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Ummm….Spoiler Alert…?…?…? Walt’s going on here…?

So….I took some advice from Kimberly and began watching “Lost Talk Live, New York Times”…something to that nature…wow…it was actually as entertaining as the show sometimes…maybe even more than “What Kate Does”.

“Darlton” talks at length about Lost more than I have ever seen them before. I only got about halfway through, but several things are given away three days before the show…

Spoiler alert: Emerson and Garcia made an appearance before I turned it off at the end of work…unless youre my boss, then I turned it off when I got to work…

Regardless, both were asked about their favorite Lost characters, and they chose each others…which was odd seeing after the finale, considering this was three days before.

Then Emerson goes on to say that he enjoyed working with Jorge more “recently”, and something to the line of them having something important to do together before the end of Lost…
I was listening, because if I watch, I cannot pretend to be working, but I imagine he got a not so nice look from “Darlton”.

There was many things said about answers.
They made it a point to say that sometimes it is the easy answer, and even when they give the answer on the show, or even when asked flat out, people still believe there is more to it, and in not so many words, cause the idea to be blown out of proportion.

They also said that Aaron was never special, and it was said that the psychic that told Claire she had to go on the plane was indeed a fraud, which he told us, and Mr Eko later in the story.
They said Kates plane was explained in her back-story/flashback, and that is the end of the planes story…thats it.

They said Widmore was lying about Jacob visiting him!

Then they said something that made the most excited I have been since Lost ended…

“We will see Walt again before the series (Lost) is all said and done…”

This was three days before the finale…it was in stone…they were done…so one more time, for old times sake…

WHERE THE HELL IS WALT…!?!?

Hello DVD special features…hopefully…

Here is what I think happened to Walt…

Option 1…
Sometime after Locke visited him, Walt dies…and I think that in his death, he will either go to the island…as we saw him in scenes with Shannon, Sayid, and John…

or he goes to the FSW/afterlife…and dies there, leading him again to the scenarios listed above…

Option 2…
Walt returns to the island somehow, at some point, with the other kids…

He and the children become meet with Hurley and Ben, and Desmond, and somehow create the FSW for the Losties to meet up in.
The island movesback through time, and Hurley records the numbers.
Walt ends up being the one who traps MIB in the cabin.
Charlie ends up playing a”flashing” and “electro-magnetic” role like his Scottish daddy.
And Aaron and JiYeon end up being the last two left, now with the ability to procreate.

Through the works of the islands time travel, Walt grows up to be Matthew Abaddon, and we have seen that the last thing he does in his life is try and help John.

This is all sort of messy, and in all honesty they could be messing with us completely…but damn it felt good to have the opportunity to write another real “Theory On Lost”…

In looking up a link for the NY event (just go to YouTube)…I found that Dark UFO has a post about this topic as well…with a “Spoiler” title…screw em…not changing mine now…
They say something about Des telling Jack “Lift it up” in season two when he departs in the stadium…and that “you would not be disappointed” by the message…

Thats pretty convenient because I watched the first disc of season 2 last night and caught the same thing…
I really think it is LIGHTLY referencing the cork, and what Jack had to do when he got down to the light…this really asks the question of when/who that particular version of Desmond Hume is when he visited Jack that night…just when you thought it was over…

If anyone (Kim?) has seen the whole thing, and can add info, please do…I probably wont get to watch again until Monday, and am curious what else was talked about…

Also, Kimberly…I asked you this somewhere else, and cannot remember where, but what was the big give away that you talked about right before the show…there were several that I could see being spoilerish…

Thanks again everyone…Am looking forward to seeing people on Emzis new site…

I really think it will be fun because its not as much arguing and debating as it is creativeness…

Thanks and if you know anything else…spill the beans here…if people are dumb enough to get ‘spoiled’ after my title, its not really my fault.

Also let me know what you think about my two options, and lets here some others!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLT!!!!!!

