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		<title>By: Clairespeanutbutter</title>
		<link>http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/04/duality-dreams-the-candidates-and-the-nature-of-the-alt-2/#comment-33036</link>
		<dc:creator>Clairespeanutbutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 03:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My last comment: Meant to say Michael&#039;s &quot;spirit&quot; was not there (instead of his &quot;island&quot; was not there) before he died. 

I&#039;ve evidently got island on the brain....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My last comment: Meant to say Michael&#8217;s &#8220;spirit&#8221; was not there (instead of his &#8220;island&#8221; was not there) before he died. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve evidently got island on the brain&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Clairespeanutbutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clairespeanutbutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 03:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks all, glad you enjoyed the theory. I must think about Lost too much - I woke up recently from a dream and was like: &#039;hmmm, that seemed real... I wonder if the ALT could be...?&#039;

@ AES - great comments. I&#039;m especially intrigued about your points on Charlie. One thing that I wonder about is how spirits perceive time, and if they are &#039;dead&#039; in the true reality, how does that effect them in the ALT?
I don&#039;t think time is linear for a spirit, but then I think about Michael. He comes to the island alive, eventually dies in the explosion, and his spirit is trapped on the island. Is island was not there before he died - so in a sense, they are at least connected to linear time....
Not sure if that makes sense, but definitely something I&#039;ve been contemplating....

I&#039;ll take a look at the theories you mentioned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks all, glad you enjoyed the theory. I must think about Lost too much &#8211; I woke up recently from a dream and was like: &#8216;hmmm, that seemed real&#8230; I wonder if the ALT could be&#8230;?&#8217;</p>
<p>@ AES &#8211; great comments. I&#8217;m especially intrigued about your points on Charlie. One thing that I wonder about is how spirits perceive time, and if they are &#8216;dead&#8217; in the true reality, how does that effect them in the ALT?<br />
I don&#8217;t think time is linear for a spirit, but then I think about Michael. He comes to the island alive, eventually dies in the explosion, and his spirit is trapped on the island. Is island was not there before he died &#8211; so in a sense, they are at least connected to linear time&#8230;.<br />
Not sure if that makes sense, but definitely something I&#8217;ve been contemplating&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take a look at the theories you mentioned!</p>
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		<title>By: A.E.S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.E.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 16:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah...I have to say I miss theories like this that you actually take something from, while creating a great theory in the process...The research and info was great. The best part is, it was easy to get through and really makes sense putting it to Lost.

We have all had that dream that felt ever so real, and at some point...someone on Lost will hopefully &#039;wake up&#039; soon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;I have to say I miss theories like this that you actually take something from, while creating a great theory in the process&#8230;The research and info was great. The best part is, it was easy to get through and really makes sense putting it to Lost.</p>
<p>We have all had that dream that felt ever so real, and at some point&#8230;someone on Lost will hopefully &#8216;wake up&#8217; soon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ilieintheshadowofthestatue</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilieintheshadowofthestatue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 11:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice theory! And I learnt some things about dreaming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice theory! And I learnt some things about dreaming.</p>
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		<title>By: A.E.S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.E.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CPB...Magnificent theory.

I agree with almost all of it, and Ill get those MINOR things out of the way first...

Bleeding...I dont like the phrase bleeding, because I dont see anything just seeping through. I see more of a flash type of connection than a bleeding, more like in the constant.

This can be triggered by certain things such as love, touch, or even near death experiences.
Its funny the people that fall victim to it usually are connected to or by something familiar, regardless of the way they connected.

Charlie=Claire=Near death/love...

Hurley=Libby=touch/love...

We saw Kate have a change of heart in her decision making after seeing Aarons things in Claires bag...

The odd-ball is Desmond obviously. He has the ability to be connected through an electromagnetic anomaly, as we saw in the hospital during his cat-scan.

So...since the candidates were subjected to something very similar...than who is to say that they couldnt be connected in the same way.
Every single candidate was present during the crash...except Sun, making her possibly either NOT a candidate, THE candidate...or just simply absent for the journey. But by Sun not being part of it, it certainly makes a case for her possibly being one of the first two choices.

