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		<title>By: brothergib</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/smokeys-past-present-and-future/#comment-28794</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Username. I certainly don&#039;t regard myself as more qualified than anyone else to talk about consciousness. My point is that science really can&#039;t explain aspects of consciousness. As a result, all opinions are valid and equally evidence based. My opinion is that chemical transmission does not provide the complete answer. I guess Noetic science looks into this area to a certain degree.

Odette. My understanding is that we will be told what the Island is. I suspect it is something abstract. Could be something that actually influences the behaviour of humanity depending on how dominant Smokey is on the Island. There may also be an allegorical explanation. It may be a representation of our subconcious, with good and evil battling to determine how we behave. This would also link to why the Island is difficult to find - it is our subconcious. Another supportive piece of evidence for this are all the links to Alice in Wonderland which is all about the essence of &#039;reality&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Username. I certainly don&#8217;t regard myself as more qualified than anyone else to talk about consciousness. My point is that science really can&#8217;t explain aspects of consciousness. As a result, all opinions are valid and equally evidence based. My opinion is that chemical transmission does not provide the complete answer. I guess Noetic science looks into this area to a certain degree.</p>
<p>Odette. My understanding is that we will be told what the Island is. I suspect it is something abstract. Could be something that actually influences the behaviour of humanity depending on how dominant Smokey is on the Island. There may also be an allegorical explanation. It may be a representation of our subconcious, with good and evil battling to determine how we behave. This would also link to why the Island is difficult to find &#8211; it is our subconcious. Another supportive piece of evidence for this are all the links to Alice in Wonderland which is all about the essence of &#8216;reality&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Odette</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brothergib--I also like the idea of the new timeline that we have seen ocurring after the current island drama is finished.  It seems to me that, so far, the sideways flashes are positive for Jack and Hurley, and negative for Sayid Jin and Locke and nuetral for Kate, which kind of parallels where they are on the island right now.  I am wondering if that is foreshadowing the outcome of the struggle on the island, because it seems as if Jack and Hurley are the last best hope for Jacob right now.  Do you have any ideas about what the island is and why it is difficult to find?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brothergib&#8211;I also like the idea of the new timeline that we have seen ocurring after the current island drama is finished.  It seems to me that, so far, the sideways flashes are positive for Jack and Hurley, and negative for Sayid Jin and Locke and nuetral for Kate, which kind of parallels where they are on the island right now.  I am wondering if that is foreshadowing the outcome of the struggle on the island, because it seems as if Jack and Hurley are the last best hope for Jacob right now.  Do you have any ideas about what the island is and why it is difficult to find?</p>
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		<title>By: username</title>
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		<dc:creator>username</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey brothgib, 

I like your scenario around why Jacob is with MIB on the Island.

With respect to â€œconsciousnessâ€, this is a human term and as such is in my opinion just another term that we try to use to separate us from other species and to make us feel special.  There is no doubt in my mind that all primates exhibit such a concept of â€œconsciousnessâ€ but at different levels and in the end itâ€™s just the neurotransmitters firing in the brain.  Iâ€™m not a &quot;neuroscientist&quot; so it does not make much sense arguing the issue with you on an scientific academia basis.  Iâ€™m surprised that in your field that such a concept is not globally accepted.  Throughout history humans have invented concepts because we could not explain them or because we thought we were special.  But then again, I guess thatâ€™s what LOST is all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey brothgib, </p>
<p>I like your scenario around why Jacob is with MIB on the Island.</p>
<p>With respect to â€œconsciousnessâ€, this is a human term and as such is in my opinion just another term that we try to use to separate us from other species and to make us feel special.  There is no doubt in my mind that all primates exhibit such a concept of â€œconsciousnessâ€ but at different levels and in the end itâ€™s just the neurotransmitters firing in the brain.  Iâ€™m not a &#8220;neuroscientist&#8221; so it does not make much sense arguing the issue with you on an scientific academia basis.  Iâ€™m surprised that in your field that such a concept is not globally accepted.  Throughout history humans have invented concepts because we could not explain them or because we thought we were special.  But then again, I guess thatâ€™s what LOST is all about.</p>
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		<title>By: brothergib</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ilieintheshadowofthestatue. Yes, I guess the infection would spread. The infection seems to bring out the very worst in people, which would lead to a very destructive period for the outside world, culminating in its demise.

Username. It can not categorically be stated that humans are no different from other forms of life. My other life is as a neuroscientist, and I can tell you that there is no generally accepted view on consciousness. We certainly cannot completely explain it by neurotransmitter firing in the brain. With regard to Jacob/MIB, I agree that there is something else. They may well have been brothers. Is it possible they were both from Egypt, and it is MIB who somehow mutated? into the Smoke Monster. Maybe he came into contact with this primordial evil entity? He was banished to the Island, and Jacob (as his brother) agreed to keep watch over him?