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32 thoughts on “Ummm….Spoiler Alert…?…?…? Walt’s going on here…?

  1. Hey A.E.S

    I heard somewhere that they filmed some scenes with Ben and Hurley on the island, showing them as leaders etc., for the finale but they were never shown.

    Maybe that’s where Walt would’ve come into it. There is supposed to be something extra on the DVD so maybe this is what it’ll be.

    Not sure why they would say Walt would be in the finale if he wasn’t, so maybe he is in those extra scenes with Ben and Hurley.

  2. its just slightly dissapointing that instead of buying the Season 6 DVD to watch the season again, people will be buying it primarily just to they can watch any deleted scenes. (see if things didi in fact get answered or not).

  3. It’s a little more than slighlty disappointing. Here’s to hoping they don’t charge an extra $100 for the Blu-Ray.

    I will be forking out some dough to find out if there any Walt-ernate endings.

  4. Yeah! I saw the episode that introduced this term very recently therefore I remember.
    Fringe is not an amazing show but it entertains pretty much. What I like the most is that in the end of each episode there aren’t unanswered mysteries and the ones left are solved in the next chapters. I love the “Walter” personage he’s the essence of the show.
    By the way anyone could suggest any interesting show since Lost is over.

  5. Oh my god AES! I forgot how much i love your posts..

    the whole ‘Walt becomes Matthew Abaddon’ scenario is simply majestic!

    If that is how it turns out (if anything turns out) then i will be 110% pleased!!

    AMAZING!

  6. Emzi, good call on the DVD extras. They never actually said in the thing I watched, “The finale”…just “before its all said and done”…whatever the hell that means.

    Btw, very excited for the new site!

  7. IamJacob…Ill be buying it for both.

    I am REALLY hoping they dont pull a dick move and include features in the entire season that wont be in the season 6 set.

    Many of us already own the other five seasons, and cant get CLOSE to a good return on resale to get near the cost of the set, which I would imagine will range between 150 and 300 dollars…depending on where and which (bluray or dvd) copy you get…

    I think we should start a boycot of season 6 if they dont include all the dvd extras…make a petition or something to that nature and spread it throughout the Lost fanbase and sites, in effort to not have to rebuy the other season…

    Sorry, I dont even know what the deal is…Im just assuming some marketing scam before its all said and done as well…

  8. Boog, good call on “Walternate” endings..I love Fringe.

    I had to force feed it through about the first five episodes…then I really began to get attatched.

    I missed most of this season, and with Lost over, Im just now getting back into it…Walter is an amazing character, and i love the cast and depth of the show in general.

  9. mnicolau…I know Achalli highly recommends “The Prisoner”.

    If you want to travel back in time, and wonder what the hell is going on…”Twin Peaks” was one of my favorite past mind-numbing shows…
    Good luck getting your hands on the whole thing for under three hundred bucks…try Netflix, if you have it…

    Oh…TruBlood!
    One of the best shows on TV…if not the best now that Lost is over!

    Give it a chance, and I find it hard to believe that anyone wouldnt get hooked.

  10. 45…I forgot how much I love your comments!

    I know the Abaddon thing is a stretch…but its SO fun to think about!

    Even more-so thinking about how he saw his past self when he took John to see “Walt” off island…if its true of course…

    Thanks for the comment 45!

  11. The Walt/Abbadon thing is pretty cool to think about and would have been an awesome twist. Might be a bit of a strecth in trying to figure out just exactly HOW Walt developed that weird accent over the years that Abbadon has/had.

  12. Twin Peaks was a phenomenally terrible show that was well before its time.

    I think if it were to have arrived in the internet age it would have gone more seasons than just the two.

    It didnt get a conclusion, got out of control as Lost did early on with “mysteries”, and was capped off with an INSANE movie…that did luckily give closure…cant lie…the ending is kind of strange…

    I dont want to tell you to watch it and you hate it… you might, but I really liked it.

