Hey did anyone ever suggest that Jack would be the new smoke monster? Cus it makes sense in a lot of ways.

– MIB was more trustworthy of science as Jack was, where the new leader of the island Hurley is probably more of a faith guy, like Jacob.

– he woke up in the same place, or at least in the same body position, as MIB after entering the light cave thingy.

– in purgatory Kate said she waited for Jack so long, like at the time I took it as she just had to wait her whole life until she died, but maybe she had to wait til however long Jack’s spirit as the smoke monster got off the island as well. It explains why removing the cork made MIB mortal, so he was able to die and pass on. The same has to happen for Jack to pass on perhaps?

– it be pretty cool.

Thinking about this even more, perhaps anybody who enters the light who is not “permitted” like say Desmond was, turns into the smoke monster. But I dont think turning into the smoke monster necessarily means that person is going to be evil or have a grudge against the protector of the island. That gives more reason to why the writers would characterize MIB so much, he had a single, human motivation. Perhaps it wasn’t his destiny or assignment to be against Jacob, he just chose to be.

So maybe while Hurley and Ben were running things, they talked to a very nice and accommodating Smokie Jack and they just had to find Desmond again so they could let Jack pass on. But knowing Jack, perhaps he pushed that off for awhile, and lent Hurley and Ben a hand on the island. I mean, we know smokie can move a lot of shit, plus Jack would be a good leader while Hurley and Ben were off island.

The writers said the show was about the characters, and it was, and all the shit that the Losties went through were result of Jacob’s and MIB’s character. MIB was pissed (who wouldn’t be, his life wasn’t that great, psycho mom and all) so a lot of shit happened. And perhaps Jacob could have easily went over seas and just gave a few people a job application to take over the island, but he and his brother liked to play games, so they did.  they both got a God complex or something. And you know what? Thank goodness cus there wouldn’t have been much of a show if the two of them just hugged it out and got along.

Oh and another thing…

…like the mysterious Mom of Jacob and MIB, she was probably both the protector and the smoke monster. Like why not be both? But then if the same procedure had to happen with the cork being removed to make smokie mortal, how she was killed so easily? My answer, it’s fricken LOST and there was probably a loophole or exception that really doesn’t have much logic behind it, but you just have to go with it.

Like maybe because she was both smokie and the light protector allowed her death to be easier, or honestly the fact she didn’t get first word in, or maybe just because the rules don’t apply to her as much. It’s LOST, if the show ever had a straight set of definitive rules the show would have been called FOUND.

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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this before, but what if we are dealing with two seperate smoke monsters. Let me break it down for you:

– When the monster scans people and “judges” them, it makes a very distinct clicking noise.

– When it is killing someone, it makes heavy chain clanking noises, as well as the roar which we all are very familiar with.

– Since jacob was murdered we haven’t seen the scanning version of the smoke monster, only the killing one.

What if both jacob and MIB are smoke monsters, the only difference, is that it was jacobs job to judge, while MIB’s job was to kill whoever jacob didn’t need?

Since Jacob has been killed, we have only seen the MIB version of the smoke monster, could this be the reason?

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As usual, I apologize if anyone has already written this theory.  I’d actually be surprised if this wasn’t already suggested.  If so, hopefully what I say will be seen as supporting it, not competing with it.

I think John Locke died upon impact of the 815 crash and was taken over by the smoke monster.  This has some holes, but I’ve come up with some ideas to account for a lot of them.  One of the key concepts here is that when the smoke monster takes over a body, some of the personality, memories, etc. of the person live on, and over time the smoke monster becomes less himself, and more like the person whose body he used.  That’s why this season we saw Flocke say, “Don’t tell me what I can’t do”…because he’s already taking on some of the traits of Locke.  This is also why Locke seemed so confident in season 1 and by season 4 he was more like the John Locke that worked at the box company.

First, here are some reasons why it makes sense:

I have been re-watching seasons 1 and 2, and it seems like he knows too much about the island to begin with and has some sort of agenda.  He can do things like predict when it is going to rain.  When he initially fails to get in the hatch he says, “This isn’t how it’s supposed to happen.”  At the time, I just attributed this to some crazy man who thinks he has some sort of ‘destiny’ to be on the island.  But what if he was working toward a goal the whole time?  “You have no idea what I went through to get here.”

John Locke was no longer paralyzed after the crash.  I initially attributed this to the island being “a place where miracles happen.”  Now I think he was not paralyzed because he was the smoke monster.

