Just wanted to say hello to anyone that still visits the site. I miss the purple page, but am glad it’s still up and running.
Say hello if you’re still hanging around waiting for everyone to come back to the island!

-A.E.S.

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I just wanted to drop in and send anyone still here well wishes over the holidays!

Don’t let anyone tell you what you can’t do…

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“Thank you for flying Oceanic…We hope you enjoy the ride…”
“We cannot express the importance of you understanding how important airline safety is to hgdjhs…”
“jdbsjhb”… static “kjdsjgc”… static
“If you would please fasten your seatbelts, and position your seats to their full upright positions…”




Man outside the cabin: “Knock knock”
Man inside the cabin: “Who’s there?”
Man outside the cabin: “Anyone you want me to be…”




From Lostpedia…”According to Locke’s dream in “Cabin Fever”, Horace died 12 years before 2004, in 1992. Other evidence supports this date for the Purge. Kelvin Inman, who served in the Gulf War (1990-1991), joined the Initiative, presumably before the Purge. (“Live Together, Die Alone”) When Danielle arrived in 1988, the Others had apparently not yet moved to the Barracks. ”

We know that the ring of ash surrounding something, in this case the cabin, is used to keep the monster at bay, whether in or out. We also know that Dogan was at least one of the people who was capable of creating the ash (or poison, as I believe it is the same as what was in the pill he tried to make Lennon try to make, Jack try to make…Sayid take). I assume that since Ilana and Bram came on the “316”, and were in possession of the ash…other ‘Others’ had the knowledge of it as well…making it nearly impossible to learn who actually surrounded the cabin with the eventual “broken ash ring”. But we will give it a go anyway…

In the Losties time frame, meaning excluding the monsters appearances in “Across the Sea”, when is the earliest we have actually seen the monster?

I believe we see the monster in the early 70s posing as Ben’s mother (considering the fact that they were on opposite sides of the fence), but due to the fact that Richard Alpert makes a comment about “fences keeping other things out, but not us”, referring to ‘us’ as the others, makes the thought that the monster was very much around in Lafleur and earlier extremely likely. (actually, I think Bens scene with “Mom” comes before “Lafleur” on the timeline)

Basically, we know the monster was a concern and known to the Dharma Initiative before the Losties travelled through time.




“jhsgckusd” …static… “hjsgcjh”
“Everything is not as it seems folks, no worries when flying Ocejkbdsn…idcixkjnc”….static
“Be sure to visit our sister company, Ajirwiuhdi…hgdcs”…static…




Like Jacob, I think MIBs view is not limited by the normal universal space/time rules… I think he knew of things in the future the same way Jacob did. Im not going to get into the old “there are no coincidences on Lost”…but Jacobs final candidates are the same people who travel back in time…
Meaning Jacob and MIB saw outside the metaphorical box.
The game for the Island Brothers began officially not upon Richards arrival, but upon the Losties travelling in time. Richard simply took Jacobs place behind the game board…getting helpful hints from the rule maker himself when necessary.

Its not so much the cabins inhabitant that is the true mystery…its who built the cabin that tells the tale.




“Please keep your seatbelts fastened…we may hit a little turbulance along the way…but we should all be used to that by now…jdhbcjds”…static…




I believe the cabin is built sometime after Ethan’s birth, because in Locke’s dream Horace tells Locke he is building the cabin for his wife and son. Before you assume that the monster was simply lying to and manipulating Locke…understand that I am aware of this.

The monster was very much lying and manipulating…but I think as many good stories are…it is also based on fact. Because when John woke up and went to where the Dharma Initiative were “laid to rest”, he found the map in Horace’s pocket.

What MIB does best is use not only emotions as weapons against its victims while posing as the deceased, it also uses the knowledge of the dead as well.
As John Locke, his spoken knowledge to Ben about being in the hatch together was something that helped him keep Ben on his side long enough to get him to kill Jacob for him.

I know, they knew each other, so that doesn’t count…so here’s another example more along the lines of what happens with Horace and (a very gullible) John Locke…
Christian had no emotional ties to John, but in the wheel chamber, his words about “my son” were enough to convince Locke (and Jack) that it was indeed Christian Shepard, and Johns following of his instructions seemed more logical knowing(believing) that Christian was indeed Jacks father.
MIBs resources run deep…
Maybe him getting off the island wouldnt be so bad…yep…I could definitely see Smokey as a politician…




“Please wrap the band around the back of your head and place the mask over your nose and moujhcbjh”…static…
“Remember to breathe, it will be ok…we are experiencing a loss in cabin pressure at the momenjbdj”…static…




I believe that MIB found Horace out in the woods a short time after Amy has Ethan. Going on the logic of MIB using emotions AND knowledge to trick someone into doing his deeds, he most likely assumed the form of Paul, Amys ex who was killed by the Others in “LaFleur”.
Just as he appeared as Christian to get Jack to the water/cave, John in the wheel chamber, and whoever else. MIB was doing nothing but setting in stone the circumstances he knew had to take place to make his dream come true…leaving that god-forsaken island.

I am left to assume from this that Ethan being abducted by the Others came possibly at some time before the purge…maybe at the cabin that Horace built in the woods for him and his family.
Like many of the other small things that happen in the past, certain things, no matter how miniscule, had to take place, and MIB knew that it could never happen without Ethan being an Other.
Ethan HAD to shoot John in the leg. Ethan had to help get Juliet to the island. Ethan HAD to infiltrate the Losties camp. And most importantly…Ethan HAD to be the others surgeon until…another one “fell out of the sky”…then his work was done.
Has to make you wonder if he was ever told “You can go now” by an invisible dead person right before he died…maybe his father told him.

We know Horace dies in the purge between 1988 and 1992, and Ben takes Alex in this time as well. Considering that Danielle had the baby seven months after arriving, it would have been 1989 when Ben took Alex…and leaving us with a three year period (1989-1992) when Horace could have actually built the cabin, and making this theory relevant…at least in terms of who built the cabin, why he built the cabin, and why MIB wanted him to build the cabin…all over little Ethan Rom.
But there is more to it in the long run…




“We may have been wrong about a few things. We need you to prepare for the worst ladies and gentlemen. Oceanic apologizes for the situation…and again..tjsad”…static…




This leads us to the last mystery of the cabin…WHY was the ash ring there?
My original thought was to imprison MIB in the cabin. Makes sense right? How do you stop a monster from running amok…put it in a cage…but due to the history we know of the ash, it has ONLY been used in keeping the monster out…logical, vs my imagination…lets try both…

The most logical choice would be to keep the monster out right? (wink at Emzi) Which makes sense because the ONLY time we see the ring of ash is to keep the monster out…never for imprisonment.

So why would jacob want to keep the monster out of the cabin?
Because the monster is Jacobs brother…and Jacob understands how he thinks, and more importantly how he plays his game.

MIB NEEDS to have a person alone to truly convince them of who he is. He needs to get a person in a situation where they are not thinking about anything else…where he can put pressure on without interference from Jacob or his “candidates/protectors”. The cabin was the perfect place to apply the pressure.
When the words “Help me” were spoken to John, he never for a second assumed that the voice came from anywhere outside the cabin…and even though he questioned him, he KNEW it was not Ben.

The cabin is where I believe MIB spoke to Ben long ago(maybe what Ben meant by “I thought I was summoning the monster, when I realized it was summoning me”), possibly again as his mother and how Ben was able to find it originally. This helps with another mystery…

MIB moves the cabin with each person he seduces and manipulates in his romance of achieving his dream of a brick house and a picket fence “Across the Sea”.
This is why nobody can find it UNTIL IT IS THEIR TURN to have MIBs pressure applied inside of his cabin. But we know this…even if we don’t want to admit it yet…

We know MIB was Christian Shepard. He said it, Claire said it, Jack knows it…and even the writers have spoken up and said that MIB was indeed Christian on the island.
That is why I say its not the inhabitant now that matters, its the person who built the cabin that is the key.




“Hold on folks, we seem to be stabilizing pressure…”…”Oceanic wants you to hjbcjhds”…static…
“What was that flash?”




That is why I lean more towards the ash imprisoning MIB…

We know that sometime before the purge/Rousseau having Alex taken, the cabin is built. And somewhere after that, but before September 23 2004, MIB is imprisoned. Roughly 1988 at the earliest…and 1992 at the latest…based on island events that we are aware of.

We know that the monster was on the island roaming in 2004 when the losties crashed. We also see someone else that same day…that should not be there as he is…Christian Shepard.
The monster was free, therefor the ash ring was broken.

So lets go back to poor Mr. Goodspeed and his lovely family.
I think there is a possibility that Ethan was not just taken, but saved by none other than Mrs. Goodspeed, or Amy…or Amelia…the Other that was in Juliets house before the bookclub meeting the day of the 815 crash. (See ANY of my “Amy…” theories as a reference for my reasoning behind believing Amy is Amelia)

I believe that Horace, Amy, and young Ethan were in the cabin that Paul, Amy’s dead exhusband/lover/spouse/(MIB) told Horace to build.
I believe that MIB appeared at the cabin as Paul, and told them Ethan had to go to the Others, to which they believed him and did so in an effort to save Ethans life…which they did…because Ethan HAD to live to do the things that he did.

Horace then took Amy and Ethan to the “Others”, and told them what was happening.
The Others forcibly take Amy with them against her will, even though Horace knows it will save her life as well…maybe even at Horaces request. They gave Horace the Ash and told him to go to the cabin, explaining its ability and what his friend giving him advice really is. Horace makes his way back to the cabin, and surrounds it with the ash trapping MIB inside.

Then, Horace goes back to Dharmaville AWARE of the news about the purge that is coming, but can rest peacefully knowing that his wife and son are safe…so he finds a nice seat on a bench alone…and waits peacefully for the inevitable.
The others, knowing now that the DI leader is all but out of commission…intelligently strike at the perfect time…

As easy as the purge was, it takes the Others quite a while to make Amy come around and realize that she and Horace did what is best for their son. She plays the game, but also remembers seeing her dead husband, and knowing Horace’s fate…makes her way back to the cabin after gaining the Others trust a few years later…but Amy didn’t realize that she, like Ben was actually being summoned by someone.

Having NO trouble finding the cabin, Amy arrives and speaks to the Man in Black…who looks again like Paul, or maybe even Horace.
He tells her that they can be a family again…tells her that they can live together on the island forever…
He tells her she can have whatever she wants most in the world…all she has to do is one thing for him…break the ash ring so he is able to leave.

This all leads to Ilana and Bram arriving at the cabin. Their words before the cabin was torched were possibly misinterpreted by us all at the time. I dont believe that she would be looking for Jacob there, because he is at the staue, and gave her instructions during his off island visit when she was wounded. Ilana, if anyone, knew where to find Jacob. They had Johns body and were trying to show the face of the enemy to everyone, and trying to kill or possibly even trap MIB…

“He is not here”…meaning MIB…
“Someone else has been using it”…meaning whoever he was at the time…Christian, Paul, Horace….