  13. Many thanks for the suggestions A.E.S.
    I read the plot of “Twin Peaks” and now I’m quite anxious to see it.
    Concerning “The Prisoner” I have to say that some time ago a friend recommended me this show but I was skeptic because it’s an old show but since you and Achalli recommends it I’ll give it a shot.
    About “True Blood”, is it a show of 2008 with vampires and the girl “Sookie”? I think I have seen some sporadic episodes and I didn’t like much (but maybe if I see it from the beginning my opinion will turn positive).

    Once again many thanks. I’ll give you my feedback once I see the shows.

    mnicolau…I know Achalli highly recommends “The Prisoner”.

    If you want to travel back in time, and wonder what the hell is going on…”Twin Peaks” was one of my favorite past mind-numbing shows…
    Good luck getting your hands on the whole thing for under three hundred bucks…try Netflix, if you have it…

    Oh…TruBlood!
    One of the best shows on TV…if not the best now that Lost is over!

    Give it a chance, and I find it hard to believe that anyone wouldnt get hooked.

  14. hey AES. good catch, i didnt see the interview before either, but seeing it now makes me dislike the writers a little more…

    they say were aren’t taking things literally enough when they give answers, but that is only because we have been conditioned (by their own writing) to not trust anyone on the show. they have been too concerned with misleading us in order to have these twists and surprises that we simply can not take anyone at their word.

    especially not the writers themselves…

  15. Well since LOST is over…and this is a spoiler post…….

    Walt was seen in hawaii a couple months ago filming scenes….there were pictures of him….and hes really big now lol….so since he wasnt in the episode…most likely he will be on the dvd cuz they wouldnt bring him all the way out there for nothing

    i think the writers wanted more stuff to be in the season but just ran out of time..(their own fault)…so thats why we get to see the 12 minutes or so with hurley and ben ruling on island on the dvd and possibly walt

  16. AES, I did watch Twin Peaks when it first aired and I was addicted to it. As a matter of fact, I killed Laura Palmer.

    I just misunderstood one of your comments and thought you were saying there was time travelling in Twin Peaks, which I couldn’t recall. But I guess that Twin Peaks The Movie was a kind of flashback, if I remember correctly.

    Thanks for the YouTube link!

  17. mnicolau…YOU SHOULD BE SORRY…
    ;]

    Yeah, I heard people talking about TruBlood at work, and thought, “yeah, another Vamp story”…Im telling you, best show on TV now that Lost is over…at least from a pure entertainment standpoint.

    It and Fringe both take about 4 to 5 episodes to really dig into…then they both take off.

    Also, if you are at all into reading, or if your not and want a good “starter author” to build from…read anything by Chuck Palahniuk.

    If you want a “Lost” type experience, go with “Rant”…its not at all the same genre, but it will make you reminisce about at least a little…no spoiler on that though.

    Some of his other books are indeed better, but its a very fun read and supplied me with a few days of trying to figure out what the hell was going on.
    It proposes some interesting thoughts and theories.

  18. eko…lol…

    I get what you are saying though.

    They cry wolf, and then when Hurley tells us all what the whispers are…we say, “Yeah, but what are the whispers really?”…

    I think thats kind of the fun in it though.
    I know many people here are not fond of the conclusion, but I talk about it more off site now than ever, and probably come up with thoughts and ideas more quickly now that I can hear what they are saying in interviews.

    I actually wished I would have lisened to them more the last two seasons now that its all said and done…

  19. Thanks for the spoiler Henry…I dont think they ran out of time though…they had three years.
    I really think some things were left out purposely to help push the DVD sales…dirty maybe…but genius… I would do it if I could…

    The other dvds sold mostly because we needed to watch them 1000 times to figure out what was going on…now we need a reason to buy this right away…

  20. Ilie…You killed Laura Palmer…well the table is made of for_mic_a…

    Sorry for the mix up…No time travel in Peaks at all…who the hell knows where it would have gone if it would have made another few seasons…?

