Eli and MIB

After watching last week’s episode a thought came to me that Eli was also working with MIB. In the original timeline we know that Faraday is shot by her, this must have been devastating to Eli to know that she had killed her own son. What if MIB made the same deal with Eli similar to the deals he made with the other losties in which he would give Eli her son back. If this was the case, than perhaps Eli is really the master mind behind the plan that allowed MIB to find the loophole. Everything off the Island that Eli has been doing and influencing has led to where we are today. I won’t bother typing all the examples, but when you think about it, it would seem to be way too much of a coincidence to be any other explanation.

LOST’s Loophole

Talk of how the show is going to end has got me thinking about the “loophole”. We’ve been somewhat led to believe that Smokey convincing Locke to turn the wheel allowing him to take the form of Locke to be able to convince Ben to kill Jacob is the loophole. Although this is most likely part of the grand scheme of the “loophole”, I believe the real loophole derives from the Candidacy.

Not sure if anyone has posted this, but my guess is that the “loophole”, which is tied to the game, is for Smokey to take the form of a Candidate and as such to be the last man/woman standing. His goal would be to kill off all of the other Candidates which would make him the final Candidate. Once he becomes the “ONE”, he can then choose to end the game forever. Obviously the trick is in the killing of the other Candidates, which we know based on the rules, he can not do directly.

Now this is going to likely be part of the main plot of how the show ends. That would be another theory.

The journey of the Island

It has taken some time for me to come to this conclusion on what the Island is, but based on what we have seen this season, it has become more and more obvious. Many have said that he Island was Purgatory, Atlantis, etc. which are all very possible.

However, I believe without a doubt that the Island is ship. Not how we think of a ship in the traditional sense but it is a ship non the less. It has a wheel used for steering, it has an energy source used for power, it has some sort of cloaking system to keep it protected.

Why can we unequivocally call it a ship now? Episode 1 of season 6, we seen the Island submerged. This was a big clue – as they are telling us this ship has sunk just like we would see a typical ship sink. The Island ship is a special ship obviously, it possibly can navigate from dimension to dimension, from one time period to another, etc.

Where did it come from? Why does it exist? Who created/owns it? are all major questions that I believe will be answered this season.

I don’t really call this a complete theory, but it can be the start of one. Please add your thoughts.

The journey of the Island

It has taken some time for me to come to this conclusion on what the Island is, but based on what we have seen this season, it has become more and more obvious. Many have said that he Island was Purgatory, Atlantis, etc. which are all very possible.

However, I believe without a doubt that the Island is ship. Not how we think of a ship in the traditional sense but it is a ship non the less. It has a wheel used for steering, it has an energy source used for power, it has some sort of cloaking system to keep it protected.

Why can we unequivocally call it a ship now? Episode 1 of season 6, we seen the Island submerged. This was a big clue – as they are telling us this ship has sunk just like we would see a typical ship sink. The Island ship is a special ship obviously, it possibly can navigate from dimension to dimension, from one time period to another, etc.

Where did it come from? Why does it exist? Who created/owns it? are all major questions that I believe will be answered this season.

I don’t really call this a complete theory, but it can be the start of one. Please add your thoughts.

Kingdom of LOST

This theory is a bit of fun inspired by Passover/Easter weekend

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah…

Theory:

I suggest we are seeing a new prophesy being fulfilled on LOST with the emergence of a resurrected John Locke on the Island. He in a sense represents a messianic figure that will usher in the new covenant.

This new era will bring about a clash of faith between two conflicting interpretations of the new covenant, those that believe that the new covenant is no more than the renewed commitment to follow the Island’s wishes and for the faith to remain within the chosen people. This group consists of some of people known as the others who believe they are the chosen ones. On the opposite side there are those from within the others that believe in a new relationship between man and the Island that will need to be brought about to change the immanent apocalyptic end of times. For these believers, the whole world must be one with the Island.

The same battle was debated during early Christianity among Jews. Conflicting interpretations of the messianic prophecy suggested some believed the new covenant was to be applied to those who thought the new relationship with God was for the Jews only and on the other side those who believed the new relationship with God would include all people (Gentiles).

This battle has pitted Ben, who believes in protecting the Islands faith based system from the outside world, and Widmore who through John Locke wishes to share the Islands faith system and miracles with the entire world so as to save the world as we know it. John Locke is the chosen one in the eyes of Widmore. With Ben; John does not hold this favor. Time and time again, Ben has attempted to side step Ben and Jacob’s wishes. I believe he has done so in order to protect the old order and the Island’s followers.

Ben will do everything in his power to protect the Island and its faith based system and wishes to hide the Island from the rest of the world. Widmore is trying to find the Island and from there, reveal the truth and the Island to the whole world as was written in the temple prophesies. It would appear that Richard is on board and Jacob as well as both believe John to lead them.

The lines have been drawn and the battle is immanent. Who will prevail, only time will tell.