Ilana ordered the cabin to be burned because she knew what MIB used it for…maybe she was even tricked there herself. I actually think that it may be possible that the cabin itself was the key or energy source for MIB changing forms. Remember…her answer to why MIB wont change forms was “because he can’t anymore”, not because Jacob was dead…that was simply an assumption.




“Well folks, I don’t think you’ll be needing those masks…there is a bigger problem now…”




Whether you’re in the cabin on an Oceanic flight, or the cabin in the woods of the Lost Island, chances are you will experience a false sense of security…a drastic change in cabin pressure…and then it will crash and burn around you…




“Thank you all for flying Oceanic…this is your pilot, A.E.S. speaking…Have a nice day…”

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This is a post from Emzis TVUNCUT site voicing my opinion of the first two episodes of “The Event”…all comments can be found in the link…http://forum.tvuncut.net/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2182

The pilot was good, not great. The one flaw of the episode was that it was obvious that the plane was not going to crash and kill every main character in the first episode…it would have been awesome…but it wasnt happening.
The second episode was miles above the pilot episode, it really should have been a two part premier. They had me for the first time having a sense of concern for the characters well being.

The fact that they actually killed all the other passengers was, in my opinion, a bold move from a network prime-time storytelling perspective in the second episode (maybe it was just the scene of bodies). I very much enjoyed that part. It also let us know that large unexpected deaths are very much in the realm of possibility on the show as well.

I liked the idea of the plane disappearing, and let it be known as I called out “wormhole”, immediately after the event took place, and although I blushed at the obvious…the show leaves me with that thought that it could be…something different…although…

The admittance to electromagnetic energy being involved early on was pushing the envelope of a wormhole…and a “Lost comparison”… and involving a plane doesnt help matters for “what would happen if Lost and 24 had a baby”, otherwise known as The Event…but I must say…so far it has delivered.

Im interested to see the way they take this…not so much the storyline, but how long the average viewer can take a show with many questions and little answers.
Im even more interested to see if it can keep myself and other former Lost viewers guessing and watching…or if we have already been there and done that, regardless of the reward…Im going to try and stick it out.

I said to a friend after the pilot that although I was interested, I wasnt 100% hooked.
When the opening scene of Lost began, I knew I was in for something special, and they had me GLUED to the screen for the episode. By the time the episode was over, I knew I would watch the season no matter what happened. But it wasnt until “Walkabout” that they had me forever. I knew when that episode was done that I would watch every single last scene of Lost until it was off the air.

The Event is not LOST, although it has the potential to be “THE EVENT!!!”. But it needs its “Walkabout” episode. ALL shows of this nature need a “walkabout” episode. A single moment, a single character that will make you stick through the rough patches of a long-lived show. None of my forever dramas survive without a “walkabout” episode. It needs something that no matter what happens, an event in a single characters life is more important than that plane disappearing.
Kidnapping wont cut it. Mass slaughter wont cut it.

But what…or should I say who may cut it is Sophia. (Laura Innes, wonderful actress, actually suprised she never cameoed on Lost)
Her story COULD be the one that makes me love The Event, if its done well…

As for what our “Event Others” are…

I will not believe it is aliens until they blatantly say so on the show…for the moment, I’ll lean on an alternate universe or parallel dimensional race from none other than Earth.
My final answer…

They are human. Maybe from a parallel/alternate universe…but Im going to go with people from the future of earth (yes Im calling time travel)…maybe the last of the people of earth before it is destroyed…evolved, as everything does over time into better humans…humans 2.0 if you will…

Im not sure the cause, or reasoning for their return, or the end of the world…but I would imagine more humans and advanced science have something to do with it.

Good start, has my attention…now it just has to get up and “walkabout”…

4/5**** so far…let me know your thoughts…

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There are a number of good thoughts as to why MIB killed Seth Norris, and although we cannot actually prove any of them wrong, I think its safe to say that several of them together could very well be right.

The Man In Black, or the Smoke monster has claimed many victims for many reasons. The ultimate goal and reasoning for his violence was to leave the island, something he was willing to achieve at any cost.
He was a man first, and the first victim we know of was the one who raised him, and it was out of revenge and anger (Flashback to a knife in Mothers back).
He killed to help himself in the long run, sometimes while others thought he was helping them (Flashback to Ben summoning “Smokey” to attack the freighter crew).

I believe the main reason that MIB killed Seth Norris was because of someone who was not even at the scene of the murder…John Locke.
The first thing that had to be done was eliminate the only man who has any clue as to the whereabouts of their current destination. Location equals a way to chose a direction off the island before he is able to “embody” the correct…look for the occasion. So very many things need to happen before there can even be a thought of John Locke leaving that island.
This plot…this search for the loophole has been in the works for a very long time, and John more than likely has been involved since at least the 1950’s I would imagine. Around the time when John Locke was first on the island from a chronological perspective by dates that we have learned.

Seth Norris, like Jonas Whitfield, commanded a vessel that “accidentally” crashed onto our island…and like Jonas Whitfield, met a similar fate (Flashback Richard Alpert witnessing Jonas Whitfield being ripped through the ceiling of the Black Rock’s prison cell).

“Six hours in, our radio went out; no one could see us. We turned back to land in Fiji. By the time we hit turbulence, we were a thousand miles off course. They’re looking for us in the wrong place.”

Without the pilot to assist their location, they all became truly LOST for the first time…non-metaphorically of course.

It’s quite obvious The Monster could kill at will, with no mercy (Flashback to Jacobs protectors in the statue), and sometimes no real reasoning (Flashback to Danielle Rousseaus team). It easily could have killed anyone including Jack and Locke…but instead actually showed them both something.

MIB admittedly posed as Christian Shepard and led Jack to water…not to mention the empty casket his dead father was supposed to be in. MIB is built on deception and mind games.
He also showed John Locke something.

“”I looked into the eye of this Island, and what I saw… was beautiful.”

John told Eko it was a ” very bright light” that he saw, to which Eko disagreed with seeing.
Eko being another example of the monsters power and perspective. He could read Eko (Flashback to the first time we truly saw the monster flash and scan) and know his deepest sorrow, his biggest weakness. MIB used Yemi against him just as he used Alex against Ben. He realized Eko wasnt going to play his game, and just as he did Zoe (Flashback to the throat slit scene…maybe watch it twice), eliminated a game piece because it was “pointless” to him.

He even took the Losties to the plane after freeing them from Widmore’s cage so close to the end (Flashback to John Locke shooting and neck breaking his way to the cages and into the Ajira plane to take the explosives that Widmore wired)

Some believe that Seth was killed out of his uselessness…which is possible…
But Seth Norris was not always pointless…not by a long shot. He is the one who brought them to the island, and he is the one who was the first example of his ability…a flex of his muscles if you will. But it was Seth’s possible idea of the islands location that was his biggest fault most likely.

Like his brother, MIB knows the people that are important. He knows that certain individuals traveled through time. He showed us this by his knowledge of the compass and its importance of helping John Locke stay on the right path of following his destiny. He knows what John knows, and I would imagine what Christian Shepard and MANY others alike knew.

The Man In Blacks attack against a “pointless” character such as Seth Norris was a way to show his strength, and rile the cages of a few of the important players in Jacobs game…after all, we know he cannot directly kill any of Jacobs candidates, or at least he follows that rule from a technical standpoint (Flashback to Sawyer pulling the bomb wires on the sub).

The Man In Black’s attack against the Pilot, Seth Norris was to take away the opportunity for John, Jack, and the rest of the candidates to leave before he was ready…he may have still been contemplating “what to wear”. He may have been waiting for his own candidate to ripen.

The Man In Black may have killed the pilot for many reasons…but the principal and foremost reason was for us, the viewers.
Not to jump when “a monster” rips a man from the cockpit of a plane right in front of our hero’s eyes.
Not to fear for our Losties as they run through the jungle from the beast as it seems to engulf them as it makes its approach.
Not even to make us wonder 6 years later why he just didn’t allow them ALL to meet the same fate as the Seth and the “Temple Others” (Flashback to The Smoke Monster in full wrath mode killing everyone who didn’t take his offer to “leave the island with him”).

In the pilot episode, the end of the very first one…he didnt kill the pilot more for any reason than to make us ask the very same thing that Charlie asks as he, Jack, and Kate look up and stare at what reflects in the puddle below, “How does something like that happen?”

(Flashback to the white shirted, wingless, and bloodied pilot hanging in the tree)

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So….I took some advice from Kimberly and began watching “Lost Talk Live, New York Times”…something to that nature…wow…it was actually as entertaining as the show sometimes…maybe even more than “What Kate Does”.

“Darlton” talks at length about Lost more than I have ever seen them before. I only got about halfway through, but several things are given away three days before the show…

Spoiler alert: Emerson and Garcia made an appearance before I turned it off at the end of work…unless youre my boss, then I turned it off when I got to work…

Regardless, both were asked about their favorite Lost characters, and they chose each others…which was odd seeing after the finale, considering this was three days before.

Then Emerson goes on to say that he enjoyed working with Jorge more “recently”, and something to the line of them having something important to do together before the end of Lost…
I was listening, because if I watch, I cannot pretend to be working, but I imagine he got a not so nice look from “Darlton”.

There was many things said about answers.
They made it a point to say that sometimes it is the easy answer, and even when they give the answer on the show, or even when asked flat out, people still believe there is more to it, and in not so many words, cause the idea to be blown out of proportion.

They also said that Aaron was never special, and it was said that the psychic that told Claire she had to go on the plane was indeed a fraud, which he told us, and Mr Eko later in the story.
They said Kates plane was explained in her back-story/flashback, and that is the end of the planes story…thats it.

They said Widmore was lying about Jacob visiting him!

Then they said something that made the most excited I have been since Lost ended…

“We will see Walt again before the series (Lost) is all said and done…”

This was three days before the finale…it was in stone…they were done…so one more time, for old times sake…

WHERE THE HELL IS WALT…!?!?

Hello DVD special features…hopefully…

Here is what I think happened to Walt…

Option 1…
Sometime after Locke visited him, Walt dies…and I think that in his death, he will either go to the island…as we saw him in scenes with Shannon, Sayid, and John…

or he goes to the FSW/afterlife…and dies there, leading him again to the scenarios listed above…

Option 2…
Walt returns to the island somehow, at some point, with the other kids…

He and the children become meet with Hurley and Ben, and Desmond, and somehow create the FSW for the Losties to meet up in.
The island movesback through time, and Hurley records the numbers.
Walt ends up being the one who traps MIB in the cabin.
Charlie ends up playing a”flashing” and “electro-magnetic” role like his Scottish daddy.
And Aaron and JiYeon end up being the last two left, now with the ability to procreate.

Through the works of the islands time travel, Walt grows up to be Matthew Abaddon, and we have seen that the last thing he does in his life is try and help John.