Good theory...makes me think...

On the thought about Charlie not realizing he is dead, I think it is more because he is not dead yet in the &quot;parallel&quot; (it is parallel, not &#039;just&#039; alt) he is still alive. 

He saw what would have been happening in 2004 from the timeline we knew in season one.

I wrote a theory a month or two ago saying that when John fell off the chairlift and called for Helen, it was eerily reminiscent of season one when he fell in the jungle and called for her.

I STILL think it is possible, that they could flash back to early in the show, and do things differently...something that many do not agree with. 

The question is, if not...what happens if Charlie dies?

If he just dies, then why would he see Claire? Why wouldnt he see nothing? Hes dead in the on island 2007, and I fully agree that this is NOT a many worlds story...so what then?
Does Charlies spirit rest? Or does he flash back to the old 2004 from early seasons...

Good theory again CPB...

I really love all the dream ideas, and I assure you, I fully understand what you mean.

I wrote a theory a while back called &quot;An Occurrence At Our Parallel Bridge&quot;, and stated flat out that I think the off isalnd time line FSW is not real...and in several theories have even leaned that NOTHING off island is actually real, and that the island is the last place in existance in the world from the time it originally flashed from...in the future...

Great post, so many things I like...

And I promise, my disagreements are miniscule compared to how much I enjoyed the rest of the theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CPB&#8230;Magnificent theory.</p>
<p>I agree with almost all of it, and Ill get those MINOR things out of the way first&#8230;</p>
<p>Bleeding&#8230;I dont like the phrase bleeding, because I dont see anything just seeping through. I see more of a flash type of connection than a bleeding, more like in the constant.</p>
<p>This can be triggered by certain things such as love, touch, or even near death experiences.<br />
Its funny the people that fall victim to it usually are connected to or by something familiar, regardless of the way they connected.</p>
<p>Charlie=Claire=Near death/love&#8230;</p>
<p>Hurley=Libby=touch/love&#8230;</p>
<p>We saw Kate have a change of heart in her decision making after seeing Aarons things in Claires bag&#8230;</p>
<p>The odd-ball is Desmond obviously. He has the ability to be connected through an electromagnetic anomaly, as we saw in the hospital during his cat-scan.</p>
<p>So&#8230;since the candidates were subjected to something very similar&#8230;than who is to say that they couldnt be connected in the same way.<br />
Every single candidate was present during the crash&#8230;except Sun, making her possibly either NOT a candidate, THE candidate&#8230;or just simply absent for the journey. But by Sun not being part of it, it certainly makes a case for her possibly being one of the first two choices.</p>
<p>Good theory&#8230;makes me think&#8230;</p>
<p>On the thought about Charlie not realizing he is dead, I think it is more because he is not dead yet in the &#8220;parallel&#8221; (it is parallel, not &#8216;just&#8217; alt) he is still alive. </p>
<p>He saw what would have been happening in 2004 from the timeline we knew in season one.</p>
<p>I wrote a theory a month or two ago saying that when John fell off the chairlift and called for Helen, it was eerily reminiscent of season one when he fell in the jungle and called for her.</p>
<p>I STILL think it is possible, that they could flash back to early in the show, and do things differently&#8230;something that many do not agree with. </p>
<p>The question is, if not&#8230;what happens if Charlie dies?</p>
<p>If he just dies, then why would he see Claire? Why wouldnt he see nothing? Hes dead in the on island 2007, and I fully agree that this is NOT a many worlds story&#8230;so what then?<br />
Does Charlies spirit rest? Or does he flash back to the old 2004 from early seasons&#8230;</p>
<p>Good theory again CPB&#8230;</p>
<p>I really love all the dream ideas, and I assure you, I fully understand what you mean.</p>
<p>I wrote a theory a while back called &#8220;An Occurrence At Our Parallel Bridge&#8221;, and stated flat out that I think the off isalnd time line FSW is not real&#8230;and in several theories have even leaned that NOTHING off island is actually real, and that the island is the last place in existance in the world from the time it originally flashed from&#8230;in the future&#8230;</p>
<p>Great post, so many things I like&#8230;</p>
<p>And I promise, my disagreements are miniscule compared to how much I enjoyed the rest of the theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Clairespeanutbutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clairespeanutbutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JDW - it&#039;s certainly possible, and seems logical...i&#039;m on the fence at this point, but definitely open to either option right now. 