Joshcgs. I don&#039;t think Jacob made Smokey, but it is possible he arose on the Island - not sure how that would explain Smokey&#039;s desire to go home!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilieintheshadowofthestatue. Yes, I guess the infection would spread. The infection seems to bring out the very worst in people, which would lead to a very destructive period for the outside world, culminating in its demise.</p>
<p>Username. It can not categorically be stated that humans are no different from other forms of life. My other life is as a neuroscientist, and I can tell you that there is no generally accepted view on consciousness. We certainly cannot completely explain it by neurotransmitter firing in the brain. With regard to Jacob/MIB, I agree that there is something else. They may well have been brothers. Is it possible they were both from Egypt, and it is MIB who somehow mutated? into the Smoke Monster. Maybe he came into contact with this primordial evil entity? He was banished to the Island, and Jacob (as his brother) agreed to keep watch over him?</p>
<p>Joshcgs. I don&#8217;t think Jacob made Smokey, but it is possible he arose on the Island &#8211; not sure how that would explain Smokey&#8217;s desire to go home!</p>
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		<title>By: Joshcgs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you think Jacob referred to Smokey as an &#039;old friend&#039; 

In the S5 finale they sat down together, Jacob offered him food, he said he had EATEN!  MIB even said that has experienced love.  

I think whatever happened to MIB that made him so evil &amp; smokey happened on that island at the hand of Jacob - or possibly a 3rd party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you think Jacob referred to Smokey as an &#8216;old friend&#8217; </p>
<p>In the S5 finale they sat down together, Jacob offered him food, he said he had EATEN!  MIB even said that has experienced love.  </p>
<p>I think whatever happened to MIB that made him so evil &amp; smokey happened on that island at the hand of Jacob &#8211; or possibly a 3rd party.</p>
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		<title>By: wharfrat77</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awesome post, awesome comments. I&#039;m going to use some of these thoughts and theories in my own Record theory. good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome post, awesome comments. I&#8217;m going to use some of these thoughts and theories in my own Record theory. good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: username</title>
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		<dc:creator>username</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great theory.

Scientifically thought is not necessarily energy.  In actuality thought is just a neurological phenomena as produced by our brains/neurons.  There is nothing special about human verses animal or plant life, it&#039;s just that are brains are wired more complicated. 

I&#039;m still holding on to Smokey being Jacob&#039;s brother and both are/were human as MIB so eloquently put it.  Matter of fact, we have seen it with our own eyes in Season 5 finale.  Both Jacob and MIB had human form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great theory.</p>
<p>Scientifically thought is not necessarily energy.  In actuality thought is just a neurological phenomena as produced by our brains/neurons.  There is nothing special about human verses animal or plant life, it&#8217;s just that are brains are wired more complicated. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still holding on to Smokey being Jacob&#8217;s brother and both are/were human as MIB so eloquently put it.  Matter of fact, we have seen it with our own eyes in Season 5 finale.  Both Jacob and MIB had human form.</p>
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		<title>By: ilieintheshadowofthestatue</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nicely put together theory. I guess Dogen already told us that Smokey is evil incarnate, but I&#039;ve never actually thought of Smokey as a cloud of evil thoughts before.

However, is it correctly understood that according to your theory, Smokey only represents a finite amount of evil - not all evil in the world? I suppose so, since there has been evil going on in the outside world ever since Smokey was supposedly trapped on the Island by the Egyptians.

So what will happen if Smokey escapes? Exactly how much more evil will the rest of the world become? Will he bring the infection to the outside world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nicely put together theory. I guess Dogen already told us that Smokey is evil incarnate, but I&#8217;ve never actually thought of Smokey as a cloud of evil thoughts before.</p>
<p>However, is it correctly understood that according to your theory, Smokey only represents a finite amount of evil &#8211; not all evil in the world? I suppose so, since there has been evil going on in the outside world ever since Smokey was supposedly trapped on the Island by the Egyptians.</p>
<p>So what will happen if Smokey escapes? Exactly how much more evil will the rest of the world become? Will he bring the infection to the outside world?</p>
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		<title>By: brothergib</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henrygale108 - I totally agree. This is a sleight of hand by Carlton and Damon! I think if we were to view this chronologically we would watch the on Island events play out, and end with the sinking of the Island and then the world would reset as suggested by wharfrat, and then we see the alternate timeline occur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henrygale108 &#8211; I totally agree. This is a sleight of hand by Carlton and Damon! I think if we were to view this chronologically we would watch the on Island events play out, and end with the sinking of the Island and then the world would reset as suggested by wharfrat, and then we see the alternate timeline occur.</p>
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		<title>By: brothergib</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wharfrat - read your other post. Impressive stuff. With regard to the &#039;candidates&#039;, I suspect that Smokey is going to try and corrupt them and turn them on each other. I wonder if we will see Losties killing each other in future episodes!! If he gets rid of them all, he knows he cannot be harmed.

Chiefof16 - When Hurley appeared in the alt timeline to help Locke, he was dressed in black, and I wondered if he was now the MIB, but a good version. He just sad a sort of otherworldliness to him. Not sure I think that anymore, but it might be something to think about!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wharfrat &#8211; read your other post. Impressive stuff. With regard to the &#8216;candidates&#8217;, I suspect that Smokey is going to try and corrupt them and turn them on each other. I wonder if we will see Losties killing each other in future episodes!! If he gets rid of them all, he knows he cannot be harmed.</p>
<p>Chiefof16 &#8211; When Hurley appeared in the alt timeline to help Locke, he was dressed in black, and I wondered if he was now the MIB, but a good version. He just sad a sort of otherworldliness to him. Not sure I think that anymore, but it might be something to think about!!</p>
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