This is all sort of messy, and in all honesty they could be messing with us completely…but damn it felt good to have the opportunity to write another real “Theory On Lost”…

In looking up a link for the NY event (just go to YouTube)…I found that Dark UFO has a post about this topic as well…with a “Spoiler” title…screw em…not changing mine now…
They say something about Des telling Jack “Lift it up” in season two when he departs in the stadium…and that “you would not be disappointed” by the message…

Thats pretty convenient because I watched the first disc of season 2 last night and caught the same thing…
I really think it is LIGHTLY referencing the cork, and what Jack had to do when he got down to the light…this really asks the question of when/who that particular version of Desmond Hume is when he visited Jack that night…just when you thought it was over…

If anyone (Kim?) has seen the whole thing, and can add info, please do…I probably wont get to watch again until Monday, and am curious what else was talked about…

Also, Kimberly…I asked you this somewhere else, and cannot remember where, but what was the big give away that you talked about right before the show…there were several that I could see being spoilerish…

Thanks again everyone…Am looking forward to seeing people on Emzis new site…

I really think it will be fun because its not as much arguing and debating as it is creativeness…

Thanks and if you know anything else…spill the beans here…if people are dumb enough to get ‘spoiled’ after my title, its not really my fault.

Also let me know what you think about my two options, and lets here some others!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLT!!!!!!

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I know every year LOST fans give writers heart attacks by posting tons of spoilers online, it seems to have gotten curbed quite well on this site…so…what leaked before the show was done?

What did you hear before it all ended that gave things away, or that was false?

I also heard that the finale script got left somewhere and found and ended up online…does anyone know if it was actually the finale script…or if it was a fake?

What was the biggest spoiler that you got spoiled on in the finale…and in Lost in general?

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Sorry…I couldnt come up with a catchy name for this one…

Lost…Ok…I get that some people didnt like it…I did. I wish more did…

Everyone wants more answers…I would have taken three more seasons…what are you going to do?

I feel the FSW is fairly self explanatory…it was the afterlife. Why were there kids, one who didnt exist?
Because it was a reflection of what these people saw themselves as…and what they wanted to be…or could have been in a perfect world.
They took everything that they were, and bunched it all together while waiting for everyone to get there that was most important to them. Why wasnt Helen there…I dont know…

This place showed that although some people gave their best efforts in life, things went awry, and they made mistakes. And going to the island allowed the possibility that they could change their ways…a place where the flawed, can heal and grow. A place where miracles happen.

There are tons of questions floating around, and although it seems that many will not/cannot be swayed…Im still going to try…

So to put it simply…what changed that we view the show differently?
Its always been up to interpretation…always.
Nobody but ABC PROMISED ALL the answers…if they even did.

We as theorists created a plethora of questions…and demand answers…what? Who does that?

Either way…the truth is, they gave a lot of answers. I wouldnt even say indirectly…I would say discretely.

Ive said before that people watching this show who dont go to theory sites dont even know half of the questions we are talking about, let alone answers to them…yet we expect Daniel Faraday to write them on a chalkboard and show them to us.
Some things are applied….some are flat out told, yet refuse to be accepted.

DaddyX posted something he read somewhere else with a pretty good summary…I liked the concept, and many of the things listed…but disagree with some of them too, mainly MIB and Jacob stuff…which goes to show that people can like the show and disagree…

The most aggravating thing about it is that the whole show…at least since I have been watching and theorizing…we have relied on sites like this for answers to questions that we ourselves asked.
And throughout the years, we have come to accept when we miss something, and someone else points out the overlooked…that if 2+2=4…then 4+4=8…I dont know why that changed now that the show is over.

I think its a matter of trusting our intelligence (please dont take that the wrong way), and believing our fellow theorists that we have for so long.
Im not saying that because someone writes a quality theory than they should be listened to…just that if someone explains something, and it makes sense…and there doesnt seem to be a better idea…than it is probably correct…even if its not the answer we want.

That has been a VITAL part of watching this show, believing things we didnt want to hear…or even harder to believe someone on the site that says they figured it out.

I dont want this to come off as a rant about “Lost haters”…I want people to understand some of the things we saw. And although some will probably come and say “I understood it, I just didnt like it”…thats fine…sucks for you…many people dont understand, and many people WANT to understand and like it…so shut up for one stupid post and let the people who want to learn…learn.

So Im asking two things…

1)Any questions you have, ask them here. Do I know all the answers…probably not.
Will I be able to tell you why the rock on the hole keeps the light in…no.

But simple things asking how someone related to the story…or what the FSW really is…even why some people are in the church and some are not…
Im all baout answering Jacob and MIB questions…I think many people are most lost on that subject.
But dont ask things relating to mythology such as how the light works, things like that…they are and will be island mythology…

2)Anyone who can chime in and answer questions, I ask for your help.
If you enjoyed the show…or even didnt, but feel there is an answer that I dont have, or am incorrect…jump in and tell us…Im not going to argue, maybe debate a little, but not argue.

Again, this is not to throw anything in anyones face about not liking the show…its just to help people better understand what they saw over the last four years.

After a 45 minute long conversation with someone at work over this exact thing…it ended with me getting to do something I rarely do…use a line from Lost…specifically a John Locke line…

After a debate that actually reached near shouting at times…My boss (terrible person to debate Lost with btw…your boss) asked me why I found it so easy to like the show after years of theorizing and expecting…
I told him that I never expected anything other than great storytelling, which is what I got…and that it took and understanding and acceptance that answers were not going to be as plentiful and precise as what I could ever wish…and got to say before I left that “Its never been easy…”
To which he called me an asshole and walked away…hopefully people here will be slightly more reasonable…(although later he did come and tell me what I though about MIB and jacob made sense…)
;]

Best thing to do, if anyone even cares, is ask questions in sets of 5, numbering each one for an easy response…again…anyone that would like to help out would be greatly appreciated…

I would really like to discuss some of the things along the way, and I am not on as much as I would like to be right now…so bear with me in response time…and slight indirectness at first…
Thank you for your time…

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Im not going to argue with anyone about anything…I liked the episode, and the way Lost ended…
Its your choice whether you did or not…
Im left without questions, without desire…I am left satisfied. That is not to say that they answered everything, its just to say that I really dont care.

For anyone who thinks that everything that happened on the island was pointless…

Without the island, and Jacob bringing them there, they would have never been “good” people, and most likely would have never gotten the chance to make the decision that Ben made outside of the church…they wouldnt have even realized that much…they would have not been ready, as Ana Lucia was not ready when they died.

These people needed the island to move on to the next step in their existence, which is plain and simple…the afterlife…which led to a bright light, that many would refer to as heaven.

Juliet was going in and out of death/life when she told Sawyer “It worked.”
She saw what was going on, just as Charlie saw what was going on when he almost choked on the heroin.
The FSW represents this afterlife, or more-so the purgatory that so many thought the island was.
The FSW was not real…Jacks son was not real.

David was a creation by Jack in his “perfect world” to help him get through to understanding what happened, and why he is where he is. We didnt know who Davids mother was until then…because Jack probably didnt even know…
These people created existences for themselves until they realized that they were ready to move on, and not a second sooner.

The closest I came to picturing this happening was my theory, “An Occurrence At Our Parallel Bridge”. I titled it this way due to the actual story “An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge”.
“Owl Creek” follows a man who is sentenced to death.
Upon his hanging, the rope breaks, and he falls into the water. He then lives a life as if he had gotten away for a short time, making it all the way home to his wife and child. Upon arriving home, he starts noticing pains in his neck, marks, and burns…much like Jack noticed in the premiere and other scenes in the FSW. It ends, much like Lost, where the person realizes that they did indeed die, and the pain was real in another life, so to speak. And they both end up dying/being dead in the end.

I knew this was right…but they threw me off course by pressing the issues with “FLASH sideways”, and I got caught up in the FSW being “real” and went the direction of “parallel” timelines…damn…oh well, alls well that ends well…and I feel Lost did end well.

The island, and everything that happened on it was real…everything.
What happened on the island was the main story about a group of people that landed on an island saving the world from darkness, and being given the gift of eternal light.
The island was a scientific/spiritual marriage of light and dark, essential to the existence of the world, and the energy can be used for either good or evil…all depending on the eye of the beholder.

The story on the island is separate from the FSW because it could have occurred completely without it, and yet with it, we were able to see that these bad people…these “flawed” individuals have made up for things that occurred in their past and gotten the redemption that they needed to get.

The whispers explained earlier were more than likely what they were explained as…spirits of people trapped on the island. Which is why Michael isnt there…Walt was too tall to fit into the room apparently.
;]
This made me look at Anthony Coopers character more, he got what he deserved…this was most likely not the real Cooper though, more like a reflection of what our characters saw him as…or should be…I would imagine the real Cooper is on the island with Michaels spirit.

I think they took a lot of chances with this episode, and I think they knew what they were doing all along. The show has always been based on faith, no matter what anyone has ever said…and the finale proved it to everyone.
They knew they were going to do this, and they found a way to make it happen in a way that I felt played very well into what I have always viewed Lost as. Purgatory was a reference/theme from the first season (Gary Troupe)…lets not forget that.

The island was not purgatory, as some believed. If anything gets that label it was the FSW.
There is no time there, no limits. People who die appear as they would to the person they are interacting with.
Hurley obviously died well after Jack did, but they are there…together…all of them. That is all that matters in “The End”.

Its an interesting take on “Live Together, Die Alone” if you think about it…sacrifice and die alone…to live together forever.

I loved all the reunions from Jack and Kate (“I missed you so much”), to Sawyer and Juliet (“Come here Blondie”)…even Sayid and Shannon was bittersweet…and I love that I hoped they would all end up together…at least I sort of called one thing, lol…
One reunion stood out to me though…the reunion between Claire and Charlie was amazing.
It was really the most emotional realization for me throughout the entire show, and easily the happiest of all for me to see last night…no idea what it was…it just really got me.

I must say…its quite annoying to hear people say how pointless Chritian was…or even worse Aaron.
These people were beyond important. They were the constants that some of our characters needed to connect. Aaron began Kates initiation into enlightenment in the FSW by her simply seeing his toy. Then her and Claire connected through the “delivery”…and Charlie connected through Aarons touch!
Christian was ultimately what brought Jack to the other side…after a brief encounter with Kate who I just mentioned. Christians casket alone was enough to give Jack “a little push”, then he got pulled in by the love of his fathers hug…

These people may not have been the KEYS to Lost…but they were the keys to certain characters finding themselves. Without Aaron…who knows who may have NOT gotten connected on the other side. Claire was not supposed to raise Aaron…but she is supposed to be his mother.
Aaron was beyond important…beyond the island…
Why did he need her love and goodnes…I dont care. I was happy with what I got.

The whole time Jack was letting Des turn off the light, I couldnt figure out what he was doing…and then I saw Locke bleed…he took away his power. When he said “Im going to kill you” and “Its a surprise” earlier…wow…great scenes with Jack.
It was great to see the showdown on the cliff in the rain, epic actually. And to see Locke get killed by jack in that manner was really quite amazing…loved Jack getting stabbed.

Him being stabbed by Locke also goes back to my “Owl Creek/Occurrence” though…
Remember the scar in the mirror…it wasnt from his appendix…it was HOW HE DIED…being stabbed by Locke…the knife wounds gave that away for me easily. Wonderfully done throughout the season.

