Hey did anyone ever suggest that Jack would be the new smoke monster? Cus it makes sense in a lot of ways.

– MIB was more trustworthy of science as Jack was, where the new leader of the island Hurley is probably more of a faith guy, like Jacob.

– he woke up in the same place, or at least in the same body position, as MIB after entering the light cave thingy.

– in purgatory Kate said she waited for Jack so long, like at the time I took it as she just had to wait her whole life until she died, but maybe she had to wait til however long Jack’s spirit as the smoke monster got off the island as well. It explains why removing the cork made MIB mortal, so he was able to die and pass on. The same has to happen for Jack to pass on perhaps?

– it be pretty cool.

Thinking about this even more, perhaps anybody who enters the light who is not “permitted” like say Desmond was, turns into the smoke monster. But I dont think turning into the smoke monster necessarily means that person is going to be evil or have a grudge against the protector of the island. That gives more reason to why the writers would characterize MIB so much, he had a single, human motivation. Perhaps it wasn’t his destiny or assignment to be against Jacob, he just chose to be.

So maybe while Hurley and Ben were running things, they talked to a very nice and accommodating Smokie Jack and they just had to find Desmond again so they could let Jack pass on. But knowing Jack, perhaps he pushed that off for awhile, and lent Hurley and Ben a hand on the island. I mean, we know smokie can move a lot of shit, plus Jack would be a good leader while Hurley and Ben were off island.

The writers said the show was about the characters, and it was, and all the shit that the Losties went through were result of Jacob’s and MIB’s character. MIB was pissed (who wouldn’t be, his life wasn’t that great, psycho mom and all) so a lot of shit happened. And perhaps Jacob could have easily went over seas and just gave a few people a job application to take over the island, but he and his brother liked to play games, so they did.  they both got a God complex or something. And you know what? Thank goodness cus there wouldn’t have been much of a show if the two of them just hugged it out and got along.

Oh and another thing…

…like the mysterious Mom of Jacob and MIB, she was probably both the protector and the smoke monster. Like why not be both? But then if the same procedure had to happen with the cork being removed to make smokie mortal, how she was killed so easily? My answer, it’s fricken LOST and there was probably a loophole or exception that really doesn’t have much logic behind it, but you just have to go with it.

Like maybe because she was both smokie and the light protector allowed her death to be easier, or honestly the fact she didn’t get first word in, or maybe just because the rules don’t apply to her as much. It’s LOST, if the show ever had a straight set of definitive rules the show would have been called FOUND.

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From the very first season we are introduced to “special” people. The other’s kidnap Walt because they believe that he is special. John Locke believes that he himself is special. Jacob’s “mother” tells him that he is special. So what exactly does it mean to be “special”.

I believe that being “special” means that you are a likely candidate to be Jacob’s successor. People that are on Jacob’s list are considered special for this reason. Perhaps, special people also have some sort of supernatural powers. We are told (in S2 or 3) that “Jack wasn’t even on Jacob’s list”. I believe that Jacob never wanted Jack to be his successor. He just wanted Jack to believe that he was special so that he would replace the cork in the Source (therefore saving the world) and then pass on protectorship to Hurley (who truly is special).

But I would love to hear your ideas!… What exactly made Walt so “special”? Was Locke actually special, or was he just conned into thinking he was special by the Man in Black? Who else was special? Were all the candidate’s special?

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I’ve been trying to piece together some stuff from the show, and figure out just exactly why the light in the cave was of such importance. I don’t know if this has been brought up already or not, so if it has i apologise. I’m not even sure if this is obvious or a really stupid idea, but after that finale, we don’t have too much to go on.

