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		<title>By: A.E.S.</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/locke-and-his-followers/#comment-29178</link>
		<dc:creator>A.E.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that idea...I could deal with two halfs of the same &#039;entity&#039;...not person...that would be fun.

I also thought long ago about a &quot;Meet Joe Black&quot; type of scenario, involving John Locke, except having him trapped as a god not realizing and this whole thing is his journey...wrote a theory on it once on another island actually...I didnt ever write it here for a very good reason...

The two halfs would explain two of the biggest mysteries on the show...why MIB cannot kill Jacob in relatin to &quot;suicide&quot;...and why we never learn the name of MIB yet...

Good topic...I highly reccommend writing a theory or even general discussion, taking this in the direction of &quot;an entity&quot; and not  a man...it owuld be a different spin...I think it would draw a lot of fire and &quot;isaidthats&quot;...but with the right background and info it oculd stand out coming from you...good discussion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that idea&#8230;I could deal with two halfs of the same &#8216;entity&#8217;&#8230;not person&#8230;that would be fun.</p>
<p>I also thought long ago about a &#8220;Meet Joe Black&#8221; type of scenario, involving John Locke, except having him trapped as a god not realizing and this whole thing is his journey&#8230;wrote a theory on it once on another island actually&#8230;I didnt ever write it here for a very good reason&#8230;</p>
<p>The two halfs would explain two of the biggest mysteries on the show&#8230;why MIB cannot kill Jacob in relatin to &#8220;suicide&#8221;&#8230;and why we never learn the name of MIB yet&#8230;</p>
<p>Good topic&#8230;I highly reccommend writing a theory or even general discussion, taking this in the direction of &#8220;an entity&#8221; and not  a man&#8230;it owuld be a different spin&#8230;I think it would draw a lot of fire and &#8220;isaidthats&#8221;&#8230;but with the right background and info it oculd stand out coming from you&#8230;good discussion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: highbrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>highbrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s the same physical person... I don&#039;t think he/they are even people!  I mean, at least one of them can turn himself into a cloud of black smoke for crying out loud!  Why can&#039;t they be two halfs of the same entity and exist separately (physically)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the same physical person&#8230; I don&#8217;t think he/they are even people!  I mean, at least one of them can turn himself into a cloud of black smoke for crying out loud!  Why can&#8217;t they be two halfs of the same entity and exist separately (physically)?</p>
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		<title>By: A.E.S.</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/locke-and-his-followers/#comment-28932</link>
		<dc:creator>A.E.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didnt mean to imply you thought it unlikely either...just didnt know if you had considered the scene with the stones into everything we are seeing now...

I really dont like combining &quot;Fight Club&quot; with &quot;Rant&quot; to make something that is so expected at this point...it would at least be fun to have them both turn out to be versions of Locke...

It makes the idea of not being able to commit suicide even more creepy though...why couldnt Jacob kill MIB, butcause he cant kill himself...nope, just cant buy it for this show...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didnt mean to imply you thought it unlikely either&#8230;just didnt know if you had considered the scene with the stones into everything we are seeing now&#8230;</p>
<p>I really dont like combining &#8220;Fight Club&#8221; with &#8220;Rant&#8221; to make something that is so expected at this point&#8230;it would at least be fun to have them both turn out to be versions of Locke&#8230;</p>
<p>It makes the idea of not being able to commit suicide even more creepy though&#8230;why couldnt Jacob kill MIB, butcause he cant kill himself&#8230;nope, just cant buy it for this show&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: highbrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>highbrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I didn&#039;t mean to imply that I thought it was unlikely.  I don&#039;t think it is.  I do think that Jacob and that other guy are two sides of one thing... and to say they they represent the good and evil side of John Locke... not too out there in my opinion.  Not far out there at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that I thought it was unlikely.  I don&#8217;t think it is.  I do think that Jacob and that other guy are two sides of one thing&#8230; and to say they they represent the good and evil side of John Locke&#8230; not too out there in my opinion.  Not far out there at all.</p>
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		<title>By: A.E.S.</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/locke-and-his-followers/#comment-28879</link>
		<dc:creator>A.E.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is it that unlikely?