On Jimmy Kimmel after the show, he asked Harrold Parineau why he thought Michael wasnt in the room with them at the end. He said he thought Michael did bad things, and died (add in:within the radius of the island)…and figured he was trapped there as he told Hurley…making the like the island a hell itself TO SOME, as was interpreted in “Ab Aterno”.

I think this same thing is what was happening to MIB. He was a human, who was willing to go to any length to get off the island. He went with people that he admitted were bad, manipulative, power-hungry people and tried to build the wheel to leave the island.

Jacob technically killed him, but as mother said, what happened to MIB was worth than death, which is where the losties ended up in “The End”.
He ended up trapped on the island, like I think Michael is…except that due to being thrown in the light at the end of the tunnel upon death…he was able to materialize through the black smoke, and actually find a way to get off the island…a loophole.

Unfortunately for him, this was also the loophole that Jack used to kill him.

I obviously wasnt a fan of the plane leaving…but as soon as I saw Lapidus…I knew what was going to happen.
Just so people understand too…the reason Kate, Sawyer, and the rest could leave on the plane and still be with them in the FSW and church at the end is because the FSW is the purgatory…the place with no measurement of time…they wait until they all are together…which was very important throughout the entire show…them doing things together, leaving nobody behind…

Time is only relevent to the living…in the FSW…NOBODY was alive…most just dont realize they, themselves, are dead.

And even in death, when the ones who did realize waited for the others to “let go”, and they wouldnt leave each other in “The End” until they did…

Lost proved to be a playground for intellectuals hunting for fun, and a letdown for people seeking handout answers. Some of these answers are right in front of our faces, and others are meant to mythology of what was Lost. We dont learn how the “Force/Darkside” works in “Star Wars”…or how the “Sirens” in the “Odyssey” are able to pull in ships with a simple song…its mythological interpretation left entirely up to the viewers/readers, because when compared to what the story was REALLY about…what it REALLY stood for…its pointless.

Lost is a show that I for years…tried to breakdown and unlock, mostly to no avail…
Lost is a show that I will never forget due to what it has given me on a site like this…with people like you…
Lost is a show that proved one thing that I have said all along that no one can take away…

Lost is a show about science and technology paving the way for hope, faith, and spirituality…

As the last thing I ever post here, I would like to reiterate something that I wrote before…something I truly believe with all my heart.
This is a short (slightly edited) excerpt from a theory I wrote right before the season began…and I still believe it now that Lost is over…
Its from, “The Greatest Theory That I Have Ever Seen…”

“The creators of Lost wanted to give us their perspective of what would occur if time travel was
possible…they researched, they went to the depths of the minds of some of the greatest writers
in the world. They scoured the pages of the bible, they reincarnated Buddhism. They poked
around in Steven Hawking’s library. They played mind games with the greatest philosophers in the
known history of the world. They wrote a story about the lives of survivors of a plane crash on an
island, and came up with nothing short of genius for an answer…only giving us small pieces and
clues to decipher and decode at a time…

Leaving us …scrambling to solve the equation before they wrote the final answer on the
chalkboard…to what is in my opinion, the single greatest science fiction/spiritual plot device ever invented…
They convinced me…all of us, to research…to explore, to study, to search….to learn… all the very
same subjects they researched, explored, studied, searched… and of course learned….
We had to go through the same thing to truly understand…
It is the very same questions that they are answering themselves…

How would time travel play a role in history if it was to exist?
How would it…how could it affect the soul?.…and to me, their answer… is “the
greatest theory I have ever seen.”

How anyone can feel “cheated” or even let down is beyond me…but Lost is, was, and always will be a show based on perception…what you see…what you choose to see, or choose NOT to see is up to you, and what you get in “The End”.
It has given me peace and happiness, and at the same time caused nosebleeds and craziness right here on this site.
I urge you all to let go of questions and answers, and enjoy what they have given us…their story.

Just like in LOST…the light at the end of the tunnel is what you allow it to be…

One more time…thank you all very, very much for your time… and I will miss you all very, very much…

-Abbot Enheduanna Schwarzschild

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Lol…If Im wrong forgive me…
As you can see, bored and thinking about Lost…
So Im going to be a dick, and put someone on the spot…

I have been thinking about the event coming up in the FSW, and I think my friend Achalli…may know what is going to happen…although I am posting this…he knows the info better than I…so…

As per “Illuminatus”…what is AMA, what did they do, and what was the purpose of it all…?
(minus the Nazis of course…just the jist of the idea)

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What They Died For was my favorite episode of the season so far…I think the biggest thing that happened was overshadowed by major expectations, and of course…Jacob…

This episode brought OUR characters back…many of them at least.
The people off island are who we know them for, most of them…and they are on track to help the others see what Des was trying to show them.
Hurley obviously remembers from his Ana Lucia comment…
Ben saw a punch in the face from another life through the rightful hands of Desmond Hume…
And in John Locke…I saw the John Locke I remember…the Man of Faith…

On island, we have Jack stepping up, being the person we all knew he was.
Lets be honest…we all knew Jack would eventually get to this point…whether he is allowed to follow through is yet to be determined.
His taking the role of Island Protector may possibly give him something that even Desmond Hume doesnt possess…physical connections with his on island self, hence the bleeding in the FSW.

I think its quite possible that Jack is only supposed to exist in one place because of his role…the island…

What they died for was, in my opinion put very well by Jacob…although the loose story also leaves everything open for a “Who is the good guy?” surprise at the end…lets not mistake sloppy storytelling for a plot twist…jacob still threw his brother into a place that was worse than death…in no way making him completely “good”.

This episode really put the entire show into perspective for me…and by doing so…there is no way I can be disappointed in the end…
Ive learned to accept what this show gives me, and to stop expecting so much in return…if I were the writers Id be wondering what some of you want from them…

They have given us an amazing story, with nothing but originality along the way…for every person that writes a theory saying “I wouldnt mind seeing this happen”…theres ten people saying “That would be the worst ending ever”…and I think more than anything, we as theorists, came up with so many beautiful ideas, that open minded individuals are the only ones who are going to not sit and wonder what they did with their lives for the last six years. If you are not ready for the unexpected…for what would possibly be a terrible ending, or what could even be something that doesnt even correspond with anything we really know, such as a Hanso, or another “Across the Sea” type of scenario.

They are telling THEIR story…they are doing things that have never been done, and pass or fail…its beautiful art.
Please take the time and effort to see it for what its worth.

I thought about some of these things that happened in “WTDF” throughout week, and realized how much I can really control what I like in the long run…

Several things were answered, and I have completely decided that what they give us is going to be enough for me at this point…here are some examples…

The ash I think becomes significant, as Jacobs touch does from a single scene that the episode title refers to…

In Jacob going off island and touching them off island, he also…

1)Proteceted them from self inflicted death…and honestly…I know it has some holes…but his touch is ultimately what I feel saved them from death in the crash of 815, and allowed them to make it this far.

2)Everyone can not see Jacob because he is burning the ash…only the candidates, or chosen ones…simply put…if Jacob touched you, you can he him after death when his ash is burned…
Its probably just some physical/conscious interaction, via Lost Mythology…
This is why Sawyer and Desmond see Jacob…Richard was never a candidate…he was a staff member.

I really liked what they did, and although everything was not exactly explained…they still explained what is necessary…its like “the light”…do you really think they will tell us EXACTLY what it is…

Dont yell at Lindelof and Cuse either…Lucas never told us what the force was…we just knew that it was part of a gift of “light” or “dark”, whichever the one in possession of it chose to use it as…This is the Light of the Island in my opinion…

Whatever you want it to be.
Call it a cop out, call it not answering everything…thats what it is. There is no answer to a power that can obviously be used for good or evil. It would be ridiculous to label something of that ability. It may be electromagnetic, but its power should still not be labeled in such a way.

This is why I believe that Mother MAY have been a smoke monster as well…although it may never be answered directly on the show…I assure you, it is the least of my worries at this point…

If she was in fact the only person on the island that was representing both sides, maybe this is why she passed it on to BOTH children…in hopes that neither ever had to go through that problem.
I wont like it if they dont tell us…but its something easy to live without.

The only other option is that there was another person in the equation that we never saw…some pakistani on my couch suggested that Eloise Hawking could be that opposite…this would be interesting actually.

If she is the opposite, it would tell why she seems to know everything on and off the island. It would also explain why she is so desperate to get the FSW to be reality…she plays the biggest role of all…giving instructions to Mr Desmond Hume…

People said it was Dans notebook before…so what is it now…?
The only thing I can think is that Des goes back in time and tells her. He tells her everything that happens, and that she needs to do these things to save the world…

Des does this, and upon doing it, destroys the island in the FSW, to stop it from happening…this is why the island still exists in 2007 now…because Des destroys it in the FSW past.

I think in doing so, he MAY also attempt to kill the Losties in the FSW future…
He is seemingly gathering them all together in the same place…hoping to “show them something”…what else could he be trying to do?

He has to be trying to kill them in at least one place or the other…
What does showing them anything do for them in the FSW?

Is it the music…are they going to play michael giacchinos themes from Lost and make everyone remember? Will David, Charlie, Liam, Dan, and whoever else play Chopan, and bring everyones consciousness together…maybe “You All Everybody”…or “Dharma Lady”…?
The most fun thing I could imagine would be to see them all go to a Geronimo Jackson concert together, lol…

Seriously though, does it snap them out of what is happening on the island, bring their full conscious together off island, wiping away the past horror of everything that happened?

That would make some sort of sense…but there would still be an island to protect, and a Monster in Black to kill…

That leaves us with the remaining four, and of course Locke, Ben, Miles…and I hope Richard…on the island…

The scene with Jacob explaining the reason why they are there was the most pivotal scene in the show thus-far…in my humble opinion…

I can see the issues with Jacob though…

Truth is, he had a choice…about as much as the one he gave the Losties really.

I really question of Jacob really brought the Losties to the island, or just “chose” them because he knew of them be cause they travelled back in time…that makes the most sense, and why he would visit Sawyer first chronologically speaking.
What if thats true, and he didnt actually chose them, they were already chosen due to travelling back in time. That would make Jacob simply the guy who tried to help them with something that they were going to go through no matter what.
NOBODY made any of them come back…everyone gets a choice…

The only reason its a choice, is because the ones who came back to the island, after they had left…are the ones who are the candidates…all except for James…he never left…
But he did make the choice to stay when he could have left on the helicopter…or sub…and he convinced Juliet from getting on the Sub as well.

Still, Sawyer seems to stand out. In another post I noted that james was the only one who was touched by Jacob BEFORE the incident happened. He was also the only one to break a mirror in the FSW…something I cant help but find significant.

Lets not forget either, way back when, the others had Jack, Hurley, Kate, and Sawyer on the dock…they let Hurley go to tell the other 815ers to stay away…but not revealing that these were the people on Jacobs list…THESE FOUR PEOPLE EXACTLY WERE THERE!

One last thing makes me question Sawyer as being very important…and its from season one…”White Rabbit”.