I think the reason that light in the cave was so important was because it was what kept the afterlife in existence. Maybe when it was stated several times that if MIB got his way ‘everyone you love would be gone’, it didn’t mean they would physically die. As we heard Christian say, some people died before Jack, some long after, but they were all there. In this afterlife there is no now, so it could mean you’re able to spend eternity with everyone you ever loved, even people that aren’t dead yet, everyone you want to be with is there, thats a beautiful concept.

this makes me think of some of the promises that Jacob made to people, such as telling Dogen he could be with his son again, i guess he wasn’t lying. Now think if that light is what i think it is, and by it being put out this afterlife ceases to exist, everyone you love will be gone. Those are pretty high stakes, and to me adds deeper meaning to the light, why it needs to be protected and why they showed us the afterlife scenario. Thinking this way, i actually feel a bit happier about the way it ended, and the final ten minutes don’t seem so random. I know this is a little outlandish, but there really isn’t any logical way to explain the importance of a light in a cave.

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OK, here is one of my last theories for Lost. It’s bittersweet that it’s going to end. One of the best things about this series was thinking about theories for all the mysteries. I will miss that as well as the characters we all know and love.

Now, to my theory. I think that Aaron is special because he is the first baby born in the island in many years. Jacob could have taken him as his replacement, killing Claire in the process, just like mom did two thousand years ago. Instead Jacob decided to eliminate him from the list of candidates, so he can have a normal and happy life and is not condemned like Jacob was. Instead Jacob selects other candidates. Flawed and lost people that didn’t have much too miss from their lives.

So Aaron was the most likely candidate, as he was born in island and that’s why he’s special. Jacob felt sorry for Aaron as he reminded him of his own life. Also, MIB seems to feel empathy for Aaron as both had a crazy mom.

That’s all the mystery about Aaron. He is not from the future or stuff like that. A bit underwhelming? Probably. We all made so many complex theories and in the end almost all of them ended up having pretty simple anwers. At least there are no aliens!

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I really enjoyed “What they died for” It wasn’t really an emotional episode,
but I really loved how how the FlashSideWays took off.

And even more the Island events.
Now, thanks to the ash(supposedly)everyone can see Jacob and talk to them,
where he answers some question.
Kate’s theefore asks him why he crossed her name off the cave wall,
to which Jacob simply replies –
Because you became a mother..It’s just a name on a wall Kate – the job is yours if you want it..
Now, even though I really enjoyed that answer at first – I then came to think…
Well, what about Jin and Sun – the Kwans..? Regardless which of them Jacob meant(or both)
they are both, and have been been for three years!
And now little Ji Yeon is an orphant without having ever met her Father..

My question is simple – Why weren’t their names crossed off?

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Written 14th May

Ok, so this is sort of a fusion of a few other ideas floating around…but here we go…

So, we are pretty sure now that Eve (Fake Mom) was also a crazy-ass black smoke monster, much like Flocke. She was able to manipulate everything from the very beginning in order to get MiB to kill her (she thanked him before she died). She was unable to kill herself, and thus had to have a candidate kill her. Another theory floating around was the idea that Flocke didn’t actually physically want to leave the island. He just wanted to die.

Ok, so what if the Black Smoke monster just wants to get back to the “light”? The “monster” keeps getting trapped in the body of a dead candidate. After Eve was killed by MiB, the monster finally went back…until Jacob killed MiB and sent his body into the light. Now the monster was back out, and it just wanted back in.

Now, here’s another thought. Smokie can only be killed by the current protector of the island. He knew that Jacob wouldn’t do it, and so he set out to kill Jacob (loophole, etc.). With Jacob dead, he needed the get a replacement for him, and get the new protector to set him free.

So, what if he was not trying to kill all of the candidates in the sub. He just needs one candidate to survive. Now, Smokie’s no fool. He knew that Sayid didn’t really kill Desmond, and that he is still trapped in the well. He just needs to get all the others out of the way, leaving a final candidate to replace Jacob, kill him, and finally be free.

Thoughts? Comments? Criticisms?

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Smoke Monster is trying to get back to the Source. He’s not really MiB. He was just using that form to communicate with Jacob and at some point got stuck in his present form the same way the current manifestation is stuck in Locke’s body. Similarly, as MiB was to inherit the Island but turned away and left Jacob as the only option, Locke was to inherit the Island only to lose his way and leave Jack as the next option. Chances are Jack will find his way to the Source by accident and Smokey will try and head back down there…or possibly find someone to take the plunge and replace him.

