Comments on: Jack – “The Island isn’t done with us yet.” http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/04/jack-the-island-isnt-done-with-us-yet/ A place to write and read Lost Theories Thu, 17 May 2012 19:43:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: nachochris http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/04/jack-the-island-isnt-done-with-us-yet/#comment-33401 nachochris Sat, 08 May 2010 15:12:48 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=12858#comment-33401 So it seems he did want to kill them after all!! But the next question is, how does killing them help smokie get off the island? Jacob says they need to keep him trapped there (bottle scene). So the natural step would be that by killing them = no replacement for Jacob = no dude to trap smokie on the island = smokie free. But surely that just means he can roam the island free as he cant travel across water?? How does he get off the island??? This must tie in to the island time travel etc but ant figure it as we need more info. So it seems he did want to kill them after all!!

But the next question is, how does killing them help smokie get off the island?

Jacob says they need to keep him trapped there (bottle scene).

So the natural step would be that by killing them = no replacement for Jacob = no dude to trap smokie on the island = smokie free.

But surely that just means he can roam the island free as he cant travel across water??

How does he get off the island??? This must tie in to the island time travel etc but ant figure it as we need more info.

]]> By: waycurious http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/04/jack-the-island-isnt-done-with-us-yet/#comment-32955 waycurious Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:51:44 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=12858#comment-32955 With Nacho. He needs them all to BE together ... dead. That's what he did w/all the other 'candidates' Jacob brought (before Alpert). It always ended the same. Richard allowed for just enough manipulation for groups to form ... groups MIB manipulated to fear and destroy each other (no pun intended). I'm with you that Jack just ain't goin' along with the program, though. And that, my friend, may just be progress. With Nacho. He needs them all to BE together … dead. That’s what he did w/all the other ‘candidates’ Jacob brought (before Alpert). It always ended the same.

Richard allowed for just enough manipulation for groups to form … groups MIB manipulated to fear and destroy each other (no pun intended).

I’m with you that Jack just ain’t goin’ along with the program, though. And that, my friend, may just be progress.

]]> By: JacobsDoubleWide http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/04/jack-the-island-isnt-done-with-us-yet/#comment-32950 JacobsDoubleWide Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:03:41 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=12858#comment-32950 I agree, I think Smokie just wants all the candidates dead but he can't kill them himself, but if he gets them all on a plane and richard blows it up then that would do it (this is why he saved Jack and Sawyer, for some reason he needs them to all die together) Maybe if one dies then there is time for a replacement but if they all die at the same time then he would have time to "leave" - which could involve just going back in time to his body or something even more sinister like infecting the world and spreading like a disease...who knows.. I agree, I think Smokie just wants all the candidates dead but he can’t kill them himself, but if he gets them all on a plane and richard blows it up then that would do it (this is why he saved Jack and Sawyer, for some reason he needs them to all die together) Maybe if one dies then there is time for a replacement but if they all die at the same time then he would have time to “leave” – which could involve just going back in time to his body or something even more sinister like infecting the world and spreading like a disease…who knows..

]]> By: nachochris http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/04/jack-the-island-isnt-done-with-us-yet/#comment-32947 nachochris Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:23:13 +0000 http://www.theoriesonlost.com/?p=12858#comment-32947 Definitley. In addition, I do not believe MIB actually wants to leave the island. He says "smokie" can not moe across water. But as Locke's body, he travels in a boat to the other island. A plane would allow him a similiar vessel to get off the island. However, in millions of years he has not been able to get off the island? all these submarines coming and going, boats, planes. In a MILLION years or whatever crazy time period, this all powerful being, that is so caniving and smart has not been able to leave? Weird. Yes, I understand Jacob was stopping him leaving, but it seems strange it took so long. I believe he wants all the people on the plane because he wants to kill them all. This shows why hurley totally did a che guevara on the plan of blowing up the plane!!! He really did not want that plane blown up. Because they would have all died. Smokie/Flocke can not kill these candidates. That is clear. So imagine having to influence so many other people to kill so many other candidates (the losties). Its too much to ask. Why not get them all in one place, and ask Sayid to do them all at once. Seems more efficient no? Then all the numbers will be gone once and for all. Definitley.

In addition, I do not believe MIB actually wants to leave the island.

He says “smokie” can not moe across water. But as Locke’s body, he travels in a boat to the other island.

A plane would allow him a similiar vessel to get off the island. However, in millions of years he has not been able to get off the island? all these submarines coming and going, boats, planes.

In a MILLION years or whatever crazy time period, this all powerful being, that is so caniving and smart has not been able to leave?

Weird.

Yes, I understand Jacob was stopping him leaving, but it seems strange it took so long.

I believe he wants all the people on the plane because he wants to kill them all.

This shows why hurley totally did a che guevara on the plan of blowing up the plane!!! He really did not want that plane blown up. Because they would have all died.

Smokie/Flocke can not kill these candidates. That is clear. So imagine having to influence so many other people to kill so many other candidates (the losties). Its too much to ask. Why not get them all in one place, and ask Sayid to do them all at once. Seems more efficient no? Then all the numbers will be gone once and for all.

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