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		<title>By: A.E.S.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 05:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is...not id...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is&#8230;not id&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A.E.S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.E.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 05:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points on that line in connection with this thought!

That was a great scene between those two. Widmore delivering that line, and Locke delivering &quot;A wise man once said &#039;war id coming to this island&#039;, I think it just got here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points on that line in connection with this thought!</p>
<p>That was a great scene between those two. Widmore delivering that line, and Locke delivering &#8220;A wise man once said &#8216;war id coming to this island&#8217;, I think it just got here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Achalli</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 05:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spinster, I got a little chill when Widmore told Smokey that he knew him from myths and legends.

I agree with you that something bigger is going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spinster, I got a little chill when Widmore told Smokey that he knew him from myths and legends.</p>
<p>I agree with you that something bigger is going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinster</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/jinn/#comment-31545</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 00:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Achalli, I definitely think this is right....l  I&#039;ve told other losties your theory, and they also agree...  It makes so much sense...  

I just still think more is going on the island then Jacob and MIB...  Welcome back Desmond...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Achalli, I definitely think this is right&#8230;.l  I&#8217;ve told other losties your theory, and they also agree&#8230;  It makes so much sense&#8230;  </p>
<p>I just still think more is going on the island then Jacob and MIB&#8230;  Welcome back Desmond&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Achalli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achalli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 05:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grego, I&#039;m glad you like it. It seems to be the most reasonable explanation given what we know so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grego, I&#8217;m glad you like it. It seems to be the most reasonable explanation given what we know so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Achalli</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/jinn/#comment-31101</link>
		<dc:creator>Achalli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 05:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sinster, I apologize for not responding sooner. You&#039;re quite right that this idea clicks in so many ways. The one scene that really sold it to me (not the bottle discussion ) was the scene in Dr. Linus where Smokey snapped his fingers and Ben&#039;s shackles fell of. I&#039;m surprised that many more people have said anything about that scene. It not only stood out to me but it waved a few flags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sinster, I apologize for not responding sooner. You&#8217;re quite right that this idea clicks in so many ways. The one scene that really sold it to me (not the bottle discussion ) was the scene in Dr. Linus where Smokey snapped his fingers and Ben&#8217;s shackles fell of. I&#8217;m surprised that many more people have said anything about that scene. It not only stood out to me but it waved a few flags.</p>
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		<title>By: Grego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this theory it makes a lot of sense when you read up about it, especially when you look back on the episodes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this theory it makes a lot of sense when you read up about it, especially when you look back on the episodes.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinster</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/jinn/#comment-30902</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 18:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing, I definitely think you may be onto something here, and the writers were ALWAYS adamant about denying people&#039;s theories.  I&#039;ve never heard anything like this...  I think you are DEFINITELY onto something here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing, I definitely think you may be onto something here, and the writers were ALWAYS adamant about denying people&#8217;s theories.  I&#8217;ve never heard anything like this&#8230;  I think you are DEFINITELY onto something here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ClaireBlueEyes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to really thank Achalli for bringing this theory to my attention and for his initial findings on it that he shared with us. From what I have found on the Jinn and more and more he stuff I have found seems to be adding up. Most of what we know about Jinnâ€™s seems to be come from the Quâ€™ran and Islamic beliefs. 

In the last episode the devil or Satan was reference quite a bit. Satan was a Jinn and not a fallen angel according to Islam. Satan was the Jinn who refused to fall prostrate before Adam after he was created. He is the leader of evil ones in the world. This is why he must be contained because if he is released then he will lead all that is evil in this world straight to hell. Dogen also said that Flocke is &quot;evil incarnate,â€ and being a Christian myself this immediately made me think of Satan as it is told in the Christian Bible. 

Jinnâ€™s have the ability to choose between good and evil. Dogen said that within everyman lies good and evil. Well, MIB Jinn could have chosen between good and evil and he chose evil and this is why Jacob has tried to show him that there is good because he can come back to the good side, but he has to choose to come back. Some philosophers (both modern and contemporary) claim that the jinn refer to those evil inclinations in the souls of mankind while the angels refer to the good intentions planned by mankind. Jacob is an angel and MIB is a Jinn. Jacob truly believes in the good intentions of man and tries to help in the planning and executing of those good intentions. 

Apparently, humans do not have the ability to see them in their true form.. However, such animals as dogs are believed to be able to see them. Perhaps if they ever bring Vincent back then it will show that he was able to see MIB in his true form all along. Also, the jinn have the ability to take on the shapes of humans and animals. According to Islamic religion, on the day of the battle of Badr, Satan approached the Prophet&#039;s enemies in the form of a man called &#039;Suraqa Ibn Malik&#039; and promised them aid and triumph. This sounds identical to what Flocke did after the Tempel purge. He promised to help those who came with him. He also promised Sawyer that he would aid him in his quest to get off the island. 

The Qur&#039;an tells us that the jinn have been given such power and ability to which humans have no access. Of these great speed is the most significant. We have been told that a stalwart of the jinn promised King Solomon that it would only take him a shorter time than that taken by someone standing from his sitting place to bring the throne of Sheba to Jerusalem. In Ab episode MIB says that he will see Jacob sooner then he thinks, which seems to tie into this ability to speed up progress. 