Side note: Since Jacob’s name is similar to Jack, I’m thinking MiB’s real name was something close to John, like Jonah or something. Just a thought…

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For the record. I thought last nights epsidoe was pretty good. Seems like a lot of people really weren’t into it. I think it gave us one last round of theorizing before the end begins. I also think it really put into perspective the vast majority of the show. Anyways, onto the theory.

I believe it was shown that MIB knew how to build the wheel because his dead mother was showing him how. “Im Special” means “I see dead people”. Which I think brings up some very interesting ideas.

The light under the island (I believe it to be a meteor). Is related to life/death and was refered to as “the source”. We saw the fake Mother last night transfer the duties to Jacob. This happened with the bottle of wine. I’m thinking that something happened here under the hood. Jacob was actually changed there. Just like MIB was changed when he came in contact with the light. I think whatever Jacob drank was partially the water with the light. He was made immortal in some way, and most importantly got knowledge. I could be looking too much into this. If you watch his face when he drinks it. It looked to me like he had a moment of revelation. A flood of knowledge came to him. Then the fake Mother says “We are the same now”. I kinda took that as meaning they now shared the same knowledge.

This also seems to mirror what Smokie can do. Smokie seems to me like he embodies the dead. Like he is the wealth of all the dead knowledge. He knew John Lockes thoughts when Ben was stranglin him.

My point here is that they are both part of that light. Jacob drank the wine and got his gifts from the light. MIB actually came in contact with it and became Smokie.

I love it!

All I want from Lost at this point is a glimpse of what the “light” actually is. Hopefully good ol Desmond will be the man. I just want some cool Indiana Jones sequence where they go deep under the island and we see some crazy ruin !@#$!

What is that damned light?

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Hopefully this will be the last question I’ll ever post!

Ok, so we know that Jacobs ‘mother’ passed the job of protecting the light on to Jacob.

However, after less than, what i can assume, 10 minutes, Jacob manages to make the light go out.. And out comes Smokie.

So what is Jacob meant to be protecting.. And what will his chosen candidate have to protect? I was under the impression it was the glowing light but clearly that was put out a long time ago..?

If it’s to keep Adam (yes im calling MIB that now) on the island then why? How will everything cease to exist if he gets off? Because to me, it just seemed as though he wanted to leave to see what else is out there..

So to sum up, HOW is Jacob protecting the island?

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So, now we have an idea of how the two brothers (Jacob and MIB) came to the island. Here are some issues I have after watching this episode:

1. The woman seems to not want people on the island, how do they crash there? I thought it was that Jacob brings people to the island, but clearly he didn’t have the ability to do that before he was born. And since the woman(the guardian of the island at that time) has no reason to want them on the island, how did they get there?

2. Jacob takes on responsibility for the island from his mom, but now he seems to want the opposite of what she did. He wants to prove MIB and his mom wrong, that people ARE good. And MIB is just bitter at this point and despises humanity. And since Jacob turned him into a total freakazoid, he needs to protect the world from him now by keeping him there. It seems odd that Jacob’s goals differ so greatly from his mom, although he took the responsibility to protect the island, he seems to have a different idea of how to do that.

Finally, I’m just sort of disappointed in general, I don’t feel like we have had much of anything explained more than we knew LAST season finalie and here we are at the end. I have a bad feeling that so much is going to be unexplained, or only vaguely explained, like what the island is, what this bright light is, etc.

Only time will tell I guess. Lost is still the best show on tv, even if the ending will leave me wanting more.

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Maybe the blonde boy is Jacob and he killed someone. Maybe they are brothers and Jacob killed their father and that’s why the boy had the hands full of blood and that’s why their mother got crazy.

Possibly Jacob feels regret for murdering and that why he decided to spend the rest of his life on the island. MIB lost someone he loved, in this case his father and feels anger and disappointment about all humanity for it. Jacob wants to repent for his acts and decided to show his brother that he can be good and that humanity is good too and he won’t let him go until he proves his point and his brother forgives him.

