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Can I get some help from….Lost4815162342…?

You wrote this as a comment in another post…please expand on this. It makes a lot of sense and very much questions why Hawking needs Desmond to return to the island. If everything happens the way it happend, than what would it matter?

“This is what I don’t understand about whatever happenend, happened; AKA immutable time theory. It absolutely implies that whatever the future holds for you, then it holds that no matter what your actions are. It implies that if someone came from the future and told you this is the way it will be, then you will have no way of keeping that from happening, no matter your actions. So if someone like Ms. Hawking actually believes in an immutable time line, then there would be no need to take action. I mean, whatever happens, happens anyway. The writers of Lost can construct any kind of time theory they want for their fictional work, but intellectually, I just cannot buy immutable time theory. And judging from so many theories centered around things changing in the past, many of you agree with me.”

This is very intriguing to me, and I must know if you have more thoughts on it…

Please allow Lost4815162342 to answer first, his thought, and I really want his thoughts before anyone elses.
Whether here, or a theory of your own, please expand.

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Abbot Enheduanna Schwarzschild Name meaning: -Abbot: Father defined by or in religious connotation/definition. From the beginning, Lost was riddled with religious tone and it was obvious it would play some sort of role. Seemed fitting to start here. -Enheduanna: Mesopotamian High Priestess and the modern civilization’s first recorded poet. I created the name after season 1. John explaining backgammon history to Walt spawned the idea that the island may have a link yo the beginning of civilization and maybe even time itself. It was “poetic” and important to add this to my pseudonym. I needed the mother of poetry in modern civilization to match the religious “Father” in my first name. -Schwarzschild: Reference to Karl Schwarzschild and Schwarzschild Black Holes. Smoke monsters, hatches, and curing paralysis doesn’t point to black holes…but the sci-fi elements ran deep and obvious. The wheel moving the island and transporting Ben felt like it got plucked from my imagination. A.E.S.

5 thoughts on “Can I get some help from….Lost4815162342…?

  1. You can respond if you want.
    This is just such a simple idea, that I am suprised I, or anyone else havnt used this more for argument/disussion of certain things.
    I love the premise of it, and it leads to so many more questions.
    It is very well explained in a paragraph by lost#s, that I would love to hear more insight from him…
    and I love to see that gravatar of crazylooking, pillpopping Jack, lol, what a great pic…

  2. Well, if someone came from the future and told you that you were going to do some action then you either do it or they were lying. If you don’t do it then they must have made it up because it never happened. They can’t have observed you doing something you didn’t do.

    Hawking needs to take action because… that’s what she does. She takes action.

    Intellectually, changing the past doesn’t work. It might work here because the show is a work of fiction. But in reality and action cannot prevent itself. If someone from the future observes you doing something then comes back in time to tell you not to do it and they succeed, then you don’t perform the action, they don’t observe the action, they cannot come back to tell you about it, you perform the action… Impossible.

  3. well in this episode it kinda went along with immutability being ok. i mean jack was privy to future knowledge of ben being a douche. he used this info to decide to NOT save him. he was like fuck the past, ima change it! however, this was exactly what was needed to make kate desperate enough to take him to the others to save him and make him the ben we love to hate. even if someone tells u the future, your reaction will only lead to the same result.

    perhaps unless you are desmond. but that is not proven yet

  4. But your actions are your personal responsibility. You do have a say in being part of the outcome of events or sitting them out.

    Jack makes the concious decision to sit out this particular episode and not be part of the making of Ben. As he says ‘If what happened, happened than my doing this or not will make no difference.’

    And other people, based on the moral imperative that you cannot let a kid die decide to act.

    I guess the determining moment is when Richard asks Kate if she is sure she wants hm to take Ben. When she says YES she determines Ben’s course for the future. Which is why it is a Kate episode and not a Jack episode.

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