The smoke monster is for some reason now stuck in the form of John Locke.  Perhaps this is because once the smoke monster possesses someone for the second time, it can no longer change into another form.

Now for the holes:

He was already off the island, why didn’t he just stay there?  When someone uses the donkey wheel to get off the island, they become themself when they arrive back in the real world.  The smoke monster can’t travel off island via donkey wheel.

Why did he do so much to prevent them from getting off the island in the first place?  Jacob had to die and he needed things to do according to plan in order to make that happen.

Didn’t the smoke monster grab him once and try to pull him in a hole?  Yes, and he begged Jack to let him go.  A pretty weird request if he was actually worried about dying.  I think the smoke monster can be part smoke / part person as the long as they are connected.  This is why the smoke monster was able to appear to grab Richard’s wife on the Black Rock.  His wife was the smoke monster, but the smoke monster can look like he is attacking someone that he is taking the form of.

Tell me what you think.

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Written 17th February

Flocke/MIB says that he wants to “Go Home” in Episode 1 this season.  He also said in the most recent episode that he was a man just like Sawyer once.  Where / what do you think he means by “Home”?

Most logical for me is he wants to leave the island and go back to dry land.  For what purpose is up in the air, too.  To wreak havoc/destroy the world?

Are there any more exotic theories on MIB’s “Home” out there based on evidence from the show?

I’ve read some really bizarre things like “MIB/Flocke” is an Alien and wants to return to his home planet.  Or maybe less strange, that Flocke wants to time-travel to change the history of things in his favor permanently.  Is Flocke like Dorothy stuck in an alternate world as in “The Wizard of Oz” — MIB just wants to go back home to Kansas and forget this fantastic nightmare?  LOL, if Flocke puts on a pair of ruby red shoes and starts saying “There’s no place like home,” I’m going to laugh.

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I know plenty of people hated last week’s episode. I’m okay being in the minority (which is why I post this in the debate section) but I think that there were at least a few things learned from “What Kate Does” that are worth noting.

The more I think about this episode the more I like it.

1. ASH — SMOKE(Y) — FIRE — Part of the test we saw performed on Sayid involved blowing ash over him. Ash is once again seen as significant as it relates to Smokey. The irony and hopefully staring-us-in-the-face clue is that ash and smoke (the visible form of “the Monster”) are both correlated to fire. Fire is the very place that Jacob ultimately died, beneath the Greek symbols for “The fire pit burns brightly to ash.” Bram carried ash with him and instantly knew to use it as protection when facing Smokey. The Others got out their stash of ash to use as protection against “him” coming. Fire, ash and Smokey = all related, all worth paying attention to. They could have used plenty of other symbols or items that would ward off a Smoke Monster, like water (oh hey dirty fountain water) or trees (which seems to have been important in the past) but we keep seeing the use of ash.

2. HOW IS SAYID HEALED: MIB? JACOB? JACK? — It’s not yet possible to identify exactly how Sayid came back to life, even if he is considered alive-but-infected. On Chief’s post, I threw into the mix the possibility that Jack healed him. Jack is now actually being the most honest and humbled he has been in awhile, if not his entire life. It would be fitting that Doc the healer for the past 5 seasons is finally owning his limitations and inability to control things at the very time that he now can actually heal as he has been destined to heal and lead. (I throw “lead” in there because that little sit-down with Dogen and the talk on leadership was not ‘filler.’) This possibility also fits with the past seasons leading us to believe that Jack is special and his role as leader/healer and “Shepard” bloodline is significant.

3. CLAIRE — Claire is infected and Danielle-esque. There is plenty of conversation on this elsewhere on the site, but it still counts as something we learned.

4. “THE DARKNESS IN HIM” — This isn’t just about Sayid. Sawyer is headed down a dark path of isolation and hopelessness. This is one more significant addition to the storyline of “sides” and whose side he will end up on, as well as the overarching trust issues that we are finally getting to. The Losties divided has never worked out well, and at some point he will have to make series (and character) resolving decisions based on who he trusts and what he does because of it.

5. MORE SYMBOLISM — Obvious use of images (and one previous episode’s statement) that symbolizes being bound to each other: an engagement ring, handcuffs, and from LA X, the line “nice to see you out of those chains.” In Kate removing her handcuffs, is she finally free? (See #6 below.) If anything, to me these were symbols to pay attention to as the theme of trust and sides in point #4. Should we count on Sun & Jin’s wedding ring making an on-screen appearance soon to remind us of these ties and eventual divisions between the Losties? Most likely. And thinking more on that…the fact that Jacob appeared to Sun & Jin at their wedding, where they gave each other their rings and his blessing to them was about their love (unity), it’s quite fitting that Crazy Claire finds Jin of all people. But hey, maybe that was just filler. Just kidding.