I think on top of everything that happened in that episode, I noticed something when watching it again…White is obviously a solid reference, as is Jack following him as Alice did the rabbit…
But in that episode, all of the candidates are seen wearing white shirts, many of them together…and the only one who is not seen in white…is James “Sawyer” Ford…
Ill give you three guesses what color his shirt was…

Nope, not turquoise…nope…he want pretty in pink that day…he was wearing black…

James Ford could very well be the one who MIB attempts to use as a way to get home…not sure how…but I think about people saying mother passed on the torch to both Jacob and MIB, I think about Jacob passing the torch to Jack, and I question who gets the job on the “dark” side…?

If its true that there has to be balance…in the force…why not Sawyer?
People have said this for quite some time that he could play that role…and in the end, it could help my theory of Kate killing him come true…

One thing that really throws me off is David…he is the only one that we are aware of, who didnt just lived longer than he did in another life…but exists in another life where he didnt in the past one.
That HAS to mean something for Jack, and could also mean something for a certain fertility doctor…there has to be a reason they havent shown her yet…makes some sort of sense.

This is why I think that Jack is not going to end up being the one to save the island. Its why I think that he has an even greater role to play…father.
He must be able to do what haunted him his entire life, his fathers inability to live up to HIS standards. He must be the father to David that Christian couldnt be to him…

Thats all if the FSW is left standing at the end of this monstrosity.

Its been mentioned now that Ben is most likely tricking the monster in some way.
He did have a plan from the beginning. He took the walkie talkies from Charles most obviously to use them in the future, but Im sure it was also done so that Charles couldnt hear what he was telling Locke outside.

Hopefully Miles makes it to the losties with the walkies before MIB gets him…and hopefully Ben was smart enough to turn his down so that if they try and contact him, “Locke” doesnt hear it…
Either way, Bens role will most likely be monumental at this point…

I really think this is leading us off course of something else happening and Jack not playing the role he has already accepted, or die in the process leaving someone else to have to do it But first he HAS to have the “Luke/Vader” showdown with Christian…now that Jack has replaced Jacob, I imagine MIB may be able to change forms again…this will possibly be how he knows it happened

As for who could take Jacks place…I think that by the process of necessity off island…Kate could very well end up being the one left.
IF Sayer ends up with Juliet, which I think he will…then Jacks Ex would have to be someone else most likely…I really think that it will be Juliet, but if not, then I think Sarah will be the one.

Hurley would have Libby off island, and he would have a reason not to be the person who stays.
Jack obviously David…

We dont know if James still has a daughter…if he does, then it would give him a reason to not be the protector…leaving only Kate…and wlthough her name is crossed off, its just a chalk line…and I think its possible that because of her unimportance off island, she may be the one who stays instead.

Seriously though…I cant get the idea of John Locke still being the one. I always thought it would be…but maybe his role will be important in a different way…regardless, I have hopes that one way or another, John Locke will save them all.

Now…Im going to end this with something I noticed, and I dont know if anyone else did…because they are real…I dont know how this could be a continuity error…

When Jacob is sitting around the campfire, telling them “what they died for”…we see all of the people plain and clear…and there is one thing VERY off with the whole thing…

Jack does not have his tattoos…

Call it an error if you want…but I have to ask…now that we have the FSW, is Jack missing what the tattoo says…Does he not only walk among us, but is he also now “one of us”…?

Dont forget though…thats what the tattoo says…but it means…A leader, a great man, lonely, frightened, and angry…now that the tattoo is gone…Jack doesnt have to be angry anymore…or lonely and frightened…he doesnt have to lead anyone but his son…

If Im right, Jack has a purpose in the FSW, and although Kate or James would do a bang up job protecting the island…I wouldnt want to see anyone but John Locke get the ultimate redemption, and have his faith rain true in being the last one left…and getting to hear him say “Dont tell me what I cant do”, one more time…

I very much see how this could all play into everyone getting what they want off island, but I cant help but think that there is still more to it, and that Desmond is up to something we couldnt predict in the FSW…that he is going to show them something…unexpected…

No matter what happens, this has been a great ride, and thank you ALL very much for everything over the years…I keep saying its my last post, its my last post…and I keep writing another one…but anything else at this point has most likely been pointed out already…

If someone can get some confirmation of the tattoos (my DVR did NOT record the episode)…it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again to everyone here at theoriesonlost, Emzi, and everyone that ever commented on one of my posts…I seriously dont know what Im going to do when its over…but I cannot WAIT to see what happens…and there is NO ending or lack of information that would EVER change my view of this show, and what it has given me over the last few years.

Im sure Ill have a million things to add to this, but I really am not planning another theory…

Last week we found out what exactly the people died for, and what most likely Jack sacrificed for…the very same episode I realized why I watched this show…and the end, the finale…is what I lived for…

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR TIME!!!
ENJOY THE FINALE…and I cannot wait to discuss everything that happens with everyone when its all over…

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This is probably the shortest post I ever created…

Does everyone still think that the FSW is the happy ending? (or even ending in general?)

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Dear Charles Widmore,

Ok Chuck, lets get down to brass tacks…

Whats going on here?
We ALL know you know. You walk around with a smug look all the time, not letting anyone have your million dollar whiskey…with your fancy art and “look at me”, I have a submarine…
Its not cute anymore.

You know where people will pop up after turning the wheel…at least you knew where John was going to pop up…

I know you had something to do with the purge…but I havent figured out which side you were truly on…at least the first time around…

You think you have nightmares now…wait until this monster starts running around in your head in the FSW…

Do me a favor…leave Desmond Hume alone…the guys got a wife and kid…find someone else to go into your stupid light for you. Just because he can take a EM shock and you cant…doesnt mean he wants or has to…dick…
Yes…I told you what you “cant do”…and there is nothing you can do about it.
Seriously…leave Des alone, hes your son in law for gods sake…

I really hope Ben Linus kills you…I really do. I dont care if hes right or wrong anymore…I miss the Ben I knew and loved, and I hope he manipulates and destroys you…you are not special…are you?
And you know what…I hope the monster helps him. Your stupid fences are worthless as long as he has someone to turn them off…

And you geologist…I hope she is the one who did it…and I hope Smokey kills her too…

Seriously…whats your deal?

Where are you from?
Did you come here from “across the sea”…or are you from here?

Who are your parents? Are they dead? Were they on the show?
Is JACOB your father?

Or are you a Dharma kid, plucked out of the equation to help play a role on the “others”?

Did Alpert “save” you , as he saved young Ben? Was Richard ALWAYS younger than you…no, of course not…is HE your father somehow…
When did you outrank him, and did you earn it…or did you take it?

Were you chosen for it, as many of the shows leaders seemingly were?

If you DONT know whats going on, or DONT want to tell me…Ill just assume your a power hungry old bastard with nothing but the islands energy in your mind…
You have seen what it can do…you have seen it travel through time, heal the sick, allow the paralyzed to walk again…
You have seen it send people to the other side of the world, and probably know that it can grant immortality, and even that it can turn you into a large pillar of smoke.

If you DO know whats going on…and you are going to tell me…than you’re even more slime for not telling me already.

You had better have some good news for me…Ive been patient…we all have…and WE ALL KNOW…that you know…

Sincerely,
A.E.S.

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I find it hard to believe that this has not come up…but I have not heard it anywhere…
Its something that makes me really believe that there is something significant missing from “Across the Sea”…

We all have been basing ideas on someone taking over Jacobs role, and someone taking over MIBs role…some great thoughts exist because of that very debate…

But I have a serious issue, and since nobody else has brought it up…

Who is “Mothers” better half?

Not necessarily her husband…but who is MIB to her Jacob…?
Who is the Sawyer to her Jack, or even the Jack to her Locke?
Who is the woman of science to her woman of faith?

The whole show up to this point has revolved around light vs dark, 2 sides…and yet, so many keep coming up with Jacob/MIB replacements…has anyone ever stopped to think…

What if there is not supposed to be two sides?

What if the second side is what causes the problem…as far as we know…nobody, even Claudia, knew MIB was coming…hell, even mommy looked a little surprised…

In the Illuminatus Trilogy (I REALLY dont want to get too into it here), a book that I cannot explain to anyone in less than a few thousand words, there is an island much like Lost…and much like Lost, there seems to be a tranquility on this island.
This lasts up until someone starts to wonder what else exists…what else is possible…

This person basically starts a war on the island, and releases a powerful monster (which I FULLY believe has some reference to smokie) which in the long run, results in the island being sunk, and their temple/monument being destroyed except for one well known piece…sound familiar?

The leftover inhabitants are forced to leave the island, and reside in the real world as we know it, creating secret societies and using religion and politics as a front…some may know this today as the Illuminati…or people who illuminate…or bear light.
While off island, these people go through an array of instances and moments where they see things that they know and recognize as real, even after they snap out of it and realize that they were not exactly seeing what they saw physically.
(There are several psychedelic drug references…”Hes our You”, and all of Jacks off island binges seem very reminiscent)

Then for the rest of the book, we follow someone who may very well be an ex-inhabitant(Ok Achalli…maybe Hagbard is Widmore)…who gathers many aboard his SUBMARINE in an effort to find the island again…

SO is it MIB that actually started with the 2 sides business…or was it mom?

He likes to play games…but…she said she put the game there for him…if she brought the people to the island, she may not be lying. Hmmm…

The point is, that I have a hard time believing that there are really supposed to be two people to replace Jacob and MIB…which is why I have been saying only one name at a time, such as Jack, Locke, or more recently Kate…(although Sawyer is a possibility, it doesnt seem as likely to me)…

And because this started out a question, and got turned into a theory…Ill end on a question…

Do you think there is supposed to be two people to replace MIB and Jacob…or one to replace Mom…?

And if there is supposed to be two…then who is “Mothers” better (or worse) half?

Thank you for your time…

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I know where the well is that Jacob threw his brother in…its in the TEMPLE!!!

I dont know if this is just common knowledge, and Im stupid and missed it, or if its something new…
Either way, I just thought of it, and want to throw it out there.

Jacob puts the others in place to help the temple…trying to show his brother that people are good, and are willing to risk their lives to help save the light. He believes people can do good…

MIB, is hell bent on proving Jacob wrong…so what does he do…tries and sway people the other way. He succeeds by offering Sayid “whatever he wants most in the world” to kill Dogen, and finish off the job…which he obliges to…

If he can ultimately prove Jacob wrong…he will be allowed to go “home”, which is at the very least across the sea…whether the island is a part of that is yet to be determined. To win the game, and truly kill Jacob…He must succeed in both…
Benjamin Linus was the first step to get through the loophole, ie…taking a person who is capable of good, as we see in the FSW, and actually convincing him to not just kill many people, but his own father…and not just his own father…but his “lord and savior”…in flesh and blood with his own hand!!!

What MIB didnt count on was having the other Losties be so stubborn in doing good. He didnt count on Hurley using a Star Wars reference to amp up the Losties to leave the dark side, and jump ship back to the force…He didnt count on Sayid of all people sacrificing himself to save anothers life…possibly giving up “what he wants most”.

