Hello everyone,

This is my first post here, so if I’m doing anything wrong please let me know…

I’ve been following the site for a long time now, reading all your wonderful (most) and “way-out” (some) theories, but enjoying them all nevertheless. This place is the best I have come across on the web for LOST fans who like to THINK after the black screen is displayed at the end of each episode. It’s where people let their minds be free and dwelve about the myriad of possibilities that might give this amazing show a little more meaning. I’m sure everyone who has contributed (however much or little) has at some point touched on one of the many “truths” behind LOST, and I hope I will too with some of the thoughts I plan to share with you in the days to come…

So let me say, before I jump into the “essence” of my first post, that I am extremely grateful to each and every person who has made this site possible (from the founder/admin, to the most active “posters”, to the least active “readers”) – you have made my following of LOST so much fuller!

And now, to the point. The title of the post is: “The Black Rock’s Arrival”. I know we are all very excited about the last episode, where we finally got some meaning to how The Black Rock and Richard arrived to the island. But has anybody else noticed the following?

1. The first time we see The Black Rock arriving (or what we have all assumed to be The Black Rock), it’s a sunny day at the beach for Jacob and MIB. Calm seas, open skies and all…

2. The second time we see The Black Rock arrive at the island (this time there is no doubt it actually is The Black Rock since we see Richard in it as a slave and we see it stranded n the jungle), it’s the storm from hell, night-time, and what anybody in their right mind would describe as “horrible weather”…

So…. Is it sunny skies or night time? Is it calm seas or tsunami waves? ……..?

Is it possible that the ship we saw on the finale of Season 5 was NOT The Black Rock? I’m not sure about the meaning of this if it were true, but it just might enphasise the point that Jacob has been bringing people to the island for a veeeeery long time, and that The Black Rock is not the only ship that ever got there…

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Ok so following last nights episode (which i think was greeeeat!) i have one simple question.

We see the Black Rock crashing into the statue and being brought inland by a kinda tsunami (thats finally answered)..

So when Jacob and the other guy were sitting on the beach, what ship were they looking at there? It cant be the BR due to the weather we have just seen.. So if Jacob brought them (the other ship) to the island, then doesnt that mean that ship is still there somewhere?

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I’ve been hearing that the next episode is Richard based (i dont do any pre-episode research so i dont know) so if this is true then I’m hoping we learn more about The Black Rock and how it got into the ‘middle’ of the island.

So, incase we do learn it next week, i’m curious as to what all your thoughts and theories are about it? 🙂

And because there have been a lot of questions and theories posted since the season premier, i thought id add a bit of light hearted fun to this site 🙂