    Wow…talk to anyone that watched that show…they love it.

    It makes me think that is what Lost could have been without the internet…or what “Peaks” could have been with it…

  21. Hey AES. Better late than never?

    Every time I have thought about checking in here or I’m trying to remember the last question you asked me it is never a time I’m actually near my computer. Oh well.

    I’m glad you watched part of it. Yes there are 10 10-minute videos and 1 3-minute video to close.

    I was very surprised about the Walt statement; it was so out of character that I wondered if it was actually true. Better safe to tell you “big spoiler” than not. Now having watched The End, I am SO surprised that Damon mentioned something about a scene involving many of the cast in one of the final scenes! That was surprising then and even more surprising now.

    I know I am in the minority here (not necessarily with you, but here at the site) so just to clarify, I come in peace… 😉 and I have no intention of arguing over perspectives on the end.

    The reason I liked the Times Talk event was because it was a precursor and parallel to why I liked The End. I very much appreciated how they resolved issues according to their terms and stuck by them knowing that many wouldn’t be satisfied. As artists an creative people, especially in TV, that is a HUGE risk. I appreciated their various statements about things like Aaron and his specialness (as you pointed out) because I think that the big picture is recognizing how we (the viewers) have been on the same journey as the characters.

    Have you heard about Emilie de Ravin not watching the show last season when she wasn’t on it because she wanted to ‘feel’ and ‘think’ like her character would? She didn’t want to know what was going on in order to truly act like she didn’t know what was going on. I like that, and I think it somehow reflects why I was satisfied and deeply moved by their ‘resolutions’ and such. It’s unimaginable to so many of us to purposely stay in the dark about an entire season in order to have a better grasp and connection with what is actually happening!

    Anyway.

    Obviously, part of the legacy of this show is how involved the viewers became in the journey. (Hello, nice to meet you on this theories site dedicated to Lost.) One of the things that I have always loved is that our journey as the viewer can always relate to one (or more) of the journeys of the character(s). So really it’s like we are one of the characters at any given point. The smashing of the mirror scene from Lighthouse could epitomize how some people might walk away from The End… just pissed to no end at these Darlton characters who have been messing with their lives for years.

    I love that kind of stuff.

    Back to TTL…

    I liked how they showed different scenes from throughout the seasons to talk about where they were coming from and part of the creative/writing process. It was a good looking back at pivotal points that obviously are benchmarks for the story and the characters.

    Some of the questions from the audience were forgettable (except as you mentioned how Emerson and Jorge answered them!) but that was par for the course in all of the audience-question times lately.

    I know this comment is now long enough to be it’s own post , but I owed you a response from weeks ago. 😉 Sorry to everyone else.

    I’m sure there will be plenty more to discuss after August 24th.

  22. I hate to be the one to burst your bubble, but Walt was in the finale. He was in jacks (maybe johns) flashback/ awakening. He was also credited as being in the episode. I think that is what the writers were refering to. They are pretty sly… I hope I am wrong.

  23. Mrmagic….yes it was…a flashback when he was a kid….but he was seen filming scenes with the age that he is now….and about 6 foot tall…so i think we will see him again on the dvd

  24. Mr Magic…I have a million more bubbles, and I hope you are wrong too…

    Good call Henry…now that Lost is over, Ill take anything to give me hope that there is ANYTHING else out there new for us…

  25. Kimberly…first of all…is that you with MIB?
    That is pretttttyyyy… pretttttyyyy… pretttttyyyy awesome…

    I saw the whole thing now…LOVED it…

    That IS a big give away, saying that everyone is together…slipped right passed me.

    I did hear that about Claire…
    Emilie De Ravens strategy is either genius…or her way of saying that she doesnt watch Lost, lol…I think strategy, which makes her somewhat of a genius in my eyes if true…good call on bringing her up!