Muslims believe that for his punishment, Allah sentenced Satan to eternity in Hell. However, at Satan&#039;s request, Allah permitted him to roam the earth and misguide man until the Day of Judgment. MIB Jinn has been misguiding the Losties throughout their journey here. I think the biggest way he has been doing this is through whispers. Jinn and his minions are â€œwhisperersâ€, who whisper into the hearts of men and women, urging them to commit sin. This is where the desire to sin comes from, according to Islam. Maybe the whispers we have been hearing are from MIB and the people who has been able to infect (his minions) whispering to them to commit sins.

Like humans, the jinn cannot go beyond the limits set to them by Allah, for He says in the Qur&#039;an:â€œassembly of jinn and men! If you have power to pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, then pass beyond (them)! But you will never be able to pass them, except with authority (from Allah!)â€(55:33). Jacob said that no one goes in the statute (and Iâ€™m thinking off the island or other places on the island) until he says so. Jacob put Dogen in place and was able to make it so that MIB could not go into the temple until Dogen was dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to really thank Achalli for bringing this theory to my attention and for his initial findings on it that he shared with us. From what I have found on the Jinn and more and more he stuff I have found seems to be adding up. Most of what we know about Jinnâ€™s seems to be come from the Quâ€™ran and Islamic beliefs. </p>
<p>In the last episode the devil or Satan was reference quite a bit. Satan was a Jinn and not a fallen angel according to Islam. Satan was the Jinn who refused to fall prostrate before Adam after he was created. He is the leader of evil ones in the world. This is why he must be contained because if he is released then he will lead all that is evil in this world straight to hell. Dogen also said that Flocke is &#8220;evil incarnate,â€ and being a Christian myself this immediately made me think of Satan as it is told in the Christian Bible. </p>
<p>Jinnâ€™s have the ability to choose between good and evil. Dogen said that within everyman lies good and evil. Well, MIB Jinn could have chosen between good and evil and he chose evil and this is why Jacob has tried to show him that there is good because he can come back to the good side, but he has to choose to come back. Some philosophers (both modern and contemporary) claim that the jinn refer to those evil inclinations in the souls of mankind while the angels refer to the good intentions planned by mankind. Jacob is an angel and MIB is a Jinn. Jacob truly believes in the good intentions of man and tries to help in the planning and executing of those good intentions. </p>
<p>Apparently, humans do not have the ability to see them in their true form.. However, such animals as dogs are believed to be able to see them. Perhaps if they ever bring Vincent back then it will show that he was able to see MIB in his true form all along. Also, the jinn have the ability to take on the shapes of humans and animals. According to Islamic religion, on the day of the battle of Badr, Satan approached the Prophet&#8217;s enemies in the form of a man called &#8216;Suraqa Ibn Malik&#8217; and promised them aid and triumph. This sounds identical to what Flocke did after the Tempel purge. He promised to help those who came with him. He also promised Sawyer that he would aid him in his quest to get off the island. </p>
<p>The Qur&#8217;an tells us that the jinn have been given such power and ability to which humans have no access. Of these great speed is the most significant. We have been told that a stalwart of the jinn promised King Solomon that it would only take him a shorter time than that taken by someone standing from his sitting place to bring the throne of Sheba to Jerusalem. In Ab episode MIB says that he will see Jacob sooner then he thinks, which seems to tie into this ability to speed up progress. </p>
<p>Muslims believe that for his punishment, Allah sentenced Satan to eternity in Hell. However, at Satan&#8217;s request, Allah permitted him to roam the earth and misguide man until the Day of Judgment. MIB Jinn has been misguiding the Losties throughout their journey here. I think the biggest way he has been doing this is through whispers. Jinn and his minions are â€œwhisperersâ€, who whisper into the hearts of men and women, urging them to commit sin. This is where the desire to sin comes from, according to Islam. Maybe the whispers we have been hearing are from MIB and the people who has been able to infect (his minions) whispering to them to commit sins.</p>
<p>Like humans, the jinn cannot go beyond the limits set to them by Allah, for He says in the Qur&#8217;an:â€œassembly of jinn and men! If you have power to pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, then pass beyond (them)! But you will never be able to pass them, except with authority (from Allah!)â€(55:33). Jacob said that no one goes in the statute (and Iâ€™m thinking off the island or other places on the island) until he says so. Jacob put Dogen in place and was able to make it so that MIB could not go into the temple until Dogen was dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Achalli</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/jinn/#comment-30593</link>
		<dc:creator>Achalli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasben, I just discovered monsterpedia and wished I knew about it before. It looks like UT has a wealth of information. In everything I&#039;ve looked at, the Jinn are usually evil.

Loominary, I had the research done well before this episode aired. I just got lucky with the timing. I&#039;m glad you liked it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasben, I just discovered monsterpedia and wished I knew about it before. It looks like UT has a wealth of information. In everything I&#8217;ve looked at, the Jinn are usually evil.</p>
<p>Loominary, I had the research done well before this episode aired. I just got lucky with the timing. I&#8217;m glad you liked it.</p>
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