Dharma’s plan to control man’s purpose

to every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven (Ecclesiastes Chapter 3). dharma however attempted to play god and control this purpose.

the 815 crash was not suppose to happen. it happened because the past was changed. what changed? everything, from the purge and the hostile takeover to the crash of 815. dharma, who had mastered the art of time travel via the use of the islands vast electromagnetic properties brought this upon themselves. only fools are enslaved by time and space?

how? dharma’s raison d’être was to study and determine how the past could be changed to sculpt the future as they seen fit to ultimately bring about an utopian society to the world and to thwart the predictions about the end of time. to change the core values of the valenzetti equation.

this power turned out to be to much in the hands of dharma – as sawyer put it to jack, you act and don’t think. we have seen this with dharma as well when they voted to kill off sayid even though they had no proof he was a hostile, they are rash at making decisions out of fear.

what exactly did they do then? well, i suspect they used the ability to see the future to counter the hostiles and gain an upper hand. dharma made the ultimate decision to wipe out the hostiles completely in order to rule the island for good. ben came upon this knowledge as a dharma operative and provided the intel to richard and the hostiles. the hostiles decided to act and kill off all in dharma who were onside with the plan.

the net result was the purge and a massive change in the present timeline. subtle changes could be absorbed via course correction, but the mass execution of dharma by the hostiles was not written in the proper future.

so what now? in order to restore order to the universe (gods plan) and converge the diverging timelines, the losties must correct the actions that caused the changes that brought about the future that was not supposed to happen. in return they would be free from the island and in the future they would have either not flown on 815 or 815 would not have crashed.

how? they must first stop the purge from occurring. second, they must destroy the island or hide it for eternity to stop anyone from changing the future. as sayid said, i know why i am here now.

Jacob is …

I believe Jacob is a person, and not a manifestation of the Island or Smokey. I feel that Jacob will be finally revealed this season in the last episode. We kinda know that Jacob knows Horus, because Horus builds the cabin. Jacob probably is somehow related to Dharma. That’s all I got – accept I believe he is no one that we have seen yet. Hurley said they traveled together to set, so he must be coming up reallllllll soon.

Jack saves Ben, AGAIN

before everyone starts up on Ben being dead and a new time line starts, let me be the first to say that young Ben does not die and most likely Jack saves him – this is my theory, but could end up being a spoiler. Nothing has CHANGED 🙂

dharma, the button and the time machine

after a brief discussion with a fellow losty yesterday over the show around the button, dharma and the “time machine”, i had to shore up some of my thoughts around the time machine and the 108 minute loop. i’m still not sure who hooked the button (computer) into a time machine to reset the loop, i don’t believe it was dharma’s original intention as it could have been a simple social experiment, but at some point the button was used to reset the island back 108 minutes into a continual loop. than why would such an important task be left to human error? wouldn’t it make sense to just let the computer do the talking?

there was one possible reasons which is part of the timelooptheory posted on the net. sending the computer back in time would mean that the computer code would not exist in the past (from the timelooptheory).

this obviously makes no sense as you could code the computer 109 minutes before you start the loop and have the loop reset every 108 minutes, so the code would be written before the reset.

i believe i have figured out a possible reason and it’s based on what they call a scheduled job (cron job) in the computer world. if you wanted to rely on a computer to fire off an event automatically you would need to set it up as a scheduled job. well, then why didn’t they just do that?

through some research, i discovered that early versions of DOS did not contain this functionality. so if it was a DOS based system, no chance in doing it. well, maybe it’s a unix bases system on a mainframe? i looked into when unix first demonstrated cron capabilities, and from wiki it mentioned with version Version 7 Unix which was released in 1979 and for mass use in 1980.

we know the computers on the island were likely brought there prior to that date and were used in the building of the swan. so there you have, not a great theory, but a way of explaining why humans had to push the button 🙂

for anyone that wants to read up on cron – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron

How to fertilize a time loop

This is a theory I’m putting together behind the pregnancy issue with mathematical evidence as proof to explain certain aspects of the theory – with all your help we can fill in the gaps and close this out for all eternity. This theory revolves around a particular space/time concept know as the time loop. I will not get into this in detail because it should make sense just by describing it.

The pregnancy issue as described from Lostpedia –

– There appears to be some evidence that women on the Island suffer from a form of degeneration of their reproductive organs

Time period where there was no issue:
– At one point in time babies conceived on the Island were able to be born on the Island with out risk to mother and child (Amy)

Time period when there was a pregnancy issue:
– Babies conceived off the Island can be delivered successfully on the Island (Claire)
– Babies conceived on the Island can be delivered off the Island – (Sun)
– Babies conceived on Island can not be delivered successfully on the Island resulting in mother and babies death (Sabine)

The idea of the theory goes back to an episode called “Not in Portland” where Richard visits Juliet to convince her to join their team to continue her studies. A brief description of their encounter from Lostpedia is below:

“Juliet attends her meeting with Richard Alpert from Mittelos Bioscience, who is presenting a slide show about their facilities in Portland, Oregon, in the hope of recruiting her as a head of department. His pitch of independent funding and research freedom intrigues Juliet, who asks why they are interested in her. Alpert talks about Juliet’s research, specifically the fact that she managed to impregnate a male field mouse; he is clearly impressed with her work. He asks her to examine a slide of a womb CT sequence. Juliet assesses that it is a human womb, and judging by the scan, most likely of a barren patient in her 70s. However, she is told that the woman is in fact just 26 years old, and that she could find out more if she worked with them. .”