MIB is not evil, but he can’t stand his brother, that’s why he wanted to kill Jacob so badly and he is also desperate after being stuck for more than one thousand years in the island.

Jacob appears as a kid to MIB to disturb him. It is Jacob appearing as a ghost to make him give up on leaving the island until he shows that people can be good.

Jacob is not completely sane and is quite bipolar as can be noticed when he attacked Richard. He acted completely differently from his messianic behavior in other appearances. That’s why he likes to torment his brother with his appearances as a boy, reminding him of what he did. He also possibly made MIB lose his body and gave him the smoke appearance, but I don’t know how. Jacob created those rules and one of them is that MIB can’t reveal their true motives. That’s why MIB seems to be more sincere than Jacob, but he is unable to say why he does the things he does.

I’m not sure as this is exactly what happens, but I wouldn’t be surprised as something like that was true and neither Jacob nor MIB are completely good or evil. I get the feeling most of the time that MIB is a victim and he is so desperate to be free that he doesn’t mind killing or taking whatever action is needed to leave the island, his brother Jacob and his smoke form behind.

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I haven’t posted here for a while, as sadly this season of Lost hasn’t inspired much thought for me.
i feel bad for saying this, as it goes against all the praise i’ve heaped upon the creators and cast of this show over the past few years, but this season (and to a lesser extent the last one) has been pretty mediocre television.

I’d like to think i’m not the only one, and hopefully this thread will be a place where anyone who does feel a little let down can express their opinion. I’ve always thought Lost was this brilliant show that had all these brilliant ingredients that made it so much better than anything else out there, but now when i watch it its actually pretty…well…dull.

The first say three seasons i’ve watched so many times, and every element of them was brilliant, the script, acting, music, little easter eggs here and there. I felt everytime i rewatched an episode, there was something i’d previously missed. This season and the last i haven’t even bothered watching repeats as its just not that involving anymore. Somethings missing.
Now, i’m not one of these people that just watches it to get answers (although its getting that way as there isn’t much else left), but the way they are going about answering the mysteries mostly through dialogue has seemed pretty lazy, alot of the time contrived and at worst laughable. ‘Oh yeah, by the way, the whispers are ghosts’ ‘Yeah Jack, i pretended to be your dead dad’. I loved all the characters, and the flashbacks were some of the fantastic elements of the show, getting to know all their back stories, i felt like i knew them all so well. This to me was one of the most important parts of the show, and the show was never the same once they ended. Now i don’t really get what their motivations are.

The emotion is missing, i remember watching past seasons, it never failed to strike up the feelings they were trying to get from the viewer, i’ll admit it, even shedding a tear now and then. Now whenever the sad violin music comes on and theres a little ’emotional’ scene, it just comes across as forced and cheesy. It often seems like the actors feel the same way, as they do their best to make some of the poorly written dialogue believable. I’ve waited for each episode this season with baited breath, expecting that lost magic to happen after the last ones shocking cliffhanger, only to sit through yet another uneventful hour until the last couple of minutes.

It feels to me that only true fans of Lost would watch this season, as i can’t see any reason why anyone else would. All the elements that previously made the show great, the characters, the drama, the mysteries, have been replaced by some pretty substandard television. I do feel that although some don’t like to admit it, alot of you feel the same. I am just hoping that this past three seasons of setup (since ‘the beginning of the end’) is leading up to the epic conclusion that the creators have made it out to be, but i will settle for a reasonably satisfying ending.

So, please share your thoughts, open up and share with the group. We’re listening.

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The key to the series was Season Five’s 16th episode, The Incident. This is how the show is going to end. Just like MIB can be numerous people (MIB, Locke, etc.) so can Jacob. So at the end of the series, I am unsure of how they will exactly get there, it is going to be new Jacob portrayed as Jack and new MIB portrayed as Locke. The two will be sitting on the beach just like in the episode, The Incident, and a new boat, plane, train or taxi filled with new people will be on their way to the island to start the process all over again.

