Comments on: Desmond’s Ring

By: elsewhere

elsewhere — Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:04:10 +0000

FYI – This is now looks to be a confirmed continuity error as of April 28, 2010… I would post the link to the Henry Ian Cusick Washington Post interview but, there is one thing in it that is a bit spoilerish… Wish I didn’t read it myself.

He was questioned about the ring on his finger in the LA X plane scene… Henry pretty much states that if he is wearing a ring in that scene in LA X, then it is his own wedding ring… He always removes the ring between takes, but said that he may have forgotten to take it off. So yes, it is an error! Desmond should not be wearing a wedding ring!

By: Clairespeanutbutter

Clairespeanutbutter — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:22:08 +0000

Kimberly, great find!
Sorry about the late response, it seems I missed most of the fun already….
I have read the posts about a possible continuity error, but has there been an ‘official’ word on that? Without an official word (and possibly even with), I’ve got to believe this is intentional (and therefore a hidden clue). I believe even Desmond’s suits don’t match between the two episodes (was that mentioned above?)… so its hard to buy the continuity error….

So – IF the discrepancy real, I can think of four distinct possibilities, some or all of which have already been mentioned (I am sure there are more, but these come to mind):
1 – the alternate reality is based on the perception of the viewer, and what that viewer knows from the true reality
2 – this is the ‘real’ Desmond on the flight, and he flashes in somehow from the ‘true’ reality, even if just temporarily – perhaps the ‘alternate’ Desmond is elsewhere on the flight at the time
3 – there are numerous alternate realities
4 – events in the true reality continue to effect the status of the alternate reality. In other words, Desmond is married when he is on the flight, but an event in the ‘true’ realty somehow changes this.

Not sure which, if any of these, is the actual case, though I’m leaning towards #2 currently….

By: helentink

helentink — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:05:46 +0000

Deadgolf = On Lostpedia it was mentioned that Eloise’s pin was of a similar pattern to Juliet’s “tattoo” when she was branded…

By: Deadgolf

Deadgolf — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:35:18 +0000

speaking of little things I noticed last night. The painting in Widmore’s office was of a scale holding black and white stones. Eloise was wearing a couple of pins on her left lapel that reminded me of the patterns the pendulum made.

By: kimberly

kimberly — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 22:05:39 +0000

DrMrWizard, I have thought about the “rules” too. WIdmore said Desmond is the only one that has survived a catastrophic electromagnetic event…right?

But what happened to Sawyer, Kate, Jack, Hurley, Jin and Miles in LA X? They survived a nuclear explosion that not only caused them to flash ahead/back 30 years, but that explosion could be the source of the Sideways timeline. And last night, Eloise revealed that she is connected to both timelines. So she survived, too. And not only survived, but still is like a ‘seer’ into both timelines. It appears as if she has a “gift” or “talent” as well.

I think I should post this on Highbrow’s post about Des’ powers, too, as I think it fits better there.

By: DrMrWizard

DrMrWizard — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:31:54 +0000

If the ring issue really is just an error on part of the crew, than what is most interesting is how Des behaved at the end of the episode. He seemed very strange. Did he agree to help Widmore because he knew Sayid would be waiting for him in the jungle, or is he just depressed to be back on the Island and doesn’t really care where he goes or what happens to him?
And I agree with Kimberly that Eloise is even more interesting now that we’ve seen her in the sideways world. If she is telling Des he isn’t ready yet, is she planning on trying to change things? Do the rules/some of the rules not apply to her either?

By: kimberly

kimberly — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:07:34 +0000

ilie…nice.

Speaking of Widmore…

The ring isn’t necessarily the most important, most amazing thing that jumped out last night. The episode was so well written, with so many double-meanings in 90% of the statements between characters.

So back to the Widmore family. (Yes, a complete tangent away from the One Ring…)

Sideways WIdmore and Sideways Eloise are very intriguing.

Eloise knows what is going on, while Widmore does not. How significant is that? Especially if the incident that caused the Sideways timeline was started by the bomb explosion in ’77.

Does it mean that Eloise survived the explosion, made it off island (with Daniel’s journal?), found Widmore, married him, accepted that he had another child with another woman, had Daniel, let him pursue music this time around, and ended up in Sidewaysland as the Eloise who has knowledge and existance in both timelines? All while keeping Widmore in the dark about Desmond but knowing full well all about Desmond…? I have no idea.

All I know is that Eloise became very interesting AGAIN last night.

By: ilieintheshadowofthestatue

ilieintheshadowofthestatue — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:47:30 +0000

Let’s say that it wasn’t a wedding ring but a Widmore’s-righthand-man ring.

By: kimberly

kimberly — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:41:52 +0000

I have a hard time just accepting a continuity error when in the case of Sun, they specifically left her ring off. It’s not worth debating I suppose, but I have to agree with Highbrow that until it is declared by the producers an error, then it still leaves the door open. Casual fans have observed a continuity error in that Jack didn’t have a son in the ‘island’ timeline. JUST KIDDING. (Kind of.)

Ultimately the bigger picture is obviously Des’ role in rectifying these two timelines and two ‘versions’ of the characters and their lives. And yes, overall, rings and images of anything that binds one person to another or to a situation have been very significant because of what they represent.

By: Roland

Roland — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:23:38 +0000

That may be a continuity error but rings have been very prominent in the show for a long time. The lack of rings saying the loop (if there ever was one) has been broken. Or they are not unified as they have been before?