Comments on: The Loophole and how MIB was wrong http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/the-loophole-and-how-mib-was-wrong/ A place to write and read Lost Theories Thu, 17 May 2012 19:43:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: obsessedWlost http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/the-loophole-and-how-mib-was-wrong/#comment-30088 obsessedWlost Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:51:32 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=11275#comment-30088 sawyergirl- weren't the electricity post thingys set up by dharma to keep smoky out? good point thou we didnt actually physically see smoky in the 70s, hummmm you got me thinking on something else now. since jacob and mib existed from way back in the day (assuming that time moves linearly) and we dont see smoky in the 70s i am assuming that mib wasnt always in the form of smoky, which leads me to believe that as some people have stated on here smoky is probably some technological thing created after the 70s? sawyergirl- weren’t the electricity post thingys set up by dharma to keep smoky out? good point thou we didnt actually physically see smoky in the 70s, hummmm you got me thinking on something else now. since jacob and mib existed from way back in the day (assuming that time moves linearly) and we dont see smoky in the 70s i am assuming that mib wasnt always in the form of smoky, which leads me to believe that as some people have stated on here smoky is probably some technological thing created after the 70s?

]]> By: locked http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/the-loophole-and-how-mib-was-wrong/#comment-30072 locked Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:08:41 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=11275#comment-30072 Just to point out that the 360 names on the Lighthouse weren't exactly substitutes but just people that Jacob felt were special and was watching. I doubt Ben is a substitute but it could be one of the six, don't know. One thing that I have a hard time to buy is that cave that according to Flock use to belong to Jacob. Something tells me that the cave was his and that the one crossing the names was himself as soon as he got rid of one of Jacobs candidates. Just to point out that the 360 names on the Lighthouse weren’t exactly substitutes but just people that Jacob felt were special and was watching.

I doubt Ben is a substitute but it could be one of the six, don’t know.

One thing that I have a hard time to buy is that cave that according to Flock use to belong to Jacob. Something tells me that the cave was his and that the one crossing the names was himself as soon as he got rid of one of Jacobs candidates.

]]> By: locked http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/the-loophole-and-how-mib-was-wrong/#comment-30068 locked Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:40:08 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=11275#comment-30068 I'm starting to think that Flocke can't really kill Jacob and that Jacob can't really kill Flocke. They at beast can destroy the bodies the other one is using (something that is yet badly explained since they are basically clones). Now I ask if Richard was touched by Jacob and for that he is unable to die wouldn't the remaining six candidates be as well? Including Locke? The Jacob from the Bible tales can be interpreted basically as a con man. And since Flocke points that he had issues with his mom and Bible's Jacob was the favorite of his mother by not from his father and all the substitutes have dad issues I think there is a parallel right there. And if true than I think Jacob is just doing what Sawyer would call the "long con". Anyway... as usual I'm lost ;) I’m starting to think that Flocke can’t really kill Jacob and that Jacob can’t really kill Flocke. They at beast can destroy the bodies the other one is using (something that is yet badly explained since they are basically clones).

Now I ask if Richard was touched by Jacob and for that he is unable to die wouldn’t the remaining six candidates be as well?

Including Locke?

The Jacob from the Bible tales can be interpreted basically as a con man. And since Flocke points that he had issues with his mom and Bible’s Jacob was the favorite of his mother by not from his father and all the substitutes have dad issues I think there is a parallel right there. And if true than I think Jacob is just doing what Sawyer would call the “long con”.

Anyway… as usual I’m lost ;)

]]> By: SawyersGirl45 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/the-loophole-and-how-mib-was-wrong/#comment-30053 SawyersGirl45 Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:27:35 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=11275#comment-30053 ObsessedWlost - ahh but if you think about it we had no sight or even any mention of smokey in the 70s so maybe he really didnt know.. I dont know.. i dont even know what i think anymore :( ObsessedWlost – ahh but if you think about it we had no sight or even any mention of smokey in the 70s so maybe he really didnt know..

I dont know.. i dont even know what i think anymore :(

]]> By: obsessedWlost http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/the-loophole-and-how-mib-was-wrong/#comment-30052 obsessedWlost Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:24:00 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=11275#comment-30052 this is def an original idea, hadnt thought of it that way. but cant say i agree with it since we know nothing about what the rules are, also we dont really know who the real candidates are. and i think you are giving mib too little credit, i feel like he would know if the losties were in the past. i do like that you are thinking outside of what everyone else has been saying here. @monini the numbers as seat numbers in the plane! great idea, im kinda loving it, i was thinking why they were assigned those specific numbers. what throws me off is the other people that werent on the plane had numbers too this is def an original idea, hadnt thought of it that way. but cant say i agree with it since we know nothing about what the rules are, also we dont really know who the real candidates are. and i think you are giving mib too little credit, i feel like he would know if the losties were in the past. i do like that you are thinking outside of what everyone else has been saying here.