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Written 15th April

So in the last episode the boy, who most people think is a young jacob, has clearly aged.  I was thinking that maybe Jacob is being reborn.  After he died, he was born again and began to age quickly.  Maybe this is why flocke is rushing to get off the island – because once jacob has reached his old self the smoke monster will not be able to leave.

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This special dagger that supposedly can kill the smoke monster and Jacob has a specific set of instructions that come with it. Something along the lines of “you have to kill him before he speaks to you.” Now, if you rewatch the scene where Sayid stabs MIB, he technically didn’t follow directions as the MIB says “Hello Sayid” before he stabs him. The second time we see the dagger, MIB gives it to Richard to kill Jacob, with the exact same directions. Once again the person with the dagger doesn’t follow the directions. Now, if we believe these instructions (that have been repeated twice), then it got me thinking, whoever has not spoken to MIB yet, can still kill him. So who hasn’t spoken to him? So far I have only come up with these people.

Jack, Hurley, Desmond, Ilana, and Frank (If you come up with anymore please let me know)

If the directions are correct, than I believe one of those people will end up killing MIB. One problem with my theory though is I’m not sure if speaking to the MIB counts if he is in someone else form, for example Christian Shephard. A question I had that I’m hoping someone could answer is when Ben killed Jacob, was the weapon he used the same dagger?

To go a little farther on my theory, there’s something I’d like to point out. We all know Frank was supposed to pilot 815 but he overslept that day. Now think back to season 1. Who is the first person who died on the island? (I’m not talking about the guy who got sucked into the planes engine, or the cop who came with Kate) The person I’m talking about is the pilot. That was supposed to be Frank who died, but instead, he wound up on the island alive. There would be no reason to keep a character like him around unless there’s something more to it. This leads me to believe that Frank has a greater purpose, something important to do…like kill the MIB with the dagger.

Now I know there is no way the writers would ever make it so Frank ends up killing the MIB, but I was just hoping to put some stuff out there, on some things I feel havn’t been discussed enough yet and see what comes back. This is my first post on this site just for the record, hope you enjoy.

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The Island itself is a referee. It is sentient in some way, and playing out a game.

It could also be possible it is a machine carrying out it’s programming, or a consciousness sealed inside the exotic material. It’s really too early to tell. The point I am making here is that the island is actually in control of everything. Jacob and MIB are cogs in the wheel. Not the real powers at all. I think it’s very likely that the island exists in superposition. It is a nexus for all realities. From the island one can see all potentials. This thought was solidified for me when we saw the lighthouse. Perhaps the lighthouse was looking at many realities? Not just one?

The Island has these “special” properties which have been referred to as “exotic material”, and “electromagnetic pockets of energy”. This energy/material could be many things. I’ve always thought it was from a meteor that crahes/crashed on the island then was found by man and manipulated. It could also be the island is from the future where technology has advanced far enough that even we the viewers perceive it as godly and supernatural. Then the island goes back in time and encounters several time periods. All the while collecting the many ruins/artifacts in praise as some god or heaven/hell. Who knows.

Regardless, somehow these properties are being manipulated by someone to try and avoid a cataclysmic event that has yet to happen in the show. Proof of this I believe is in Jacob’s line:

“It only ends once, everything leading up to that is just progress”

He obviously knows something is going to happen, and is working towards fixing it. Somehow fixing it involves proving to MIB that humans are worthy. This brings me to Jacob/MIB and their realtionship.

I do not think either is good or evil. I believe they are of opposing perspectives. Jacob has hope and faith. MIB is hopeless and faithless. The one key thing that people seem to have forgotten about MIB is that he has pretty clearly been shown as a judge/jury/executioner. I do not believe that everything MIB has done on the show is evil. If he is just evil incarnate why would be scanning peoples memories?

My guess is that he is just as important as Jacob on the Island. Jacobs role is to bring people to the island and show the judge that they are worth saving. MIB’s job is to judge and execute those that aren’t worthy. If however, MIB is fed up and no longer believes it is possible to save humanity. His leaving the island could mean he judges everyone at that instant, and executes them all.