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There’s been a lot of talk lately about a “Jacob and Esau” relationship between Jacob and Flocke. Since many of these cite extra-Biblical sources, I decided to look at a strictly Biblical view of Jacob and Esau, and how they relate to LOST.
The first thing to notice about Jacob and Esau is who their father was. Their father was Isaac, the son of Abraham, who was the father of the Israelites. Also notable is who Jacob was. Jacob, later named Israel, was a key character in Jewish history. He was Israel, and he wrestled with God. One of his dreams contained a stairway to Heaven. Jacob fathered the twelve tribes of Israel, as well. Jacob’s name meant “deciever” and “heel-grabber.” However, the Bible later points out that Jacob was a righteous man, such as with the statement “Jacob I loved and Esau I hated.”
Esau was very different from Jacob. He was the firstborn, but was generally less intelligent and good-natured. After all, he sold his birthright for a pot of stew. Later, after Jacob got the blessing of the firstborn, he wanted to kill him (sound familiar?). Jacob escaped, and Esau continued on his life. Later, he met Jacob again and accepted him, although his heart is unknown, considering the intelligent Jacob snuck away. He eventually became the father of the Edomites, who were rejected.
So, what may be of significance from this? Well, this all fuels my elaborate theory. It begins in the distant past, millenia ago. The Island starts out as the Garden of Eden. After the Fall of Man, it is cut off from people. Later, during the Flood, it detaches from the mainland and becomes the Island. Since it was no longer accessible, it no longer needed to be guarded by an angel, so the Island is left on its own. Much later, seemingly by chance, early seafaring men find the Island. Once there, they plunder its food and destroy the Tree of Life (the roots of which release their moisture into the healing spring). This upsets the perfection of the Garden of Eden, causing the evil side of the scale to come into existence. However, as the men continue to corrupt the Island, it needs protection. To save the scale, an angel of death is sent as a pillar of black smoke. It kills the men, but also decided that the Island needs new measures of protection. In suplication of this need, a man and women, endowed with supernatural traits, are created, and the Island gains its ability to move. This man is Christian (currently named Isaac), and the women, well, her name is irrevelant, but we’ll call her Rebekah.
Isaac and Rebekah live on the Island for a very long time, protecting it with Isaac’s powers. Specifically, he can heal and prod conscience (to increase good) and become the Smoke Monster or take a dead form (to decrease evil). Over time, he decides that all natural man is evil and corrupts. Finally, his extremely long life-span begins to approach its end. At this time he has two sons, Jacob and Flocke (Esau for these purposes).
Jacob and Esau are to be Isaac’s successors. Esau was born first, and was entitled to the powers of his choosing, as well as the title of protector of the Island. Jacob would live as his assistant, and together they would use their powers to protect the Island. However, this balance was upset. Jacob and his mother (Rebekah) eventually realized that the balance was split by the birth of twins, making Jacob good and Esau evil (although they were both somewhat manipulative).
In order to protect the Island, they plotted to make Jacob the protector. To start, Jacob manipulated Esau into trading his birthright (the first choice of powers) for a bowl of stew. This was something, but they ultimately needed to prevent Esau from being in charge. To do this, Rebekah disguised Jacob as Esau and sent him to get the blessing of the firstborn (the title as protector of the Island). This works, and Jacob picks the powers of healing and righteous thought, and becomes the main protector.
(Bear in mind, as in the Bible, that Jacob was Rebekah’s favorite, and Esau was Isaac’s.) So, after Jacob tricks his father, Esau and Isaac become furious. Because they exist to protect the Island, neither can kill Jacob. Esau begs for some blessing, and Isaac promises to help him overthrow Jacob. The only powers left are transformation to the Smoke Monster and form-taking, which are both given to Esau. Soon afterwards, Isaac dies of old age. Esau, fearing the promise is impossible, tries to kill himself, but finds it impossible. His new goal: kill Jacob and leave the Island behind him.
By this time, we have reached the era of the Black Rock. Having heard their father’s stories and seen some incidents of his own, Esau believes that all men corrupt. Jacob, somewhat influenced by his softer mother, has hope for a good humanity. Thus Jacob decides to bring the Black Rock to the Island using his thought powers. This leads to the beach scene we saw. After the arrival of the Black Rock, Esau is injured. His body is broken, causing him to require other forms for existance. Using his powers, he takes the form of one of the sailors. Eventually, this form dies, and he continues as Smokie.
Fast-forward to Christian. Isaac has possessed Christian’s father, and reincarnated himself as Christian. From there, he made sure to die in Sydney, so that he would be taken back on Oceanic 815. On crashing, he began his plan. He quickly met with Esau, and began manipulating, eventually allowing Locke to be taken over by Esau. With this, he began working to kill Jacob. He helped Esau manipulate Ben, and eventually Jacob is killed. Unbeknownst to either of them, Jacob’s had a protection plan in place for a long time, all since Isaac’s death. Upon finding the Oceanic survivors in 1977, he realized it was time. In 2007, his ghost begins working to keep someone on the Island to protect it and stop Esau from, well, being evil. Since Jack is Christian’s son, he is in the line of the protectors, and stands to take Jacob’s place.
So, what will happen next? No clue. But I figure this is an awesome enough theory to consider.

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Hi there. Since the beginning of this last season of LOST I have, like many others I think, been wondering how the last few minutes of our favorite show will end. Just like the closing scene of each season we’ve seen before, I think the last scene of LOST will be memorable, like Jack and Locke staring down the hatch, or Jack yelling after Kate that they have to go back to the island. The last scene will most likely leave us with our mouths open from surprise and a knot in our stomach knowing that we will never sit down to watch a new episode of LOST again. So in anticipation of the last scene of LOST, I thought it would be fun to post my prediction of the final scene and I hope you too will leave your predictions in the comments.

Based on last nights episode “The Substitute,” my prediction for the final scene of LOST is that the candidate who finally becomes the new Jacob (probably Jack) will be standing in Jacob’s cave writing a whole new group of names on the ceiling to bring a new group to the island. This would leave the viewers mystified, and yet satisfied knowing that the story of the island will continue on even if we never get to see it.