@monini the numbers as seat numbers in the plane! great idea, im kinda loving it, i was thinking why they were assigned those specific numbers. what throws me off is the other people that werent on the plane had numbers too

]]> By: SawyersGirl45 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/the-loophole-and-how-mib-was-wrong/#comment-30042 SawyersGirl45 Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:00:55 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=11275#comment-30042 Hmm considering we know nothing about the rules this is very well thought out! But im agreeing with HenryGale that Kate isnt a candidate.. Even though her name isnt crossed out in the lighthouse, according to Lostpedia, a few other names arent crossed out either.. So taking that she IS crossed out in the cave im assuming shes gone for good.. And if you remember Ilana mentioned Lapidus is a candidate in season 5 so im gonna put him as the 6th :) But again.. Really good thoughts Hmm considering we know nothing about the rules this is very well thought out!

But im agreeing with HenryGale that Kate isnt a candidate.. Even though her name isnt crossed out in the lighthouse, according to Lostpedia, a few other names arent crossed out either.. So taking that she IS crossed out in the cave im assuming shes gone for good.. And if you remember Ilana mentioned Lapidus is a candidate in season 5 so im gonna put him as the 6th :)

But again.. Really good thoughts

]]> By: I_drink_MacCutcheon http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/the-loophole-and-how-mib-was-wrong/#comment-30031 I_drink_MacCutcheon Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:02:52 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=11275#comment-30031 I apologize for the typos in my previous comment, I meant "assuming she's still" and "candidate as that is part of my" I apologize for the typos in my previous comment, I meant “assuming she’s still” and “candidate as that is part of my”

]]> By: I_drink_MacCutcheon http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/the-loophole-and-how-mib-was-wrong/#comment-30029 I_drink_MacCutcheon Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:00:22 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=11275#comment-30029 @henrygale. Kate's name wasn't scratched off on the lighthouse dial, so I'm assuming she still a candidate. Linus was #117 on the dial so I am assuming Ben WAS a candidate. I agree he is no longer a candidate as that his part of my theory. When he killed Jacob, he no longer became a candidate. AS well, Ilana recently said there are 6 left, and as she was there when they buried Locke, I'm sure she knows he's no longer one, so there must be 6 others. @henrygale. Kate’s name wasn’t scratched off on the lighthouse dial, so I’m assuming she still a candidate. Linus was #117 on the dial so I am assuming Ben WAS a candidate. I agree he is no longer a candidate as that his part of my theory. When he killed Jacob, he no longer became a candidate. AS well, Ilana recently said there are 6 left, and as she was there when they buried Locke, I’m sure she knows he’s no longer one, so there must be 6 others.

]]> By: m0nini873 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/the-loophole-and-how-mib-was-wrong/#comment-30021 m0nini873 Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:48:18 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=11275#comment-30021 Hmm, I like your idea. But there is no way to know for sure what the rules are as none of them have really been explicitly stated or explained. I'm not sure about what you're saying about MiB thinking the other candidates are dead...When MiB had Ben kill Jacob, wasn't Sun already back? Additionally, are you saying Ben was a candidate? Lastly, I thought all the names in the cave were names from the plane and seat numbers, and the Losties numbers (4, 8, etc.) coincided with their seats and Hurley's numbers... If the names in the lighthouse are the candidates, what are the names in the cave? Hmm, I like your idea. But there is no way to know for sure what the rules are as none of them have really been explicitly stated or explained. I’m not sure about what you’re saying about MiB thinking the other candidates are dead…When MiB had Ben kill Jacob, wasn’t Sun already back? Additionally, are you saying Ben was a candidate?

Lastly, I thought all the names in the cave were names from the plane and seat numbers, and the Losties numbers (4, 8, etc.) coincided with their seats and Hurley’s numbers… If the names in the lighthouse are the candidates, what are the names in the cave?

]]> By: henrygale108 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/03/the-loophole-and-how-mib-was-wrong/#comment-30019 henrygale108 Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:40:48 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=11275#comment-30019 Kate isn't a remaining candidate... And either is Ben there are 5 names left .. Ford, shephard, Kwon, Reyes, jarrah.... Can prob scratch off jarrah now the 6th was Locke and he scratched it out Kate isn’t a remaining candidate… And either is Ben

there are 5 names left .. Ford, shephard, Kwon, Reyes, jarrah…. Can prob scratch off jarrah now

the 6th was Locke and he scratched it out

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