Could this be the cataclysm Jacob is trying to prevent? It seems more and more likely to me.

Now, how would MIB destroy everyone? How was he once a man, yet now smoke and without a body? I don’t buy into this show being about gods or deities at all. If MIB came in contact with the island as man and we have no idea what the island is. Is it not possible that the island made him what he now is? Exotic material can probably do exotic things to a man!

It seems to me that MIB is linked to the energies under the island. He also travels under the island, rips trees down, and makes machine sounds. So could it not be that MIB was made into this form by the islands intelligence. To serve it as judge? Just as it makes Jacob serve it? I am thinking that MIB might create a paradox if he leaves. He is not actually going to fly around the world and destroy everything. He is literally not able to leave the island without destroying everything. I think when Whitmore says to Jin “Everyone will cease to exist” it kind of reveals this. He will cause the undoing of reality should he leave the island.

Perhaps being made the judge dislodges you from all realities and you exist in superposition like the island? So returning to a normal reality would rip everything apart. MIB doesn’t belong anywhere, but on the island.

One final thought I have to wedge in here is about what Eloise said to Desmond. She tells him that what he is doing is a “violation” in the LAX world. That sounds like she is talking about some unknown rules. We have heard of these rules time and time again. Where do they come from? Jacob must abide by them, as must MIB. So what does that leave? The Island!!!

I can’t shake this feeling that The Island is in control of everything. Almost like The Island is running a program to stop things from ending.

It’s freaking alive or something!

My buddy calls it the Ref. I like that name for now.

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I had been waffling over the is Christian the MIB in disguise or an agent of team Jacob, then it occured to me, he is neither. Maybe he is a representing a third entity’s presence. maybe Jacob and MIB have both been sort of corrupted and can only see things from their point of view ( you know that whole saying about every story having 3 sides?) and convinced that they are right but they have forgot the true meaning of this game they are playing. I am going to pissed if they dont answer this question. I think it is very important to essence of the story because the writers have been painstakingly misleading us about Christian and just by mere blood line he is very important, having three relatives on the island.
I think that 3 is a very important number, especially in religon. I think someone mentioned this awhile ago but I was to lazy to look, but anyway you know the whole the father, the son and the holy spirit, but really (depending in your brand of christianity) he is the same person just different forms to serve different purposes. I just dont hope it turns out to be like devil advocate, I read a really interesting theory the other day, and when it came out it was one of my fave movies at the time, but it never really dawned on me the stark similarities (or maybe I am just suffering from aphopenia) but I was disappointed in the way the movie ended (spoiler alert: the main character defeats the devil but the loop just starts all over again). My grandmother use to say that pride is the one sin you cant beat and that was pretty much a running theme throughout the movie. Jack has that problem, it manifests itself in his need to fix things. The need to prove himself to his father that he is better than him. Even the profession he choose, high stakes with someone’s life on the line, and you are the only thing between them and death. It is a fine line between pride and vanity, so while we think that maybe Jack has come over to being a man of faith, maybe all he saw was something that proved to him that he had what it takes.

I am just babbling because the site has been down for what felt like an eternity. So anyway, as usual, feel free to chime in.

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I just thought i’d throw it out there and see what people think. Probably not a fresh thought but…could ‘the package’ be Jacobs replacement in some way? I got the feeling from Desmonds odd appearance on the plane in the alt that there would be some reason why, but we haven’t seen him show up in the alt again, yet. It seemed very Jacob-esque, zen like, not forgetting that Desmond was once a monk.
What if even if its just in the alt, he has some sort of position like Jacob. I got nothing to back this up really, but i’m just trying to pre-empt the next episode, so i guess we’ll find out next week.

I’m also wondering, Widmore is obviously aware of Desmonds importance, but was Jacob?
Is Des a candidate i can’t remember his name being on that list, was Jacob even aware of his existence on the island? Even more importantly, was MIB/smokey aware of him? Maybe thats why he was kept secret in that hatch, until the day he was ‘accidentally’ endowed with Doctor Who type powers.
It would seem Widmore has thrown his own ‘variable’ into the equation.