There are clues for each - everything you pointed out in your comment about the abnormalities of the island vs what was mentioned in this theory about the abnormalities of the ALT.... both are compelling arguments. Either way I think we agree that one of these realities is &quot;consiousness&quot; based, it&#039;s just a matter of figuring out which one....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JDW &#8211; it&#8217;s certainly possible, and seems logical&#8230;i&#8217;m on the fence at this point, but definitely open to either option right now. </p>
<p>There are clues for each &#8211; everything you pointed out in your comment about the abnormalities of the island vs what was mentioned in this theory about the abnormalities of the ALT&#8230;. both are compelling arguments. Either way I think we agree that one of these realities is &#8220;consiousness&#8221; based, it&#8217;s just a matter of figuring out which one&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: JacobsDoubleWide</title>
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		<dc:creator>JacobsDoubleWide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claire, you&#039;ve probably noticed from my recent comments and posts that I am starting to believe that the flash-sideways is the real timeline and the Island is a &quot;fake&quot; timeline.  The flash-sideways is just now being introduced because it is what everyone (knowingly and unknowingly) has been protecting all this time.  The Island can&#039;t be real, how else can people talk to the dead, live forever, travel in time, etc.  So based on this, MIB is trying to escape back to the &quot;real-world&quot;. He is not going to fly there, he is going to crash the plane and kill all candidates and then do whatever he has to do (high dose of EM?) to get to the real world and who knows what will happen then...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claire, you&#8217;ve probably noticed from my recent comments and posts that I am starting to believe that the flash-sideways is the real timeline and the Island is a &#8220;fake&#8221; timeline.  The flash-sideways is just now being introduced because it is what everyone (knowingly and unknowingly) has been protecting all this time.  The Island can&#8217;t be real, how else can people talk to the dead, live forever, travel in time, etc.  So based on this, MIB is trying to escape back to the &#8220;real-world&#8221;. He is not going to fly there, he is going to crash the plane and kill all candidates and then do whatever he has to do (high dose of EM?) to get to the real world and who knows what will happen then&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clairespeanutbutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clairespeanutbutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JDW - yes, took a while to get that one typed out.... i&#039;m not 100% sure which timeline is &quot;real&quot; and which is &quot;consciousness&quot;. 

Typically &quot;consciousness&quot; would bleed into &quot;real&quot; (I think - sort like remembering a dream suddenly).

Since the Island Timeline is bleeding into the Flash-Sideways, that would make the Island &quot;consciousness&quot;. 

But it&#039;s hard for me to make that leap of faith - I have envisioned Nemesis as trying to escape &quot;reality&quot; and using the tactic of a &quot;consciousness&quot; reality as a loophole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JDW &#8211; yes, took a while to get that one typed out&#8230;. i&#8217;m not 100% sure which timeline is &#8220;real&#8221; and which is &#8220;consciousness&#8221;. </p>
<p>Typically &#8220;consciousness&#8221; would bleed into &#8220;real&#8221; (I think &#8211; sort like remembering a dream suddenly).</p>
<p>Since the Island Timeline is bleeding into the Flash-Sideways, that would make the Island &#8220;consciousness&#8221;. </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s hard for me to make that leap of faith &#8211; I have envisioned Nemesis as trying to escape &#8220;reality&#8221; and using the tactic of a &#8220;consciousness&#8221; reality as a loophole.</p>
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		<title>By: JacobsDoubleWide</title>
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		<dc:creator>JacobsDoubleWide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do your finger hurts after that??  nice theory, some good thoughts in there. I definitely agree with one of the timelines being a &quot;consciousness&quot; timeline, I&#039;m just not sure if the Island Time or if the Flash-Sideways is real...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do your finger hurts after that??  nice theory, some good thoughts in there. I definitely agree with one of the timelines being a &#8220;consciousness&#8221; timeline, I&#8217;m just not sure if the Island Time or if the Flash-Sideways is real&#8230;</p>
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