6. WHAT KATE DOES — Finally, to Kate and what she DOES. The episode is called what Kate DOES, present tense. She did in one timeline what she is trying to do in the other. (Seems pretty significant to me.) In Sideways timeline (no 815-crash) she accomplishes the very goal that motivated her to go back to the island in the 815-crashes timeline: find Claire in order to reunite Claire with Aaron, as Kate believes that Claire should be raising her son. In the no-crash timeline, she finds Claire (on the street) and in the hospital she offers Claire the advice, “You should keep him.” Which is like another way of saying, “you and your son belong together.” (She could have added, “TRUST ME, I KNOW” if we are to think that the characters have some soul-type connection to their “other” timeline self.) The belonging together type of statement sounds a lot like Kate believes a bit in destiny.

The fact that Kate DID what she is trying to do elsewhere is so critical to our understanding of how the writers are leading us through these two timelines. If we miss these types of overlaps, I tend to think we are missing the bigger picture. All of the past seasons use of Flashbacks and Flashforwards were vital components of how we understood what was happening with the characters, why they were making the choices they were, and they also provided major clues to some of the very things us viewers have been debating and trying to figure out. Whether it is about changing the past, destiny, course correction, or resolving who represents “good” based on the choices that they make — this “new” timeline has to be paid attention to for how these major themes get resolved.

Obviously, everyone who hated this episode can hate it. To me there was plenty to chew on, and ultimately I believe character-centered answers are going to trump obvious ‘island-mystery’ answers whether us viewers like it or not. I think plenty about the island will be answered soon enough, but not at the expense of showing us how significant certain tensions, divisions and resolutions are for the main characters first.

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Alright, this might sound a little far-fetched, silly, way out there – but it’s kind of like a little light went on inside my head. This is for some hardcore Star Wars fans – and don’t worry, it does link up to LOST.

So, I have been rewatching the Star Wars Trilogies this past week, and something struck me that hadn’t before. I never truly understand the “Prophecy of the one who will bring balance to the force” because I never really understood what ‘bringing balance to the force’ really meant.
What I realised is that the Jedi order has slowly been losing their powers and abilities to use the force because of the increasing prescence of the Sith. The Sith eventually gain enough power to overthrow the Jedi order – which leads to the purge at the Jedi temple.
Now, it was believed that Anakin Skywalker was the chosen one to bring balance. And although young Skywalker actually is responsible for the death of many Jedi, in the end he is also responsible for helping the Jedi return. He kills Sidious and his son becomes the newest Jedi knight, able to teach others the ways of the force. He brings balance insofar as the Jedi will now be able to have their full abilities to use the force once again.

Now, bringing this all back to LOST. I’m not saying there is a force or anything, but, there is a struggle between to sides to have control of the Island – Jacob and MIB. Consider the fact that MIB’s power has been growing, and he has now found his loophole which allows him to finally kill Jacob. The balance of power has been altered.
So, there must be one who brings balance to this power struggle. I nominate 2 possible contenders: Walt, whose abilities scare the crap out of me, and Aaron who was only supposed to be raised by Claire and no one else. Perhaps one of these two boys is the chosen one, meant to come back to the Island and restore the balance of power. I’d like to side more with Aaron (although, I’m open to suggestions as to why Walt is the chosen one). Remember in season 5 when Claire appears to Kate (most possibly as the Smoke Monster or the MIB) and tells Kate to never bring Aaron back. This might be because the MIB knows that this child is the key to his destruction – so he makes sure that he cannot come to the Island.

That’s pretty much my theory. Hurley’s reference to Star Wars in season 5 also helps connect the meaning of one story (Star Wars) to this particular story – so it may not be a total coincidence that it gets thrown in there.

Anyways, thoughts? Comments?

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First of all. I am new to posting but have been reading the site for quite some time now. Sorry if I make rookie mistakes.

I would like to start by saying that there is OVERWHELMING evidence that smokey is MIB. The first of which comes from the producers themselves. There have been many interviews in which we have been told by the producers that we have seen the smoke monster before in various forms before such as the black horse, Yemi, etc. So we know that it can take many forms. Conjecture about the true meaning of Flocke’s words “sorry you had to so me like that” usually seem pretty contrived, but then again a lot about this show is.  The rest of this theory goes with the assumption that the smoke monster can take different forms, those forms are (usually?) dead, and at the start of the show, its current form was John Locke.

