it is sooooo out of place? I think it was a ploy for the writers to give us all a big hint. And I think that the hint is that the Jacob of Lost Isle may be the Jacob from the bible. If this is really the case, MIB should really be Esau. I find it interesting they have not named MIB yet, though I feel we are close to learning his real name. Whatever the writers of Lost will lay on us, I’m sure we will all be amazed and blown away…at least I hope so. It is too good of a series to have a stupid ending. My own impression is that it will be a very very sad and profound finale which will have us Lost fans in tears come May 23 (for us viewers in America) and blogging about it for months, if not years to come.

By: BiNG

BiNG — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:26:40 +0000

See that Mixen? I know you were lazy at the moment an I totally understand but there were some really great points left out of the theory that can really make it much stronger.

We already have Jacob, Aaron, & a crazy mother that all relate to Lost & this bible story, an now we have some more similarities thanks to itsdesmondbrutha with the cave & the pillar of smoke.

Hmmm remember when Ben is talking with Jacob & mentions something to do with the way Flocke marched up there like he was Moses or something along those lines & Jacob an Flocke look at each other strangely?

I dont think that MIB is Moses or anything but it did seem like Jacob & Flocke both knew of the person Moses, I think they havent given a name to MIB yet because it will be significant in the End and just might turn out to be Esau, Moses, or my #1 top favorite choice Set…Thats his name Set but i’ve also seen it as Seth as well.

By: pilouuuu

pilouuuu — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:38:18 +0000

Wow, great theory. As most people I don’t think it will parallel so closely the religious history, but it was really fun to read and a few of those thing may in fact happen.

I have some doubts though. Maybe MIB name is not Esau. Why did they hide his name? There must be an important reason in terms of story telling. I definitely think that Jacob and MIB are brothers though.

@itsdesmondbrutha

So… Aaron descended from Jacob. It makes me think… I don’t know if this has been mentioned previously, but maybe the Shephard family are descended from Jacob, so that’s why Aaron is so important?

By: itsdesmondbrutha

itsdesmondbrutha — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:07:52 +0000

Mixen – I thouroughly enjoyed your theory! Ever since I heard Jacob’s name – the first thing that came to mind was this biblical story. I love how you’ve tied it all together here!

BiNG – What you said. I’m happy to see some parallels drawn from this ancient story – and have no issues with any religious tie-ins; whether they are ones I’m familiar with or ones I can learn from. I think we all have to see the obvious references with the Shephard family (Christian Shephard! C’mon – it doesn’t get much more in-your-face than that!)

This is a from a comment I posted in response to another theory – but it plays well here also:

Also descended from Jacob is Aaron, brother to Moses. Aaron served as Mosesâ€™ High Priest and spokesman. It was Aaronâ€™s rod/staff that brought on the plagues to Pharoah and his subjects and performed other miracles. Interestingly enough, when it was time for Aaron to die – Moses led him into a cave and told him to lay down on a bed and when he did – his soul departed his body; at that same moment, the pillar of cloud or smoke that had guided the Israelites on their exodus from Egypt disappeared.
3 possible connections here:
1. Aaron
2. body in a cave
3. pillar of smoke

By: ekolocation

ekolocation — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:35:02 +0000

There already is an Isaac in lost. Isaac of Uluuru, the healer Bernard takes Rose to in Australia. He claims he cannot heal her, but another place will.

By: ADayAfar

ADayAfar — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:25:16 +0000

Great, thorough post, Mixen! I have to say I don’t think it will be an out and out Jacob/Esau thing… and though I do enjoy the theories on here about how Judeo-Christian views or even Hindu views frequently appear on the show, I wish there was also someone who was familiar with animism and that kind of thing (this person is clearly not me, though I’m pondering a post on this).

In any case, though many parallels may be drawn to Jacob/Esau and other biblical relationships, a huge prevalent theme here is obviously parent-child relationships… in this way, I think your post makes a lot of good points about birthright, favoritism, and the importance of how you’re shaped as you get older. These are definitely qualities that are prevalent in both Lost and Jacob/Esau’s story.

By: BiNG

BiNG — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:57:47 +0000

I would love it if they somehow made a crazy bible story relevant in todays time, but Mixen why did you say lets just call her Rebekah?

You obviously know that Rebekah was their mother in the story & there were alot of little points and parts of that story that you left out like Rebekah had to disguise Jacob like Esau in order to get the blessing & how she did it.

By: ilieintheshadowofthestatue

ilieintheshadowofthestatue — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:45:15 +0000

Sorry, an old Bible story is simply not good enough for me. I’ll demand my money back! Oh, wait…

By: LostAddict

LostAddict — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:41:51 +0000

Excellent theory! well said.
It is def a father son issue story throughout!
Religion aside, isnt it convenient that the ‘Shepherd’ family is so important! a shepherd is a term used for God. its meaning is also king/leader. A shepherd’s faithful are known as the ‘Flock’ how similar that is to how everyone describes fake Locke – Flocke!
Many religions have prophets who’s livelyhoods were shepherds! so i dont think its fair to say the show is focused on one religion!

By: AmILost

AmILost — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:22:42 +0000

If Lost turns out to be partly or mostly based on a biblical story I have no qualms about it whatsoever. What matters to me is that the show has not only been thoroughly entertaining, it has been so much more on so many different levels. It’s just a TV show for Christ sake! (Oh pardon me, did I just bring Christ into this? How terribly incorrect of me, NOT!…;) )