Comments on: Combining Water and Light

By: Inquisitor

Inquisitor — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:46:28 +0000

I’ve also read that if wormholes are even possible to create, they would be open for only an instant before collapsing in on itself (flashes/discharge?).

By: Inquisitor

Inquisitor — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:44:55 +0000

These are all AWESOME ideas and thoughts! I’m glad to find a post (in the post-finale world) that isn’t riddled with complaints, but just an energetic discussion on the features of the show. Thanks waycurious for starting this..

Maybe ilieintheshadowofthestatue (get a shorter screen name!) can shed some more “light” on this than I, but I’ve heard of theories surrounding space-time travel vuia wormholes created by ultra-high gravtiational fields. If EM energy is so closely associated with gravity (magnetism), then it’s possible that what turning the key, spinning the wheel, and removing the cork does is allow the EM energy to build-up so immensely in such a small area that it creates a wormhole effect.

By: waycurious

waycurious — Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:07:42 +0000

The Swan. Genius. They pressed the button to periodically release the energy.

Turning the key may have been quenched the electromagnetism like removing the cork, and allowed our Losties access to the island by temporarily breaking the barrier, or whatever it is that allowed you to the island w/o having perfect bearings. (Perhaps, MIB could have planned an escape this way … )

The Swan was to study the unique electromagnetic fluctuations of the area. Perhaps they adjusted things so they could leave the island and allow the drops, or maybe they just learned the bearings.

The numbers were on the hatch so they could remember them. (I contend the numbers were a password to confirm someone else hadn’t taken over the hatch.)

If this is true, it’s a great example of how one overthinks. A cork + water did just as well for thousands of years.

Also, maybe the FDW was frozen for this same cooling principle, with the wheel as the button.

By: Clairespeanutbutter

Clairespeanutbutter — Wed, 02 Jun 2010 02:22:35 +0000

@bobt
thanks for the insight, i didn’t realize the station was originally intended to harness the energy – so like you said, perhaps they converted whatever mechanism they were using to harness it to negate it instead… which may or may not have involvled water, though with their scientific knowledge i would guess that at some point they would have experimented with it..

By: bobt

bobt — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:11:26 +0000

@clairespb
I’ve thought about that before too..that seems to be a viable remedy. Seems too simple actually.. The Swan station must be there as a preventive measure, although it was originally intended to harness the energy. Maybe the Dharma folks built a huge computerized mechanism to help negate the energy periodically (108 minutes), but they failed to recognize the inherent properties of water were there the entire time

By: Clairespeanutbutter

Clairespeanutbutter — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 21:52:22 +0000

Along those lines, I wonder if the numbers that were being typed into the computer were also connected to some kind of water source, releasing a set amount of water every 108 minutes and cooling the “core” before the magnetic field could grow too strong… in this case, it would have been a preventative measure rather than to manipulate the island’s properties…

By: Achalli

Achalli — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:18:54 +0000

That should read ‘cave,’ not ‘cab.’ Stupid predictive text.

By: Achalli

Achalli — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:17:02 +0000

A lot of early cultures revered caves as the birthplace of the world because of their resemblance to female genitalia. There is a cab in Crete that is thought to have contained the umbilical cord of Zeus at one point. It is a recurring theme in a lot of cultures and it fits the bill for the housing of the source on Lost.

By: shephards_flocke

shephards_flocke — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:46:26 +0000

This is interesting, i guess the seemingly random mythology stuff can still have some scientific explanation.
Its also cool that the cave/light represented life, death and rebirth (some people are saying) and water and light are both vital resources needed to live. I’m stating the obvious, but it is interesting.

By: Achalli

Achalli — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 04:08:54 +0000

Interesting post Waycurious. I once read about a man named Victor Shauberger (I need to double check the spelling on the name) who lived during the early part of the 20th century. He came from a long line of family that were caretakers of forrests in Germany. He observed how water flowed through channels and was able to design log flumes that mimicked how water flowed naturally and prevented the logs from jamming the flumes. He supposedly used this knowledge to design machines that generated electromagnetism using the same principles.