Now to the idea of Flacob, or, Fake Jacob.

When Jacob appears to Hugo, he instructs him to take Sayid to the temple. Hugo, who has no idea where this is, is then told that Jin would know where it is. When Hugo asks Jin where it is, he tells him about the small hole under the wall where the entrance is. The reason Jin knows this is because he watched the Smoke Monster kill Rousseau’s friends or get dragged down into the hole. Why would Jacob know that Jin would know where the entrance is? He probably wouldn’t, but the Smoke Monster definitely would.

The second important part is that while this is happening, Smokey was left alone by Ben in the room where he killed Jacob. Depending on the chronological ordering ( In show playback time, Jacob appears to Hurley, then MIB/Smokey tells Ben to go get Richard, after which Ben and Richard have a talk/confrontation outside the statue with every one else, then Jacob tells Hurley what to do) this leaves MIB/Smokey to disappear for a while to trick Hugo into doing his will.

Some problems with this I admit are the fact that it depends on whether Ben goes outside before or after Hugo sees Jacob in island time. Also, most times that Smokey makes forms into someone/something else, that thing is wearing dark colors and black. Not the case with Flacob/Dead Jacob.

This all then begs the question, what the hell would Smokey need Sayid saved for. Maybe he was summoning some one else into his body? Those are answers I don’t have.

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Written 4th February

So I’ve never come up with my own theory before. I’ve been THOROUGHLY enjoying reading through everyone else’s ideas, but I’ve been trying to keep my mind from going down a path, convincing myself it’s true, and then being disappointed when it turns out to be false. I’m afraid it would ruin the show.

However, I was reading Cheifof16’s theory “MIB isn’t smokey” and came up with this idea, working on the assumption that MIB is NOT the smoke monster.

Jacob and MIB have inhabited the island as some type of spiritual, living creatures for years. Maybe they were part of some older tribe and figured out the way to live eternally, maybe they were just there, I don’t know. At some point in this history, MIB died. Because of the island, or because of his uber-spirituality, he doesn’t simply disappear, but instead is stuck on the island with Jacob and is now forced to follow certain “rules”: he can’t cross a line of ash, he can inhabit the bodies of others who have died, and because he is not actually alive, he can’t kill anyone…including Jacob. Instead, he’s figured out how to control Smokey and has been using him to kill losties, others, etc. However, Smokey can’t touch Jacob, because Jacob isn’t a mere human. His spiritual force is too strong. Only a living human can kill Jacob (because he used to be one…? I’m not sure on this one.). And for whatever reason Jacob can’t control Smokey, maybe for the same reason.

So MIB has to use Ben to kill Jacob. Not even using Locke’s body will work, because they’re both still dead.

And I think what this means is that Jacob’s story isn’t over. He’ll now be forced to follow the same “rules” as MIB. The ash will now keep him out of the temple, he’ll be able to use the bodies of the dead to come back to life…maybe even Sayid? That would also explain his sudden resurrection, wouldn’t it? Maybe Jacob, now dead, is using Sayid’s body to help lead the losties/others to defeat MIB.

And hopefully Jacob can now control Smokey…

There are probably plenty of holes in this theory. Or maybe someone has already come up with it and I just haven’t seen it…there are a lot of theories to go through. 🙂 More than anything, my imagination started running, and it was fun to think about. I’m not married to it, and I’m excited to see if I’m proven wrong or right.

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When Locke says something along the lines of “I’ve looked into the face of this island… and what I saw was beautiful,” it is reference to a scene where Locke saw the “monster,” but the audience never sees what John is looking at. He could have actually seen a white smoke monster – the manifestation of Jacob (assuming that his Nemesis is the black smoke monster)

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He goes by many names; Man in Black, Esau, Un-Locke. Whatever you call him, there are only two pieces of information that we know: 1) He wants to kill Jacob (and succeeds), and 2) He opposes new people on the island because their arrival will  “only end in fighting, destruction and corruption.”

Throughout the series, the Smoke Monster has been terrorizing the Losties and picking them off one by one. Occasionally, Smokie will analyze the person in question and let them live, but more often than not, he’s trimming the fat.

In the Season 5 finale, The smoke monster “judges” Ben. As a result, Alex appears to Ben and tells him to do whatever John Locke orders…which ultimately is “Kill Jacob.” My theory is that the Smoke Monster and Un-Locke are on the same side (whatever that side may be).

