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The Will to Kill
One question has been bugging me really badly. Why could Ben kill Jacob, but Sayid couldn’t kill Flocke? Well, an answer recently came to me. What was the biggest difference between Ben and Sayid at that point? One thing I noticed was that Ben really wanted to kill Jacob. He was mad and upset, and hated Jacob at that point. Sayid, on the other hand, didn’t seem half as interested in wanting Flocke dead as he was in proving his goodness. And, at that point, Sayid’s scale was tipped towards evil, presumably the side Flocke is on. So, maybe they cannot be killed unless the attacker actually wants them dead. After all, Flocke could’ve made Ben kill Jacob, but he convinced him to manipulatively. So, that’s my idea.
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About Mixen Dixon:
Hey, I'm Mixen Dixon. I'm a somewhat nerdy teenager, being very enthusiastic about theoretical physics and computers (check me out on http://lee-soft.com/forums). LOST is one of my favorite shows. I love to figure out scientific explanations of things that occur in LOST, which is why Daniel Faraday was my fav. character until he died. Too bad.
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@13:20:33
Jacob was still human (in a sense) - a knife to any part of his torso would more than likely be fatal.
Whatever Nemesis is or was, he is now the Smoke Monster. I don’t think that sticking a knife in a pillar full of smoke would do any damage at all. Anyway, we discovered that Dogen knew the knife wouldn’t kill Nemesis, he wanted Sayid to provoke Nemesis into killing him.
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@13:29:02
No not really. Apart from the fact he bleed when stabbed and he looks human. And that hurley can now see him now he’s dead.
Whatever they may be though, they CANNOT be aliens!!!!! please God they just can’t!
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@14:06:05
I think the writers have more posed it to be MIB vs. the island more then Jacob. Jacob was just the current “protector” or what not of the Island and in some fashion was human (like Richard, given a gift). That is why it was fairly straight forward to be able to kill Jacob (with the loophole). But of course the smoke monster is not human, and there may not be a way to kill him – but Dharma, with the pylons, obviously knows something since they can protect themselves.
I’m with I_Am_Jacob…I hope that the MIB is a not an alien or some sort of god.
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@14:16:59
Think about it. Dogen told Sayid not to let Locke speak before he stabbed him. Could it be that Locke speaking was enough to prevent himself from being killed by Sayid. All though, Jacob talked to Ben so who knows.
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@14:29:40
honestly i have no opinion on the topic, i do have a general question thou, how many days ago did you post this? i am just asking because we have the same amount of posts, and i just wanted to know how long it was going to take for my theories to show up since it’s been like 2 days since i posted them
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@14:41:12
I think Dogen only told him that so he would try to stab Locke and piss Locke off to kill Sayid before Locke could recruit him. Dogen refused to kill Sayid himself to keep his balance good but knew Sayid was not good for team Jacob.
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@20:28:57
His words arent magic, he was just saying kill him before he has a chance to talk you out of it.
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@20:49:58
Ok one thing got me thinking.
Sayid couldn’t hear Flocke speak before killing him and was revived on waters that were allegedly from Jacob.
Richard on the other hand was revived by Flocke and couldn’t hear Jacob’s voice before killing him.
This seems like once a person is revived on the island they can have their nature changed as soon as they hear the voice of the opposite force that revived them.
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@12:33:32
@locked, sorry but I’m not following you.
Flocke spoke to Sayid and Sayid clearly heard him then stabbed him and it didn’t work.
Richard didn’t hear Jacob speak, but Jacob went all Chuck Norris on him so it didn’t matter.
Ben definitely heard Jacob speak but was still able to kill him and it wasn’t even the special knife, so maybe Jacob “let” Ben do it?
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