Theory

The pregnancy issue is a result of an artificial time loop that has been ongoing (until Desmond turned the fail safe key) on the Island for a number of years and started sometime by Dharma after the incident. The time loop gets reset every 108 minutes when a button is pushed in the Swan. After the purge, the time loop continued as the others and Ben were not aware of the Swan station and the fact that the button was being pushed by Desmond.

The womb of the woman shown to Juliet in the episode mentioned above is from a 26 year old, however, due to the time loop that gets reset every 108 minutes, the ladies womb would appear to be in her 70’s as Juliet mentions. How is this so? Why does it appear as a 70 year old womb? On the Island during the time loop, technically, everyone goes back in time every 108 minutes to the point where the loop started. Since the womb was fertilized during the time loop it is susceptible to aging at the same rate as if the loop did not exist. Complications would occur as the womb ages causing both mother and baby to die before full term is reached.

This will only affect babies that are conceived on the Island and born on the Island. If the baby was conceived off the Island, the womb is not constrained by the time loop aging issue and is allowed to age normally. If the baby is conceived on the Island and the mother can get off the Island before the womb ages to much, she will also be okay as the womb will stop aging at an accelerated rate and age normally.

The calculation below demonstrates why the womb appears to be older.

Variables used for the calculation
– A normal duration of a pregnancy – 38 weeks (after fertilization)
– Number of minutes before time loop resets – 108 (when the button gets pushed)

If we take the duration of pregnancy and calculate the total minutes we get –

38 weeks = 266 days = 6384 hours = 383040 minutes

However on the Island, during the time loop, we will need to multiply every minute by the 108 minute time loop reset which causes every minute to actually be 108 minutes in duration.

383040 * 108 => 41,368,320 total minutes

So in actuality the full pregnancy for a baby conceived on the Island during the loop would yield – 41,368,320 minutes = 689472 hours = 28728 days = 78.7 years

I know this is a huge leap, but I’ll post it anyway. Dissect away!!!

A compass points back to the future

Since there won’t be a new episode this week and since there has been a lot of discussion around space time theories on the forum lately, I’ve decided to post this in the “Theories” section of the site even though it’s more of an observation rather than a theory in the classical sense.

I’ve been looking for a true classic example of a paradox on Lost and believe I have found one. The paradox is not about a person, but about an object. The object in question is the infamous compass that was in Locke’s possession. The story goes – Some time between 1955 and 2004 during a flash Richard gives Locke a compass and tells him to give the compass back to him when they next meet (in the past). Locke flashes to the 50’s meets Richard and gives the compass to Richard. So if Richard gave John the compass in the future and John gives the compass to Richard in the past, what is the origin of the compass? This scenario presents itself as an example of an ontological paradox.

As defined in Wiki, this not only creates a loop, but a situation where these items have no discernible origin. Physical items are even more problematic than pieces of information, since they should ordinarily age and increase in entropy according to the Second law of thermodynamics. But if they age by any nonzero amount at each cycle, they cannot be the same item to be sent back in time, creating a contradiction unless it is a reproduced item such as a seed, spore, etc.

Anyway, it’s a small theory, but a prime and maybe only example of a provable paradox on the show so far. Thoughts????

The statue is Horus

At first I was thinking the statue is Anubis, but now I think it’s actually Horus. Horus is the sun god in Egyptian mythology. There is interesting comparisons around Horus and the relationship to Jesus. The one that stands out the most is the resurrection in 3 days – John Locke was resurrected in a sense in 72 hours as well. I may be reaching on this, but its just a theory.

Links to images of Horus and the image of the status from today’s episode, also a wiki link to Horus

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/re4.jpg

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/6/68/FourToedFull.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus

So, is it Horus or is it Anubis, or is it something else???

Ben knew they would be crashing?

This is not ground breaking stuff, however, it’s worth mentioning. Since we know that Saywer, Jack, Hurley, Kate, etc. are stuck in Dharma time, perhaps young Ben has seen them in the past (over the next few episodes) and knows that they crashed on the Island in the future. He either possibly hears this, or assumes this to be the case. This could be the reason he has a list of names (may not be complete because it doesn’t include Jin, etc.) that match the losties that end up in the past during Dharma time.

A theory to consider based on TIME

First lots of great posts and ideas from this site.

I have too possible theories on the show that are based on time theories.

This theory is based on some ideas from other posts around 1954, the bomb, can’t change the past etc. It’s possible that at some point in time the bomb actually goes off.