This theory is based on the idea that Smokie is smart enough to recognize that Locke is dead and that Un-Locke is in his body. It can be argued that it was Jacob’s “What About You?” comment that prompted Ben’s attack, but it’s Un-Locke’s orders that planted the seed.

Anyone have any thoughts?

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The other day I read here where someone referred to the smoke monster sounding like a taxi meter. Without listening to the smoke monster again I ran the sound through my head based on memory and I just could not make the taxi meter connection. Then this morning as I was showering, after, believe it or not, waking up from a dream about Lost the thought suddenly occurred to me. The mechanical sound we here is just like the one a garbage truck makes as it goes through its cycle. Taking this thought further, I recall from the first episode where we see the trees in the jungle dropping out of sight while the mechanical sound is as loud as can be. Could the garbage truck sound be a metaphor of soughts for the monster capturing and redepositing elements of the island just as a garbage truck does? Taken further, if alt timelines exist (and I do believe that they do) then one can ask, what is essentially happening if matter and energy got transferred between two timelines? Metaphorically, some may liken it to the capturing and redepositing of stuff going into a garbage truck. Kind of like garbage in, garbage out. What do you guys think?

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Okay, this last LOST Season finale has left me very confused. After a couple days everyone came to the conclusion that Smokey is the MIB and that Smokey had taken the forms of everyone on the island including Christian Shepard. Also the MIB is the fake John Locke or Flocke.

When everyone came to this conclusion, everyone basically agreed. I agreed at first with everyone, but then somethings didn’t make sense. First, people say that in “Dead is Dead” when..

Flocke Left—>Smokey entered——>Smokey left—->Alex entered—->Alex Left—->Flocke returned.

Now, people say Flocke left b/c Smokey can only take forms of one person at a time. This is not true if you believe that Smokey/MIB is everyone dead that comes back alive b/c if Ecko faced many apparitions of the dead people he killed in the church at the same time.

People say that Christian is the MIB because he was dead and is now on the Island walking around.Flocke is walking around too. There are many differences between Flocke and Christian. The first one is that Flocke is fully alive; he seems fully human. Christian Shepard is much more ghostly and appears in different places at a time. Another difference is that John Locke’s body was in the coffin, and Christian’s body is GONE.

so yeah there are some differences

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Ok, after doing some research and having the identity of the statue revealed by ABC themselves in their episode recap, I have deduced that Smokey is the Egyptian god of evil and general unpleasantness, Apep. Apep was associated with the underworld, and was sometimes referred to as an eater-of-souls. Hmmm, sound like anyone we know? If you haven’t already read the recap, the statue is confirmed to be Tawaret, Apep’s wife. Also worshipped to protect pregnant women. How much you want to bet the destruction of that statue is related to the fertility problem on the island? Oh, and Apep was in a constant struggle with none other than Ra himself.
But allow me to clarify, I don’t think the writers would simply have a collection of Egyptian gods running around on the island. So I’d guess whatever these deities are, they have been called many things over many years. Just a thought, so go easy as it is my first post. I have plenty more where this came from, though.

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I’m mainly trying to address the situation of Jacob and the Man in Black

First of all I see a lot of theories based on who is good and bad. I think this approach is a mistake. The themes of lost have always been made in a way to make people sometimes look good, and then you discover they are, or were bad, or vice-versa. I think the point of all of that is to show that there is no good or bad, only people in situations with different views, desires, and belief systems. Now, of course there is absolute evil and absolute good in some actions, however we have not seen enough of either of these men to know if either of them is totally consumed by either good or evil. I think the white/black shirts were meant as a stron symbol, and I immediately thought back to the first season when they found the two skeletons and the pouch with a white and black stone, and also locke’s speech about white and black when he was playing backgammon. I think it all ties together somewhat.

From the argument between the men, I feel that they are two opposed sides with strongly differing viewpoints. Clearly Jacob wants people on the island, he believes that there is good in people and for some reason feels that they should be on the island. The other man clearly does not want anyone on the island, and seems to not even want Jacob on the island(thus wanting to kill him). I know you’re saying “duh”: we know this already, but this just goes back to my previous point:

Neither of these views seem to be correct competely, nor do they seem totally incorrect. There are good people, yet humans clearly seem to have a history of death and destruction, which the man in black(though many seem to think represents death and destruction), seems to hate and want to keep away from him/the island. At the same time Jacob’s desire does not seem to be the destruction or death of anyone/anything, he just wants progress.

Now, under those assumptions, which I think are well based, neither is really “bad” or “good”, they just have different ideas on what should be done, and one resents the other for it. At the same time, they are bound by some unknown rules which seem to keep them from directly harming or stoping one another.