Everyone knows who he is...he has been protected by Jacob...and MIB through the hands of Ben killed Jacob...kind of makes him a double agent in a way, no?

He is seen alive and dead in one time line, crippled in another, his form is taken by another entity in the same one he is dead in...

John was the first and only one we know of the survivors to have contact with MIB very early on and survive...He is the savior and the bad guy...the hero and the villian...well, Jacks going to be the hero, but I know you dont want to hear that right now...

If I were to say that MIB and Jacob were the same person, I would say John Locke before anyone else including the two of them...but I really am having trouble buying into &quot;fight club&quot; in a time machine...so well see what happens...good thoughts though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is it that unlikely?</p>
<p>Everyone knows who he is&#8230;he has been protected by Jacob&#8230;and MIB through the hands of Ben killed Jacob&#8230;kind of makes him a double agent in a way, no?</p>
<p>He is seen alive and dead in one time line, crippled in another, his form is taken by another entity in the same one he is dead in&#8230;</p>
<p>John was the first and only one we know of the survivors to have contact with MIB very early on and survive&#8230;He is the savior and the bad guy&#8230;the hero and the villian&#8230;well, Jacks going to be the hero, but I know you dont want to hear that right now&#8230;</p>
<p>If I were to say that MIB and Jacob were the same person, I would say John Locke before anyone else including the two of them&#8230;but I really am having trouble buying into &#8220;fight club&#8221; in a time machine&#8230;so well see what happens&#8230;good thoughts though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: highbrow</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so you&#039;re saying that the show, the island could all be centered around John Locke?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so you&#8217;re saying that the show, the island could all be centered around John Locke?</p>
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		<title>By: A.E.S.</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/locke-and-his-followers/#comment-28681</link>
		<dc:creator>A.E.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way he holds those two stones up on each side of his face...seems to fit...maybe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way he holds those two stones up on each side of his face&#8230;seems to fit&#8230;maybe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A.E.S.</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/locke-and-his-followers/#comment-28680</link>
		<dc:creator>A.E.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok...skipping over a bunch of comments...back to the question you ask at #14...

What if instead of Flocke/MIB and Jacob being the same entity as &quot;Jacob&quot;...why not Jacob and MIB being the two sides of John Locke...?

I believe Locke at the very beginning tells us all that its about 2 different sides, light and dark...what iff they are the two different sides of John?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230;skipping over a bunch of comments&#8230;back to the question you ask at #14&#8230;</p>
<p>What if instead of Flocke/MIB and Jacob being the same entity as &#8220;Jacob&#8221;&#8230;why not Jacob and MIB being the two sides of John Locke&#8230;?</p>
<p>I believe Locke at the very beginning tells us all that its about 2 different sides, light and dark&#8230;what iff they are the two different sides of John?</p>
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		<title>By: kimberly</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll try to keep this short but I doubt it will happen.

I totally agree! No, not totally (disagree with some of the comments) but quite a bit otherwise.

I see how we were meant to pick up on the power of Locke&#039;s &quot;persuasion&quot; in speaking to people. (I can&#039;t help but think of how Satan has been described as the embodiment of lies/deceit... This would imply that anything and everything said is some form of deceit.) The apparent choice between following or death seems to go along with &quot;Evil Incarnate&quot; - I am just not seeing how there is a lot of good in that. It was definitely different than the choices given to Sawyer back in the cave. Which to me implies that Jacob&#039;s only remaining candidates are the 815 Losties and Locke/EI has different rules to play by with them. It&#039;s all about choices once again, and like creepy Sayid said to Dogen, they are hard choices. 

Okay moving on...the best stuff in here is about redemption. 

You said, &quot;He (Sawyer) doesnâ€™t seem to have been taken in by Locke the way Sayid and Claire were. Maybe because he hasnâ€™t died yetâ€¦ or maybe it has something to do with whatâ€™s happened in the other timeline.&quot;

This connection between the two timelines and where redemption is found is so awesome and, as you probably know by now on my other posts, it&#039;s the part of the story I am totally drawn to this season.