Also…MIB knew Locke wasnt just some pathetic fool…lets not forget, he lies quite often.
He eventually got to use his body because of that, but I believed he eliminated John Locke because he was the hope of the people…he may not be the candidate in the end (although I dont rule it out)…but he definitely played the role of “man of faith”, in having faith in man…

He always gave people the benefit of the doubt, Charlie, Eko, even Jack…
He always believed that jack was supposed to stay, no matter what Jack said or did…even after he tried to kill him…remember when the gun wasnt loaded?

John Locke may have actually known what to do…somewhere in the back of his head..the question is…in the FSW, does he know now?

Keep an ear out, I really think that when Jacob died, the light may have went out…hence the “dirty” water…
Maybe it dimmed, maybe it wasnt the main source…maybe it was just the most direct connection…Jacob knew this from sending MIB down there, and built the temple to protect the one thing that matters most…the light…

Whether a scientific disaster in the future, The Light of God, or Hell itself…Jacob has seen the power it possesses, and will do anything possible to protect it…even die.

But someone else has to protect it once he is gone…and it cannot go out…I feel like I have a double sided coin with jacks face on both…but I still cant help but feel that Locke will intervene, and be the one who stays.

I dont think that BOTH a new Jacob and MIB are necessary… if there is a balance between black and white inside an individual…Hell maybe Locke will end up on the beach talking to Locke…

Let me hear what you think…and as always…Thank you for your time.

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…The witch is dead…
At least the Mother of Jacob and MIB…

And since she is dead, I will ask a few questions that hopefully doesnt lead to more question…(trying to keep straight face)…

-Why is it that MIB cant change forms after Jacob is dead?

-When MIB killed her…I swear I thought I heard her say “thank you”…could he have sent her home(FSW)?

-Ok…I get that Claudia doesnt know she is pregnant with twins…there are no sonograms in that time…so….

HOW DID SHE KNOW IT WOULD BE A BOY?!?!?!

She had the name Jacob all ready to go, yet was surprised by MIB…did light and dark get split upon entering the island?

-Lastly, and possibly most important…with so much focus on it prior to this…

WHERE THE HELL WAS THE STATUE?!?!?!?!

Sooo…wtf is going on…?

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No more Aaron is MIB theories…ever again!!!

So now I have to ask…why does Flocke ask Desmond if he knows who he is?
He is obviously no Lostie…

How good would it be if his name was “Ray”?

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So I said I was done with the theories, and its a little premature for a comeback…but I wanted to throw one more in…mostly because I forgot to add it into my ‘last’ theory…
Ill make it short, sweet, and to the point…something I have had trouble doing in the past…

Ok…so several times I have said that I think the island could very well be from the future, and possibly the last piece of land on earth…the off island timelines are just ways for Jacob/MIB to go anywhere/time they want using the time travel properties of the island to pluck out the variables, or Losties, to get what they want. I wanted to add one last thought to that…

Tunisia…

I always had this crazy thought…

What if…the island is actually located in Tunisia…
Not right this second, but it WAS Tunisia, and that is where the “machine” was originally built.

When doomsday arose, the land that is now the island contained something along the lines of the CERN project tunnels (hence the octagon shout out), and had its own large underground tunnel that acted in a similar manner.

When the wheel was turned, or however it was first moved, the land separated from Tunisia…and flashed to the other side of the world…where the island is today…
All of the tropical elements are simply attributed to either the islands prolonged stay in the South Pacific…or even maybe a way for the scientists to create a different climate all together in the middle of the desert (hence the polar bears and references to the artic)…eventually having an incident of their own, becoming LOST in time and space…

So when Ben and Locke turn the wheel…they actually flash to Tunisia because it is where the island would actually be in 2004/2007…

The island isnt just an island…its the last REAL thing containing life on the planet…and through what is left, they can make miracles happen, and change what has occurred to cause the catastrophe to begin with…

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Coming into the homestretch here…I have to be honest… This is probably the last real theory I am going to write about this show.
I realized something about the episode “The Candidate”…It was possibly the best Lost episode to date in my mind.
Now calm down, I know, I know…its not my favorite, but probably the best.
Why?

Because I dont think a full hour of the day has passed since it aired, that I have been conscious for, that I didnt think about it. Everyone who watches Lost was huddled up all day, the day after…everyone who watches Lost agrees that the death of Jin and Sun was extremely sad, and for the most part completely out of nowhere.

We had Locke on full blown rampage, breaking necks, and showing the entire Lost universe, that his plan was indeed to kill the Losties. Did he and Widmore set this up…or does he really just know everything? Does he read minds, can he SENSE the bomb due to his electromagnetic ability…he freed Ben from the metal chains with the flick of a wrist, but had to cut Desmond loose from cloth with a knife…”God” from the Machine…I do believe he is “machine” or at least created from it…(btw…machine=island)
We had Claire get left behind…again. I mean…Are you freakin’ serious…AGAIN!!!???
We had Sayid sacrifice himself, and tell Jack, “Its going to be you”, and prove Hurley to be true, that one who has gone to the dark side can return…just as Anakin…or who I think will act the role, MIB in our story.
We had Sawyer tell Jack…to push MIB into the water…and then he would take care of the rest…I dont say this very often…but WTF JAMES?!?! Great plan…Locke is fine, and his “taking care of everything”, consisted of Kate getting shot, Claire getting left behind, and HALF…yes HALF of the candidates, and Frank most likely being killed. Maybe…just maybe, he cant turn into the monster while he is wet. I know he is referred to many times as a “sodding old man”, but he did get out of the water quite slow for the smoke monster…have to wait and see if James was right…
Has Jack ever called Sawyer James before? Its amazing how he has taken over more of a role of Locke, than of Jacob.

These people, many of them are following Jacob, or MIB, both seemingly out of fear when you think about it. The people who followed Jacob, the others, they only followed because they had nowhere else to go…fear of the monster in the jungle…
The one who followed Flocke follow out of fear as well, for the same person.
Hell, think about Dogen…he followed Jacob out of fear of his sons life, Juliet out of the fear of her sisters…

Jack…Jack is not following either in my opinion. When he pushed John into the water, he said “John Locke told me…”. Jack DOES believe in John Locke now, his own personal “Obie One”, and I believe Hurley may help with communicating with Locke if my thought on Locke coming out in MIB falls through. Regardless…I believe that Jack is fighting for his belief in John… at the moment at least. More on this in a few minutes, back to what happened…

Speaking of Jack acting like Locke…
We had Sawyer, act in a way that was very reminiscent of Jack last year…thing is…Jack was possibly correct in what he did…Jugghead may not have been the mistake it once seemed…When Sawyer pulled the wires…you knew it wasnt over…we knew Sawyer was wrong…and Jack was right.

We had Jack more or less tell him so…and save him…and make the right choices, but still followed anothers lead…when will he get it?…yes…now. Whatever is supposed to happen, Jack is supposed to at least lead the charge, although I STILL believe that Locke is the candidate.
But I also believe that jack is going to try like hell to take JOHNS place as candidate…but I dont think that John will let him.

We saw Hurley cry, we saw Kate cry, we saw Jin cry, we saw Sun cry, and we saw Jack…ALMOST cry…and absorb it all…carry guilt…the resposibility…the PAIN…and he needs this pain to help him get where he is going…and he knows this…

As several know, I am a firm advocator of ‘change’, and the what happened, did indeed happen…to help change the past. Something, one way or another has been critically altered…you can bury your head in the sand…but everything is still going to be different when you pull it out…

Last year I wrote two posts stating for one, that Amy would end up being Amelia, and she would be a spy, or at least jump ship from the others, ending up being the old woman that has tea parties with juliet and the others…hence Ethans being an other as well…

The other thing that I bolstered about in those theories…was “Change” or time loops…and I still stand behind it.

Here are the links…I havent read them in quite a while, but I have to say it seems to be more or less, working pretty much as I hoped it would in those two theories, I definitely recommend reading them before this. They really dont seem that long ago, considering some of the predictions. The comments are good, but long…

Im telling you now, you are not going to understand everything I am talking about if you dont read them. Over the last few years so many have been patient with my purposely vague theories trying to really drive things home in the comments. So many have been patient with my improper use of punctuation, and rambling, almost incoherent, at times theories…so if you have, and you enjoyed any of it…this is the last one…so please, read the two links and the more than 150 comments inside, at least the ones that I wrote to understand my thoughts here…just like those theories, I am going to do everything possible to make it worth your while. Really…what else do you have to do…?

If people want to say Im crazy, or wrong, go ahead…maybe I will be. But in those two theories and comments, I talked about alternate timelines…coexisting, the Losties doing things they shouldnt (jugghead), where they would flash after they did…and most importantly…that they would indeed change the past.
Ive been quite honest here…quite polite with some of the BS I have put up with (not incinuating in any way I am the only one). Ive taken things from being arrogant and bullying, which Im not in any way and dont condone the bullying at all…defending my thoughts is not bullying, its simply defending my thoughts.
People have said I post spoilers here…most recently called a spoiler hunter…I cant even get mad at it anymore because its such a joke. As of up until this year, and even now I would say through this year, I have gotten maybe three or four minor details correct, aside from many “duh” answers, such as Des being in the sub and whatnot…I havent read a spoiler since season 2…and even then…I didnt even know what a spoiler was. I thought some genius was predicting Lost to a T…and was quite disappointed to learn what a geek I had become over a television show…

If you want to say I follow spoilers, and post them here…as I know some have and do…not to break my polite nature…but you can @*$# off…that being said…Thank you very much to anyone who reads further. One person reading and enjoying this is worth every second writing it. I try to ignore everything I have learned about writing a serious theory in real life, and tried to really put emotion and feeling into each one here…I dont apologize or regret anything up to this point anymore…and if you have a problem with what I have done in the past…might want to jump ship from this one now…

Im going to base my last theory on my two favorite and trouble making posts of the past…and here we go…

Amy…Am I wrong?

and

Am I wrong?…part two…linking 2 seperate theories

No matter which way you cut it at this point, it seems there has been changing of the past on Lost.

If the FSW turns out to be the real world, something I called bluff on quite a bit this season, then that would mean one of two things…

1) The original timeline, the one where “what happened, happened”, was altered by use of the hydrogen bomb, and the island was sunk. Therefor not allowing the plane to crash, and changing the past… by going to the past, and changing the future.
The island wasnt there, there was no button to push, and the plane lands safely in LA, with all of the past being seemingly ‘flashed away’, with nothing but fading(or building) memories left over. But with these memories, they would be able to connect with their old selves, and remember not only the current FSW past, but the ‘erased past’ of earlier seasons as well.

other option…

2) The bomb didnt sink the island, it neutralized the energy, and actually caused what we see happening now on island to occur as well. The past that was changed, was the FSW past, which is why NOW the losties remember their on island past, because it is now their actual past…the old past, with Jacob is slowly being erased by old memories, when certain events trigger such a thing, such as electromagnetism, Love, Death, and physical contact…or touch. Ill tell you why this NOW makes more sense to me…somewhat when we get a little further.

Change…change…change…you can yell “alternate timeline” or “WHH” from the top of the mountain…but Ill just stand here and whisper “change”…Even if in the end its the FSW that is real, and I was incorrect about it…then it would still be altered by the island timeline…”change”.