What is Jacob? I’m not sure. He would appear to be the leader of the group of hostiles/others, who he seems to “hand pick”(lists), good from bad, supposedly. Richard serves Jacob, but seems to be limited in his scope. He couldn’t tell that locke was an impostor, or that (aparently), the Man in Black had been using Jacob’s shed for his own plans. However I do think the lists came from Jacob, as richard got them from Jacob, and Richard seems to know that Jacob is located “in the shadow of the statue”.

So we have Jacob drawing the one group onto the Island, leading them from afar, selected the good ones, and then you

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First point, is about Jacob, he can’t be dead (Think of all the hundreds of years he has lived on the Island, Ben couldn’t of been the first person ever to kill him or to try at least). If Jacob is dead, is the reason he wanted Hurley on the Island is to communicate to his people through him, to make him the new leader?

Now that’s said I want to talk about his nemesis. Presuming this whole time that his nemesis was the smoke monster and now he is pretending to be John Locke. Since smokie told Ben not to kill Locke and if Locke was killed in his present form would smokie die too?

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Written on 16th May 2009

Nice simple theory for my first. Juliet would seem to have been positioned nicely to become the smoke monster.. nes pas ?

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Written on 14th May 2009

So right now you’re probably begging to know more about Jacob’s enemy? Why is he so eager to kill Jacob? Was that him in the form of Locke? All your questions surrounding him shall be answered here, brace yourself..what you are about to read may be considered a spoiler:

Jacob’s enemy (the man in the very first scene) is the smoke monster (smokie).

My thought is that he orchestrated most (if not all) of what has happened to every person since the Black Rock. He has conned his way into the minds of every person on the island in one way or another. Take Locke for instance, Locke encountered “smokie” early in season one and said that he had “seen the eye of the island, and it was beautiful” giving him a purpose to do what was necessary to save it, which eventually led to his death. Not excluding, though, the fact that over this period of time, he had become the leader of the Others, which forced Richard to believe/trust in him. So when Locke dies and his body is brought back to the island, “smokie” could then take on the appearance of Locke.

Another example is Jack, “smokie” appeared to him as Christian early in the first season which led him to become the leader of the survivors and made him obsessed with leaving the island, which had to happen in order for Locke to have a reason to leave the island and eventually be murdered by Ben.

So what I am trying to get at? Simple – Jacob’s enemy is the smoke monster and he is able to take on the form of anyone who died on the island. This is why when he met Jacob he stated how difficult it was for him to get to where he was. Taking on all those forms and give those people, Jack, Locke, etc a sense of purpose was not easy by any means.

**It’s interesting to note though that the dead people Hurley outside the Island (such as Ana-Lucia) may not be manifestations of smokie. They are most likely genuine apparitions of their former self.**

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Jacob’s Ladder, the gateway to heaven, has been cut off from the island by since arrival of Anubis, Egyptian God of the underworld and death. Anubis was somehow transported to the Island as part of the Black Rock cargo. The Black Rock left port somewhere in Africa, so it is likely that it contained some ancient egyptian artifacts, one of which housed Anubis (think Indiana Jones, The Ark of the Covenant).

Because of the special electromagnetic charactericteristics of the Island, Anubis’ arrival and actions on the island caused some disturbance in time, probably by his own design.

The Smoke Monster is the ancient Egyptian God, Anubis. Anubis, the half human, half jackal god protected the dead and escorted them into the underworld after weighing their hearts (judging them)to determine their worthiness for entrance into the realm of the dead. Egyptian mythology depicts Anubis as a sort of undertaker, who prepares the dead for the underworld, and part of this process is taking out the heart and weighing it. He is definitively depicted as the final judge of man’s heart. In Egyptian mythology, Anubis is always depicted in black symbolizing rotting flesh and the color of the black soil in the Nile valley.


Jacob is a biblical reference to Jacob’s ladder, a stairway or gateway into heaven that Jacob saw in a dream/vision from God. Jacob’s ladder extended from heaven down into the place where Jacob slept. Angels would use the stairway to enter heaven.The Island is the home of is gateway, and has special electromagnetic elements that embody this portal. References on the recent podcast by the writers joking about Jacob being 60′ tall and made of flames may allude to the possibility that this is indeed, a physical structure, stairway, or gateway. Jacob is the keeper of the gateway, and has been trapped by Anubis somehow.


