Comments on: May I Borrow A Cup Of Consciousness?

By: cyan_eyed

cyan_eyed — Sun, 09 May 2010 23:28:03 +0000

I love it Achalli!
So much so, in fact, that it fills the void in a theory i’ve been nuturing since Episode One of Season Six, but which was potentially ruined without this explanation of consciousness traveling.
I invite you to read it if you will, just posted it there now and it’ll be called SchrÃ¶dinger’s Cat when the moderators get round to okaying it.

By: Achalli

Achalli — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:37:36 +0000

AES, here is something to consider. Smokey promised to Sayid to bring Natalia back. The first thing most would assume is that Smokey literally means that He will raise her from the dead, and this is what Sayid did say. But perhaps Smokey really means that he will give Sayid knowledge of the alt Natalia and assure Sayid that a version if her is alive out there somewhere.

By: A.E.S.

A.E.S. — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:33:49 +0000

Good thought there Achalli. But dont forget…where did Juliet end up as result of her access…?
;]

By: Achalli

Achalli — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:29:20 +0000

AES, ha ha, you posted just as I was leaving my last comment.

Very good point but I think that that can be accomplished by simply making Sayid aware of the connection to the alt without him actually going to the alt. Desmond just needs to show them how to access the information. Remember Juliet accessed the information from the alt universe without going to it.

By: Achalli

Achalli — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:21:33 +0000

Roland, alt universe are a tricky concept to deal with. I like your idea but not sure if I agree with it. It’s still a good idea any ways.

I’m going to take this moment to explain how I view all the flashbacks, flashforward, and so called flashsideways. I’m doing this just to let people know my view.

The flashbacks are nothing more than a storytelling device for the purpose of giving us more insight into the characters.

The flashforwards were nothing but a storytelling device used to tell the story in two different time periods. The jumping back and forth was only a switch in the narrative with the sound effects just a way to signal the audience that the narrative was about to jump.

During the flashbacks or flashforwards I do. Of believe anyone was actually traveling. Desmond is a different case However.

Now for the most part, the ‘flashsideways’ are again merely a story telling device fir the most part. When the scene shifts to the alt universe no one is actually traveling to the alt universe. However, there is a link between the two and this link will effect the story. But again, the switch in the focus of the narrative with the accompanying sound effect is nothing more than a scene Change with an audio cue that the change is about to happen.

Again, Desmond is a special case with this.

By: A.E.S.

A.E.S. — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:17:29 +0000

There is a very important scene in this last episode that greatly connects the two timelines, and they come by way of the well.

Sayid is talking to Des. The most important line in that scene is when Des asks Sayid, “What will you tell her?”…”What will you tell her you did to be with her?…

I think about that scene, and I think about the scene with Sayid tell Nadia that he doesnt deserve her in the “alt”…

I know everyone thinks that Sayid did not shoot Des…but what if he did…and by killing him…he gave the man who the rules dont apply to free reign in the off island world…?

If the alt is what MIB promised Sayid…the happy ending that many want…then I think that the scene at the well shows that Sayid took Desmonds words to heart…and he may very well NOT actually deserve Nadia.

By: Roland

Roland — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:35:03 +0000

Maybe, maybe not but I still think that it is somehow the future for the Losties. The purpose could be to show what con Flocke OR Whidmore pulled on the Losties and Desmond is there to wake them up.

By: ilieintheshadowofthestatue

ilieintheshadowofthestatue — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 10:31:35 +0000

Roland, if they flash back from the alt reality to the Island, what would be the purpose of the whole thing? Did they learn something in the alt reality that they can use on the Island, or what?

By: A.E.S.

A.E.S. — Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:11:12 +0000

Well said Roland…

By: Roland

Roland — Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:31:28 +0000

I like all quantum science stuff but I really can’t wrap my mind around the alt universe as “real”. I still think it is a construct of some sort. Like the Matrix for want of a different example. I think when Des does wake them all up they will “flash” back to the islands present. Their conciosness might be there but their physical bodies are still on the island.