Sooo… if what I say about Amy/Amelia is true, then we havent seen it yet. We also havent seen the Swan get put into action, who actually caused the purge, and any other missing links…and they all seem pretty important in my eye. Because of when the DI was purged, it doesnt make sense because it isnt immediately after the incident…so there is either another reason why the others attacked…or the others didnt attack until they were urged to by another voice…
Jacob…?
MIB (Locke)…?
How about Charles Widmore…from 2007…
What if there was another option? Something that cleared up a few of my earlier predictions, and answered a few unanswered questions as well…

If the island didnt sink, then it becomes quite obvious that the Dharma Initiative gains perspective through the Losties actions with Jugghead, and Chang/Radzinski would most likely order the Swan to work immediately in order to continue to neutralize the effects of the energy, as the bomb did…

What if we see the someone(?) turn the wheel again, and go back to the 70s? Maybe upon their return, they flash back to the FSW reality of the island…and this person flashes to Tunisia in 2004 FSW…

We need to see those things happen, because if the island did NOT sink because of the bomb, and it actually kept it afloat…it still has to sink right? It would be an island that Ben and his father discussed over a TV dinner one night, and could prove to be how and why the Swan gets built…that has got to be explained right?

So the DI ships Widmore off, and then soon after he appears again, ordering the Others to conduct the Purge…or maybe its even Flocke that orders it…that would almost make more sense.
Richard would remember him from the 50s, and do what he says because they already saved the island twice by burying Jugghead, and then detonating it to neutralize the energy (which is why option 2 above makes more sense now).
Who knows…maybe even ageless Richard made the call. Nobody would know the difference because he looks the same…actually giving purpose to his not aging, and completely blowing an older Bens mind as he watches his younger self take orders from what he now knows as a time traveller…that would be pretty nuts…

One group goes to the others, probably the Losties, and the other group goes to the DI, probably Widmore, making my thoughts on his eventual jumping ship to the others come true. Amy may not get off the island, but goes to the others out of fear, and to protect her child.

I would like to take a shot at doing something many have…answering who MIB is…if he is someone we know, and not the devil, god, Hanso, or DeGroot…Im not sure I believe any of this…I think it may be explained that MIB and Jacob are two different entities, and always were…but just in case…

With the understanding that the book “Bad Twin” was dumped by the creators of the show, I still believe there was some clue, if in nothing else but the title…here are my possibilities for Bad Twin…aside form the two Johns…

1) The obvious…Jacob and MIB.
Somehow through the islands electromagnetic properties, one was split into two, one light…one dark and they became who we know them as, Jacob and MIB.

Or… even more simple option…is that they are actually brothers by blood…

Im not sold on either of these…So I have to go with my gut if MIB is a character that we actually know…yep…Im going there…

2) Aaron is MIB…this is probably the most far fetched, IMO…but for whatever reason makes some sort of stupid sense.

Here is my idea of how this is somehow possible…

Aaron begins to grow up in the flash sideways and returns to the island in the future by flashing, and then at some point soon, it goes back in time, very far back…and he is “raised by ‘an-other'” and begins to grow up as two different people, because he feels the effects of BOTH timelines from the future, because he exists in both, possibly why Walt is special…

As he grows up, he is approached by the monster, and is somehow taken to one of the wells where it proceeds to “swap” conscious with Aaron, most likely through drowning, or at least water …and steal his body. (“Jacob stole my body”) The boy who grows up IS Jacob, and looks like Aaron, and Aaron is left in the form of the monster, possibly only able to take the form of Jacobs last body/form, which is MIB…yeah, its ridiculous, I just wanted to post an Aaron is MIB theory before it proves NOT true…

Honestly…its quite difficult for me to believe this scenario…the more likely answer, if he is anyone would be that he is in fact Christian, being the way he held Aaron when he first visited Claire in the jungle. That is of course if he is anyone we know. I wrote a theory called “Jacob is Bad, A Recession Proof Economy”, explaining that Jacob is off island, and is the Economist in the self titled episode..with that thought, Jacob could very well be the one controlling peoples souls, or at least governing their actions on and off island to a certain degree…MIB can control the body, Jacob can control the soul…it would be almost poetic if its true, and the story above of Aaron (be it him or anyone else) happens as stated.
If Jacob was actually using MIBs body, how funny it would be that MIB could not kill him…and can occupy the physical forms of the dead…so whay doesnt Jacob want MIB to kill him…so he cant get his body back!

I think Chrsitian is inside of Jacob…somewhere, and so is Isabel, and possibly even Michael.
Michael tried to stop Hurley from blowing up the plane…why?
Because if it blows up, they could die…and Jacob doesnt want them to die…because if they die, they go to the flash sideways…where there is no island.

Chances are that MIB is simply MIB…so I will play the last of my theory to that tune…but its fun to think about the scenario above, no? ALthough I cant help but still keep the idea of Locke coming through MIB on island…or at least controlling him a bit …

Maybe Jacob is the bad guy…maybe MIB is looking to fix what was done wrong so long ago to him…

Maybe Jacob is the economist, and the devil…but how would this make sense to the conversation on the beach with MIB…?

So Jacob seems to believe that people can be good, seemingly to represent “goodness”…

What if them being capable of doing good, only makes the fact that they have done bad so much worse? Think about it…if people are capable of being good, and they are not good…would that make them more responsible for their actions?

The Man in Black puts his hand in the cookie jar, not only because he knows that man will do bad, but they will do it out of faith of what is right…by simply waging war, man proves Jacob wrong…he tries to give people the benefit of the doubt…he tries to allow them a chance to just do the right thing…just as he hoped he was wrong about Ben killing him, he will be wrong about this as well…
Jacob simply implying that the monster is evil, even if its only a message for one man to tell another, ala Richard the advisor…he is still having someone make his move for him.

I think its Jacob that knows he has to keep someone on the island…so that he can one day steal his form and start this charade…this circle all over again…just as he did to MIB…

MIB is trying to stop it from happening. By killing the Losties, he is taking them out of the equation…he is making Jacob cross them off his list, and leaving him nowhere, or nobody to hide in…The reason why Aaron makes sense is because he is a child.
I think that him being clean of sin has a lot to do with everything…a Tabula Rasa if you will.
Maybe Aaron isnt MIB, but he is the body Jacob occupies…probably not, but I cant get it out of my head recently.

In my theory on Jacob being the economist, I question why MIB wants to go home so badly…is it to stop Jacob…or is it simply to go to a time that he does not exist.

It very much seems that by death, you can be connected to the flash sideways…If the two timelines can be connected in such a way, I have to believe that by dying on the island, they would flash to the FSW…just as Juliet seemed to do when she spoke of “going Dutch” just before she died.
I think that she will get to live her life off island as, at the very least an aunt to Julian, and sister to Rachael. Maybe she is Davids mother…maybe its Sarah…who knows at this point…but I dont doubt for a minute that her going Dutch could be with a certain detective.

I thought before that Sawyer was going to possibly die by the hands of Kate, due to him wanting to kill Jack…but now that James understands what making a mistake feels like…he may feel it is necessary to actually sacrifice his life for Jack, most likely in front of Kate…
This would allow Sawyer to die on island, sacrifice himself, making his own choice, and then being rewarded through being reincarnated into the FSW, and being reunited with Juliet.

I believe Hurley will die as well, and may possibly be the saddest death we see on Lost. Although in the end, it may able him to reconnect off island with Libby, and know what she knows, most likely remembering the island past.

Richard, Ben, and Miles will most likely arrive in time to help fight off Widmore…I really think that no matter whos side ben ends up on…it will be the opposite side as Charles Widmore. I feel that their grudge will hold up until one of them dies, most likely Widmore first…HOPEFULLY at the hands of either Ben or the Monster…

From that point Ben will more than likely sacrifice himself in a manner that makes up for all the things of the past…but I still think somewhere…somehow…Benjamin Linus has an ace up his sleeve. He has been a bit of a letdown this season from the perspective of his character…and I think he has a big finale waiting before his death…If he too connects with the FSW, how ironic would it be for him to actually hook up with Danielle…and become Alexs father?
Either that or he gets Annie back somehow…

Miles could very well talk to both Jacob(Im sure somehow the ashes are OK), and the bodies at the cave…who I still feel will be Rose and Bernard…”Only Fools are Enslaved By Time and Space”…and maybe even give away a huge secret before he bites it…I imagine the smoke monster may have something to do with it…Im sure he wouldnt like anyone giving away anything he has done in his past, plus due to what I say above about MIB possibly being the good twin…does it make sense yet?

I imagine, and hope that Richard Alpert will have the opportunity to be reunited with Isabel…he HAS to be able to make his own choice in his death though…I think thats what this is getting at…

Jacob took away the one thing that makes it very hard to believe he is good…choice. Although Richard asked and wanted to live forever…as MIB (and Chief) said, Jacob gave it to him in his most vulnerable time…
Although young James needed a pen…and wanted more than anything to write that letter and kill Cooper…Jacob gave him that opportunity in his most vulnerable time…

And on Cooper himself…I didnt feel the least bit sorry for the guy…he is a terrible person, and maybe was turned vegetable BEFORE he could dupe John…who knows…but bottom line…they are being reincarnated, and as I said earlier in the season, and a few time last year…what the do now…with this second chance…is everything to them.

I feel Jin and Sun are reunited off isalnd because they were willing to die together on island…and I feel Cooper is a vegetable, because even upon being brought to the island…he still spit in the face of John and Sawyer…and ruined his second chance…does hell escape if the island sinks…?
Maybe not technically…but I feel that if you deserved “hell”…then in your next life…after reincarnation…you get what you deserve…Destiny is a fickle bitch…but Karma is a Mother ______…

And through Dharma…Karma and reincarnation are able to take place…the bad…dont get to keep being bad. They dont keep getting second chances..this is now their last chance…Anthony Cooper doesnt deserve another chance…and this is the universes, and dare I say gods way of showing us what he does indeed deserve.

I think Sayid already made his choice on and off island. I think that he not only sacrifices his life, but he sacrificed Nadia as a wife because he didnt deserve her…but he did…and thats not fair…so why not give him his other love back…
Maybe Sayid runs into Shannon somewhere…maybe theyll get some coffee together too sometime…

Claire has to die…has to. Her death will not appear in vain though, as she will connect with her FSW self, and be reunited with Aaron. At least for a bit…

Thats leaves us with Locke, Jack, and Kate on the island…

As stated in previous posts…I think Helen is going to die of a brain aneurysm, and I think John may also proceed with the surgery. I think its very possible that while on the operating table, he and Jack may begin their fianal struggle on island. Being that we flashed back to the past, it may somehow resurrect Jacob, and we may have a fourth on island now as well. Maybe that is the purpose of the boy…maybe…

I think that Jack will try and be what everyone wanted and hoped he would be his entire life…a hero, a leader, and a great man. I think that it will come to a point where Jack has to make a decision between himself and John Locke, and will choose John. Achairaisthekey…where are you now…?
I really believe that the episode when Achaira tattoos Jack, and tells him that he will be a great man…it has very important significance. I think that what its translated to by Isabel, “He walks among us, but is not one of us”, refers to Jack as being one who can walk through time like Des can, who can heal the sick, and possibly be the great man and a leader…and if he is the one who Jacob would choose…would that not make him into the next MIB if the idea of Jacobs replacement involves him taking their body pans out? Which would make the “frightened and lonely” part that follows pretty understandable…something to think about…especially on a time travelling island.