We were supposed to see the way that Nadia was encouraging/pleading with Sayid to go do something other than what he was asked to do by her husband (and on island by Locke.) But the crazy thing was in how he did seem to choose the better path, yet Keamy&#039;s guys (and the opportunity to kill them) found him anyway. Same thing on the island. And I think up in the comment section Chief said something like, &quot;Jacob had to have known this would happen.&quot; I agree, I think he did know. I think Sayid was potentially being given yet another opportunity to follow a path in life differently than he had lived previously, but he just couldn&#039;t do it. It&#039;s the same for Sayid in both timelines.

For Hurley, even though there are differences in circumstances between the timelines, his nature and his acceptance of life seems to be consistent. My only complaint about Hurley is/was back in that scene in the Lighthouse when Jack was being a jackass and screaming at Hurley...I wish that Hurley would have punched him and laid him out flat. 

Thanks for not bringing up aliens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll try to keep this short but I doubt it will happen.</p>
<p>I totally agree! No, not totally (disagree with some of the comments) but quite a bit otherwise.</p>
<p>I see how we were meant to pick up on the power of Locke&#8217;s &#8220;persuasion&#8221; in speaking to people. (I can&#8217;t help but think of how Satan has been described as the embodiment of lies/deceit&#8230; This would imply that anything and everything said is some form of deceit.) The apparent choice between following or death seems to go along with &#8220;Evil Incarnate&#8221; &#8211; I am just not seeing how there is a lot of good in that. It was definitely different than the choices given to Sawyer back in the cave. Which to me implies that Jacob&#8217;s only remaining candidates are the 815 Losties and Locke/EI has different rules to play by with them. It&#8217;s all about choices once again, and like creepy Sayid said to Dogen, they are hard choices. </p>
<p>Okay moving on&#8230;the best stuff in here is about redemption. </p>
<p>You said, &#8220;He (Sawyer) doesnâ€™t seem to have been taken in by Locke the way Sayid and Claire were. Maybe because he hasnâ€™t died yetâ€¦ or maybe it has something to do with whatâ€™s happened in the other timeline.&#8221;</p>
<p>This connection between the two timelines and where redemption is found is so awesome and, as you probably know by now on my other posts, it&#8217;s the part of the story I am totally drawn to this season.</p>
<p>We were supposed to see the way that Nadia was encouraging/pleading with Sayid to go do something other than what he was asked to do by her husband (and on island by Locke.) But the crazy thing was in how he did seem to choose the better path, yet Keamy&#8217;s guys (and the opportunity to kill them) found him anyway. Same thing on the island. And I think up in the comment section Chief said something like, &#8220;Jacob had to have known this would happen.&#8221; I agree, I think he did know. I think Sayid was potentially being given yet another opportunity to follow a path in life differently than he had lived previously, but he just couldn&#8217;t do it. It&#8217;s the same for Sayid in both timelines.</p>
<p>For Hurley, even though there are differences in circumstances between the timelines, his nature and his acceptance of life seems to be consistent. My only complaint about Hurley is/was back in that scene in the Lighthouse when Jack was being a jackass and screaming at Hurley&#8230;I wish that Hurley would have punched him and laid him out flat. </p>
<p>Thanks for not bringing up aliens.</p>
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		<title>By: shephards_flocke</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think unless what Jacobs been up to really is for the greater good, then i think Jacob and MIB are both about as bad as eachother.
They&#039;re both playing God, and thats never a good thing.

I agree Highbrow, it seems they&#039;re both two sides of the same coin, they both use similar tactics, but hopefully Jacobs cause will be a good one.

That being said, if the mighty morphin&#039; smoke monster turns out to be the goodguy, i praise the writers for their originality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think unless what Jacobs been up to really is for the greater good, then i think Jacob and MIB are both about as bad as eachother.<br />
They&#8217;re both playing God, and thats never a good thing.</p>
<p>I agree Highbrow, it seems they&#8217;re both two sides of the same coin, they both use similar tactics, but hopefully Jacobs cause will be a good one.</p>
<p>That being said, if the mighty morphin&#8217; smoke monster turns out to be the goodguy, i praise the writers for their originality.</p>
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