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I just wanted to say my two ideas on Flocke’s comment to Richard. Flocke tells Richard “it’s nice to see you out of those chains.” This could be interpreted literally as to mean that Richard was physically chained up at one point, like as a slave on the Black Rock. However I think that would be too obvious of a reveal for this show. I think it should be looked at more metaphorically as what Jacob was to Richard. Maybe Richard was indebted to Jacob for something in the past (like not aging) and for this he had to serve as the mediator between him and the island’s leader. Now that Jacob is dead, these imaginary chains that had bound Richard to Jacob have been broken.

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Written 3rd February

I just wanted to post my two ideas on Flocke’s comment to Richard quickly. It could be that Richard was literally chained up the last time MIB/smokie saw him, like on the Black Rock. However I think that is too obvious of a reveal for this show. I think it was more of a metaphor for what Jacob was to Richard. Maybe Richard was indebted to Jacob for something (like not aging) and for this he has to serve Jacob as the mediator between him and the island’s leader. Now that Jacob is dead, these imaginary chains that held Richard are broken.

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Well for a start I’d like to say this will either be like…Aah! I has potential or it will be a load of rubbish.

I’ll get straight to the point:

Charlie Hume comes to the island along with Penny and Desmond for a reason that will be explained, Penny and Desmond go through a time window and end up around 1930-1945. The Others kill them but spare Charlie, they give him a name, Charles Widmore. Why Widmore you say? Well maybe they find a Widmore reference on the Island in 19?? or perhaps on Penny. And Charles well…maybe Penny shouts Charles/Charlie before she gets shot or something.

We have seen the stones in the caves in Flashes Before Your Eyes on the table haven’t we? So Penny and Des could possibly be the skeletons, but WHY would they have the stones? This makes Penny’s Son her Father too, which I read a theory on the fun section? I think. And also I have commented this in less detail?

See what you can do guys and correct me if I’m wrong there are a lot of holes in this mad chaotic theory but I hope I can open your eyes to something and begin to unravel the lost mystery! Good Luck!

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There are a lot of rumors, that, if you know the end, the answer is given in Ep. 1.

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I’m mainly trying to address the situation of Jacob and the Man in Black

First of all I see a lot of theories based on who is good and bad. I think this approach is a mistake. The themes of lost have always been made in a way to make people sometimes look good, and then you discover they are, or were bad, or vice-versa. I think the point of all of that is to show that there is no good or bad, only people in situations with different views, desires, and belief systems. Now, of course there is absolute evil and absolute good in some actions, however we have not seen enough of either of these men to know if either of them is totally consumed by either good or evil. I think the white/black shirts were meant as a stron symbol, and I immediately thought back to the first season when they found the two skeletons and the pouch with a white and black stone, and also locke’s speech about white and black when he was playing backgammon. I think it all ties together somewhat.

From the argument between the men, I feel that they are two opposed sides with strongly differing viewpoints. Clearly Jacob wants people on the island, he believes that there is good in people and for some reason feels that they should be on the island. The other man clearly does not want anyone on the island, and seems to not even want Jacob on the island(thus wanting to kill him). I know you’re saying “duh”: we know this already, but this just goes back to my previous point:

Neither of these views seem to be correct competely, nor do they seem totally incorrect. There are good people, yet humans clearly seem to have a history of death and destruction, which the man in black(though many seem to think represents death and destruction), seems to hate and want to keep away from him/the island. At the same time Jacob’s desire does not seem to be the destruction or death of anyone/anything, he just wants progress.

Now, under those assumptions, which I think are well based, neither is really “bad” or “good”, they just have different ideas on what should be done, and one resents the other for it. At the same time, they are bound by some unknown rules which seem to keep them from directly harming or stoping one another.

What is Jacob? I’m not sure. He would appear to be the leader of the group of hostiles/others, who he seems to “hand pick”(lists), good from bad, supposedly. Richard serves Jacob, but seems to be limited in his scope. He couldn’t tell that locke was an impostor, or that (aparently), the Man in Black had been using Jacob’s shed for his own plans. However I do think the lists came from Jacob, as richard got them from Jacob, and Richard seems to know that Jacob is located “in the shadow of the statue”.

So we have Jacob drawing the one group onto the Island, leading them from afar, selected the good ones, and then you

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