As the story wraps up, I think Jack is going to start to see Christian off island again. and Christian is going to be pushing him to help save John, and help him walk again as well. This is the part when Jack will fully start to see the big picture…the one John has been trying to paint for him the entire time.

I think its very possible that Christain at some point was controlled or manipulated by both MIB (on island) and Jacob (off island).(Good and Bad twin?) And in the end, Jack will face them both in different timelines, and have to decide which one to follow. Lets not forget something…MIB said that he looked like Christan and that he was trying to help Jack…he never said that he wasnt Christain, of course he didnt say that he was either…and Jacob told Richard “that wasnt your wife”…he never said it wasnt him…

I believe that the war that takes place is known to Widmore because he lived through it in his past…the islands future. It may have been what sparked his off island journies, and what I think leads to HIM actually creating the DI with Hanso and DeGroot…in all reality…Hanso-DeGroot connection from the little that we know resembles a Widmore-Faraday connection in a similar manner, almost begging me to ask the question of loops, cycles, reincarnation, or even family ties between the parties. Faraday worked out of Ann-Arbor, the same as DeGroot, and both of their main contributions came from foreign men on the outside who seemingly took them in, paid for research, and pushed them to the island at the same time. They were in search of something very important…a great power. The question is now the motive…and I do believe that Widmore was and is the bad guy of the story…and I cannot help but question his ties to Hanso further in regards to their purpose and desire.
Was it simply power? Or were they truly trying to do good for the world as we know it?

The scariest thing in the world to many is that the island is a spaceship…I have to agree that it is a possibility that a show originally created by JJ Abrams could very easily sway the direction of aliens in the last 5 minutes…be prepared for anything…thats the only way I have made it this far on Lost…

Now…If this is at all true, I would really like to believe that the island is actually an asteroid, or something to that nature…Chief wrote a theory a while back saying that it could end up being the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs…I found it a great thought, a way to allow the existence of alien life, and at the same time, keep us here on earth for the remainder of the show, and keep some of us in better moods when it is all said and done.

If you know the actual book “The Little Prince”, then there is no need to read about it, it just connects the dots in a way to show how it makes sense that the island is an asteroid, and how MIB or Jacob could be the prince…(see my thought above as Jacob/MIB/Aaron to update the theory)…The episode about who was after Aaron off island was called “The Little Prince”…

So…then I really started thinking…what if we are taking all of the many clues they have given us about “aliens” out of perspective? If someone from one country lives in another, they are considered an alien…so if someone from one time period inhabits another…would they not be an alien too?
To take it a step further, if someone from another timeline, not just time period inhabited another time line…another life, or existence, or universe…would they not be more alien than someone who simply occupied another counrty? What if the island is actually the “asteroid”, but it isnt from space, its from another timeline…and Jacob or MIB is the Little Prince, amazed at the peoples perspectives from “another life”…and how they act in this world…

So lets say for a minute that my Jacob idea above does pan out…whether MIB is Aaron or not, and whether Jacob is Aarons body or not…
Either way…SOMEONE from the future…from another timeline…Aaron, who had the title of an episode named “the little prince”, traveled from the future, to the island…to another timeperiod, in another timeline…and was taken over by whatever MIB is…and Jacob was…

How could he travel there? Because in the timeline on island we are seeing play out, someone will turn the wheel and move the island will land once to the 70s(for storyline purposes), once to the 1800s(maybe not until the end), and to 2007…of the FSW, where Aaron, or someone will be brought or go to at some point in his childhood so that he can grow up on the island to be the boy we see running around bothering MIB. This boy appears to be hindering him, but I believe, like many things on Lost, it could be trickery, and he is POSSIBLY trying to help.

I still think that no matter who he ends up being, the rest of this could come true. So if all this goes down…and dying on the island make you connect with your FSW self, wouldnt this kind of make MIB the good guy of the story?
In the process making me really drop my guard on him for the first time…and really letting go of my faith in Jacob for the first time.

I know, after last episode…how? But if dying is the way to being reincarnated, and dying for a cause, or a sacrifice helps you be granted a better life, then MIB was trying to help the Losties die to connect them to their true self,and what they would have been without the island…everything is good…the island is gone, the world becomes a better place…happy ending right?

But how is the island gone then? If you remember, here I leaned more towards the Losties actually preventing the island from being sunk rather than actually sinking it…so then how does the island end up on the bottom of the ocean?

I think this is where we will see Jack and John have their final “showdown”.
I believe that in the FSW, John will allow Jack to perform the surgery…and while he is under, on the island they will stand toe to toe, with John Locke trying to fight his way through MIB on the island.

The Man in Black will try and tell Jack that he is on his side, that he is not trying to hurt him, but help him as he said before.
I think that we may see Christian, one way or another through Jacob, telling Jack that his work is almost done, and that he can go soon. The Man in Black tries to tell Jack that it needs to be his choice when he “goes”, and that he needs to not allow Jacob to control him.
I believe at this point the dagger from “Ab Aterno” will come back into play.

I think either Jacob or MIB will possibly kill kate…I think it will be MIB, and I think it will enrage jack to a degree…until he does truly understand…

I think that Jacob/Christian will give Jack the knife wanting him to kill the MIB/John. MIB/John will again try and tell Jack that this is wrong, and that he needs to choose his own destiny. Jack will take the dagger from Jacob/Christian.

Off island, in the FSW, Jack will be operating on John…and I believe we will begin to see Jack Shephard make some critical mistake that puts Johns life in danger, causing beeping and flatlines…

On island, Jack will stand facing John, with his father behind him…

Off island Jack will begin to hear his father speak to him…

On island Jack will ask Locke about his father, about why he said he was him when they talked…and Locke will reply because I am your father…as he hands him a pair of black dress shoes out of HIS bag. (yeah…I know)

Off island Jack will struggle and fight as other doctors in the room stand back and watch him with pity as he fights for a life that cannot be saved, just as many have done to him before…

On island, Jack will realize what is happening, and realize that Jacob is not his father, that he did lie to them, and that he did deceive them. He approached them long ago, and touched them making sure that this world…this island exists now…and that the man in the hospital was not his father, but Jacob playing the part…or at least Jacks mind allowing it to.
Upon this realization, he will turn and stab Jacob…or what looks like his father, killing him for good.

He will turn to John…to MIB…to possibly his real father for guidance. He will ask John/MIB what to do next…in which MIB/John will reply…”Go home”

They will go to the place where it began and will end, the source of the energy, the frozen donkey wheel, the heart of the island…and John will pull out one more thing from his bag…explosives, to be a little more poetic, the last of the dynamite from blackrock.

Off island, John Locke begins to have a pulse again…and Jack begins to feel relieved, and does not hear his father anymore.

On island, upon understanding what is going on, Jack tells John that he can go home now…that this is his place, and he decided to do this on his own, his choice…he can walk his own path now.
He is the hero, he is the leader, he is the great man…

John reaches into his bag and pulls out one last thing, a knife…and thrusts it through Jacks midsection…Jack falls to the ground…

Off island, Jack works hard on John again…

As Jack lay on the ground John leans over him. Jack begins to cry,and asks John “Why?”…telling him that its not supposed to be this way…I saved you John…Yes you did Jack…yes you did…

Jack “flashes” back into the FSW, and John flatlines again, and Jack realizes what had just happened. He breaks down crying, realizing that he has LOST John for good…and that it was all over.

On island, John Locke takes the long elevator ride, or well trip (depending on the timeperiod) to the FDW…carrying the dynamite in hand/sack. The young boy appears to him, telling him that its not over…that he cant kill him…that he cant do this…John Locke looks the child dead in the eyes, and says sternly…”Dont tell me what i cant do”…and blows up, sinking the island and whats left of Jacob in the process…

Off island, the other doctors begin leaving the room, and Jack stands staring and crying in front of the dead body of John Locke…just then Lockes vitals jump, and he begins again to have a heartbeat…

After recovery…
They have a short conversation about what may or may not have happened, incinuating very much to us that they do indeed remember, but leaving the full decision up to us regarding whether they remember, or whether jack did indeed fix him.

Jack walks out of the room and bumps into a woman with Freckles in the hallway. He knows her, but he doesnt believe she knows him. He begins to play a cat and mouse game before it is revealed that Kate remembers him…and they decide to go and have coffee together…

Now…with that in mind…I would just like to conclude this by saying that I would not be least bit surprised to see at some point the Losties flash back to the island circa 2004, around the time of the crash. If this happened, and they did go back and have a chance to do things differently, we could learn that they are responsible for sinking the island, and stopping the loop or circle from continuing…maybe by NOT pushing the button or turning the key…
I think it would be a heros good bye if it was Desmond Hume who “conscious flashed”, performing what Widmore referred to as “making a sacrifice” before throwing him in the Ecectromagnetic box…
Upon doing so, he would flash back to the FSW, and be reunited with Penny, and get the years back he LOST on island, and most likely making another little Charlie…

Them going back to the pilot is something I always believed possible, its just with the time and direction, it doesnt seem like its where we are headed at this point…but I have to keep the option open, and be prepared for anything…and I strongly recommend everyone else does too.

And if we dont go back and find out anything about Amy, or the purge, or the swan, than maybe you or Amy shouldnt believe me…maybe…

But Ill tell you one thing…this has been a hell of a fun time, and I thank everyone who has ever gone through the trouble of attempting to decode one of my many theories.
Ive had a blast doing this, and in less than two weeks…yes LESS than two weeks…it will all be over.

Although I will still comment, and might throw in a fun or general post here and there, I write this last theory, in all honestly to try and be a little fair.
At this point, we are all more or less adapting our own theories in light of what is happening on the show. Its delete and insert now, and I would like to try and keep as much as my original thought as possible, right or wrong, but it does become quite difficult when writing a theory after “The Candidate”.

I hope in this last theory, along with the others I have written something pans out and turn up true…but in all honesty…anyone getting anything right would be a bit of a letdown, and I really believe that it will be something that like the rest of the show, takes us all by surprise.
What I really hope is that if nothing else, you have enjoyed what I have given over the last few years, that is why I do this you know…

This has been a great show, a great season, and a great site, and most of all…great people…and I truly mean that.
Again, thanks for taking the time to read this and any of my other theories…I cant express how much I appreciate any nice words that anyone has ever said about me here. This is something special that I really dont believe that any of us will see again in our lives from a television show, or possibly anything else…

So to conclude, I wish you DO believe me…and at the same time…I wish I am way off…and Im sure at least the second wish will come true…

This has been the greatest game I have ever played, thank you all very much for playing along with me…

-A.E.S.

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