Can’t wait for next week.

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The Devil betrayed me and stole my body, my humanity… explained MIB to a bewildered Richard Alpert about “the Devil” (that we know as Jacob).

We know that MIB is now appearing/using the identity and bodily form of John Locke, even though there is a dead body of John Locke buried on the island.

We know that MIB also takes the form of Smokey. We have seen Smokey make appearances as other people such as Alex and Yemi.

We know that the reason Ilana dragged around the coffin containing Locke’s dead body at first was because she wanted people to see who they were up against given that FLocke/MIB can no longer take on any other appearance. (It seems like we should get back to the meaning(s) of this statement before the show’s end. It feels kind of like a “rule” of sorts.)

I just can’t shake the idea that MIB was something like the first candidate, and he made some sort of deal with Jacob (maybe not necessarily the Jacob that we know) similar to the deal between Jacob and Richard. If that is the case, it would seem possible that somewhere along the line Jacob has done to MIB what MIB has done to John Locke.

If this was easy to figure out or explain, I don’t think I would bring it up, as usually only the writers can make anything make sense…usually. Since I can’t understand it and readily acknowledge that there are a couple of significant pieces missing (how/why/then what is Jacob?), it makes it that much more intriguing as an actual theory.

I’m sure we could look past this line as another manipulation, given that MIB’s instruction to Richard on how to kill the Devil were exactly the same as Dogen’s instructions to Sayid. Yet I think the writers added this line about how there is a “stolen body and humanity” situation in the middle of these other familiar statements (to us viewers) to be purposeful.

Ultimately we know that MIB has been the one using different forms and appearing as various people, but the fact that MIB revealed that his body was stolen and points it back to Jacob seems pretty important.

(Wish I could have posted this sooner after Ab Aeterno…oh well. It still seems relevant in the long run somehow.)

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Hello everyone,

Sorry if this has been brought up before but I have a quick (but most pressing) question. In the most recent episode about Richard, we see his dead wife Isabella come to Richard while he is still trapped in chains on the Black Rock. Isabella tells him they are both in hell and that the Devil is coming. While we see Isabella talking to Richard, we hear Smokey’s noises in the background indicating he is coming (the horn, cricket noises, whatever-you-call-them).

Now generally, I thought Smokey could look like anyone who is deceased. But I also thought that MiB can only take one form at a time. For example, we have never seen UnLocke and Smokey appear on screen simultaneously. We also didn’t see Alex or UnLocke appear simultaneously. We also did not see Christian and UnLocke appear simultaneously…you get my point! One form at a time!

So, if this is true and MiB can either show up as Smokey OR a dead person, then how do we hear Smokey coming when Richard is talking to Isabella on the Black Rock..???? That would have to mean either MiB can take two forms at once (which we haven’t seen before – correct me if I am wrong), Isabella is alive (but we saw her die at Richard’s home), OR someone else who is on the island can take the form of dead people besides MiB…

Now seeing as how we sort of saw Smokey devour Isabella, I want to say Smokey and Isabella were two different entities. Otherwise, it is rather theatrical if Smokey pretended to be Isabella and ate himself (I hope that makes sense…)

What do you guys think? Jacob said (how much can we trust what he says) that “That wasn’t your wife”…so that means it was probably MiB in Isabella’s form..but if it were, how is it possible that MiB was in both Smokey form and Isabella form at the SAME TIME???

Lastly, maybe the fact that Isabella’s spirit is on the island talking to Hurley means she REALLY died on the island…? Maybe Jacob brought her back from her disease-induced death in his magic pool in the temple and then that’s why we saw Smokey eating her on screen. But if that were the case, Jacob wouldn’t have seemed so surprised to see Richard or hear about his wife…and their general conversation doesn’t fit unless Jacob was “playing dumb”.

Discuss guys =)

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