Anubis can project visions of dead people to influence and control his agedna. Anubis is manipulating time and the people so that he can remain in control of Jacobs Ladder, the gateway to heaven used by Angels. All of his manipulations work to protect his stronghold over Jacob so that he can remain in power. Anubis/Smokey projected an embodied Alex just after Ben was judged. This means that Christian and Claire, who must be dead, are also Smoke Monster projections being used to manipulate the other characters.

The others may be Angels, stranded between heaven and earth, waiting for Jacob to open the gates to heaven. Anubis has cut them off from the gateway, and has created false prophets (Ben, Widmore, Alpert) so that they will blindly follow their leaders in the name of Jacob.

The whisperers are the whispers of the dead, who can be beckoned by SM/Anubis.

Walt’s psychic projections are not from Anubis. Walt has a special psychic gift and can “astral project” visions of himself or other thoughts when he feels strong emotions. His psychic gift is similar to Miles, but is not under the control of SM/Anubis. People born with gifts may have been influenced or enhanced in utero by the island somehow, but they are not under the direct control of the SM.

When Locke says he is going to kill Jacob, I think he intends to ‘unveil’ the ‘man behind the curtain’ (Ben) and reveal Jacob’s true nature, or at least some aspect of Jacob.

John Locke–The Individualist. The character was named after John Locke, the English philosopher whose theory of mind is often cited as the origin for modern conceptions of identity and “the self”. John makes many mistakes during his life, and each time he is ‘lead astray’ he gets physically injured. John was naïve, trusted the wrong people, and as a result (paralysis, kidney abduction) he became angry and willful, refusing to let anyone ‘tell him what he can’t do’. He is lead down the wrong path by his own anger, by stubborn willfulness and looses the love of his life. He starts down the right path by going on a walkabout, and ended up on the island healed from his paralysis. On the island his anger and stubborn willfulness dissolves, and he begins to get on the right path after stalwart soul searching. He listens to his heart (and sometimes voices in his head). He over corrects, however, and gets off the path in the other ‘spiritual’ direction by listening to the Island, praying for signals, and zealously focusing on finding the hatch. John again starts to suffer injuries, paralysis, and Boone dies as a result. John starts to get healthy again only after when Eko helps put him back on the right path. But then, Locke naively listens to Ben, who tells him to turn the wheel, so Lock ended up back home in a wheelchair and eventually dead. John goes back and forth, until now, in season 5, Locke has finally found the proper balance of self-determination together with a dose of spirituality, and he suddenly has matured into a prophetic leader. He has also discovered his purpose, which is currently: “unveil the man behind the curtain”.

I think that John Lock represents the successful unification of the dual concepts of self-determination and destiny. His character is all about individuality and self-realization, but his is driven by a spiritual purpose. He is the balance of yin and yang.

I think John will expose Ben (and maybe Alpert) as false prophets, and will reunite the others (angels?) with Jacob and the gateway. Then he will walk away from the leadership position. Ultimately, I don’t think John wants to be a leader. He wants to be a hunter. When Locke was a teenager, the Hanso Group (Alpert) invited him to participate in a youth science camp, but he protested saying, ‘I like hunting and fishing and sports and cars’you know nothing about me!’ Ultimately, he will reject Alpert’s ways.

Jack Shepard ‘The Pale Horse, Dark Horse. Jack is the edification of self-determination without spirituality. Jack shows us that man’s willful self-determination, without a spiritual buffer, can turn even the best intending heroes into genocidal maniacs with nuclear bombs. There are many clues to his “Horse” symbolism including books on his shelf and the appearance of Kate’s horse (her hero). Jack Shepard is an analogy for Earl Swagger in Pale Horse Coming, by Stephen Hunter. ‘Pale Horse Coming is a raw and visceral thriller that explores the violence to which some people resort when society fails to eliminate injustice.’ In the story, Earl is a nice-guy-turned-hero who, with his team of 6 cohorts, resorts to unthinkable violence to rescue his friend. Jack Shepard’s heroism starts to go wrong when he begins to rationalize violence in the name of the ‘greater good’. Jack will try to blow up the island in an effort to save his people and himself, but will suffer the post-traumatic consequences of guilt and remorse unless he is stopped by Kate.