    I also liked that they gave insight about Aaron and other mysteries that were not quite as mysterious as we made them out to be.

    Seriously…if there were no theory sites like this, would anyone really even think about Kates plane or Johns shoes…?
    No, we would probably be much more blown away, but would have Lost something in the journey along the way.

    Lol…speaking of meeting people on theory sites, I love to just copy and paste a theory I write specifically for here on other boards like DarkUFO or ABC, lol…

    I rarely do it, but people just DESTROY it for the punctuation and odd spacing/paragraphs, lol…

    One person says how terrible it is that they cant even read it, I cant help but crack up…

    I posted my “Greatest Theory I Have Ever Seen” on both…people actually yelled at me online because they were so angry about it…
    I look here, and there is 50 comments telling me how good it is…

    Just goes to show Im only stupid and crazy until you get to know me…well…sometimes its sketchy even then…

    Im SO glad you told me about that, I wasnt kidding when I said I may have enjoyed it as much as the show.

    Now that ts done, Im going over all the old podcasts from ABC, never really listened to them before…hilarious!

    The last one is really good if you get a chance.
    At the end, they replay what was called “Darltons favorite podcast moment”…

    They LAUGH, and I mean laugh in a ‘poking fun at way” at trivial ridiculous questions that people ask, the last 30 seconds of the podcast is a question about “Lockes brother”…you just have to hear it…

    Late is always better than never Kim, get back when you can, and again thanks for the info about everything!

  26. I haven’t listened to their last podcast yet. I am having weird emotional reactions to my withdrawal symptoms, so I’m afraid that if I listen to them I’ll get all down again. 🙂 But sometime soon I’ll listen, I’ll just need space to recover, too. Ha ha.

    Yeah, so I went to that Lost Live: the Final Celebration and couldn’t resist having the pic with Titus Welliver. I mean come on! He’s EVIL INCARNATE, right? Oddly enough, I had my pic with him and in a split second decision just talked to Jorge Garcia (since they were basically together at this point) instead of having a pic with him, too. I thought there was something about having just one picture to encapsulate the Lost experience that night and so for it to be with MIB is ridiculously awesome.

    Anyway, I’m so glad you liked the interviews. It’s like they were preparing us to see that the ultimately many of the ‘red herring’-type of devices in the show (all along) has really been not just their creations, but our own. WE decided to not believe certain things (like the psychic/Aaron thing) and WE decided that because something was shown (over and over sometimes) that it was “everything-hinges-on-this-being-answered!” important to understanding or tying things together. The plane meant something to Kate. And Kate is pretty important to the show. It’s not the plane that is important, but Kate and her journey, her role in loving/accepting Jack, her tabula rasa island experience. Sure, she’s not my favorite, but she obviously was important and way more important than a symbolic toy plane. (Oh geez, I’m rambling. Sorry.)

    I loved their explanation example with the Widmore thing; like they were reminding us that they aren’t insulting our intelligence and things can be quite simple and satisfying.

    We saw plenty of flashbacks of Jacob off-island connecting with people. We didn’t see this for Widmore. If they didn’t show it, maybe it’s because it didn’t happen. That’s just flat out logic that I think we sometimes forgot about because we were too busy worrying about the rules, the “how did Jacob get off the island when MIB couldn’t?” type of stuff. I know that feels important, but at the end of the day, the story was about trust and the things that developed in the story actually hinged on characters trusting each other. (Basically one of the only things/themes I wrote about on this site this season, so I’m already boring myself because I feel like I said it before.)

    I don’t bring that up to criticize people for wanting to know how Jacob got off the island, but I think the writers were actually more consistent than a lot of people have given them credit for this season. So that example with Widmore’s “Jacob came to me” line is just an example of what I respect about what they did with telling their story, their way. Times Talk Live was just a great way to look back on what I think was their genius all along.

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