Ben Linus ‘Colonel Krutz, Nimrod,The False Prophet, Jacob (symbolically). Ben lives in fear/awe of the smoke monster, and does whatever the Monster says. He can communicate directly with the SM. For decades, Anubis has been manipulating his “false prophets”, speaking on behalf of Jacob who he has somehow trapped or imprisoned. There is plenty of evidence throughout the show that Ben’s current agenda is in alignment with Anubis, and is driven by fear. Ben’s dark side is also and analogy for Nimrod, the tyrannical leader of Babylon who turned the people away from god and caused disharmony and war between the people of the island. In one of Ben’s books, The Heart of Darkness. Colonel Krutz is the wise, gifted, charismatic idealistic leader who was eventually lead astray by his own agenda. This name, Color Krutz, is referred to several times in the story line, and we see the book with Ben. Ben started out as a nice kid, had the youthful idealism of a charismatic leader, but later became corrupted. Ben’s relationship with John is also an anaolgy to the struggle between the biblical brothers Jacob/Esau. Jacob (Ben) tricks his brother (Esau/John) out of his father’s blessing. A prophecy states that the brothers can not rise in power at the same time, as one rises the other will fall. The prophecy also says that the younger will lead the older. So Jacob will ultimately dominate, and John will follow Jacob. I think we will see some reversal in Ben in season six as he reconciles his character and reforms his ways.

The Dahrma Initiative, or perhaps the the technological development of the island, is an analogy for Babylon. Babylon was a great tower built for the glorification and edification of man, and is viewed as an act of defiance to God. God sees the people’s defiance and scatters the language of the people so that they could not understand each other. (i.e.,None of the island citizen groups get along–the different groups are always at war). God overturns the tower with a great wind. In the Midrash, it said that the top of the tower was burnt, the bottom was swallowed, and the middle was left standing to erode over time. I think some destruction of the DI infrastructure will take place eventually, and perhaps this destruction will be part of the incident, bomb situation on S6 finale. However, I think this babylon/dahrma anaoly is symbolic only, but interesting nonetheless.

Research Notes from wikipedia:

Jacob and Esau: sibling rivalry.
Jacob and Esau are the twin sons of Isaac and Rebecca. The boys displayed very different natures as they matured. “Esau became a hunter, a man of the field, but Jacob was a simple man, a dweller in tents”. John Locke reflects Esau, the Hunter, and Jack represents Jacob, but only symbolically.

“Rebecca received the prophecy that twins were fighting in her womb and would continue to fight all their lives, and after they became two separate nations. The prophecy also said that the older would serve the younger; its statement “one people will be stronger than the other” has been taken to mean that the two nations would never gain power simultaneously: when one fell, the other would rise, and vice versa.”

About Anubis
“Anubis was the god to protect the dead and bring them to the afterlife. He was usually portrayed as a half human, half jackal, or in full jackal form wearing a ribbon and holding a flail in the crook of its arm[5]. The jackal was strongly associated with cemeteries in ancient Egypt, since it was a scavenger which threatened to uncover human bodies and eat their flesh[6] The distinctive black color of Anubis “did not have to do with the jackal [per se] but with the color of rotting flesh and with the black soil of the Nile valley, symbolizing rebirth.”[6]”

“Anubis is depicted in funerary contexts where he is shown attending to the mummies of the deceased or sitting atop a tomb protecting it. In fact, during embalming, the “head embalmer” wore an Anubis costume. The critical weighing of the heart scene in Book of the Dead also show Anubis performing the measurement that determined the worthiness of the deceased to enter the realm of the dead (the underworld). New Kingdom tomb-seals also depict Anubis atop nine bows that symbolize his domination over the foes of Egypt.[3]”

Nimrod and Babylon
Now it was Nimrod who excited them to such an affront and contempt of God. He was the grandson of Ham, the son of Noah, a bold man, and of great strength of hand. He persuaded them not to ascribe it to God, as if it were through his means they were happy, but to believe that it was their own courage which procured that happiness. He also gradually changed the government into tyranny, seeing no other way of turning men from the fear of God, but to bring them into a constant dependence on his power’When God saw that they acted so madly, he did not resolve to destroy them utterly, since they were not grown wiser by the destruction of the former sinners [in the Flood]; but he caused a tumult among them, by producing in them diverse languages, and causing that, through the multitude of those languages, they should not be able to understand one another. The place wherein they built the tower is now called Babylon, because of the confusion of that language which they readily understood before; for the Hebrews mean by the word Babel, confusion…
Flavius Josephus, in his Antiquities of the Jews (c 94 AD)

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The earliest appearance of the smoke monster chronologically speaking was when Rousseau and her crew landed on the island and approached the exterior ruins of the temple, sixteen years prior to the crash of flight 815.

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Hey, whoever thought the Smoke Monster was a way to judge a man’s soul was right….

In the upcoming episode 5.12 ‘ ‘Dead is Dead’


To atone for sins of the past, Ben must attempt to summon the smoke monster in order to be judged.

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