Are Locke+crew in a different time then Sawyer+crew – Jack, Kate & Hurley?
Something I have been thinking about for a little while is why the O6 disappeared off the Ajira flight, but everyone else (including Locke, Ben and Lupidas) crashed onto the Hydra (smaller island off the coast of THE ISLAND)
I do remember Sawyer & Kate working on The Hydra and asking “what the hell are we working on” and they are told a RUNWAY!
– I also remember seeing the Ajira flight having “crashed” as though it was gently placed on the ground, no wreckage or anything. But I am not sure if I saw it sitting on a runway – I need to rewatch that episode (which was it?).
So my question is why the 06 – or 05 minus Aaron, disappeared off the plane, when people like Locke and Ben did not – they have been on the island before!
And you may argue that they did not disappear off the flight – because they did not leave on the chopper (like illegally lol) – but LUPIDAS left on the chopper, and did not disappear with the rest of them.
Do you think Locke, Ben and the rest of the Ajira survivors (Ceasar & Ilana) are in a different time (like when the runway was built) then the Sawyer crew who is living in 1974 and found Jack, Kate & Hurley??
Let me know what you think, I have no ideas!
Yes.
thats all you got is a yes?
we have been going back and forth all day, you have amazing theories and all you gave me is a yes?
c’mon i know you have more then that!
You asked if I thought they were in a different time and I do, so I said yes. I have no idea how that happened because we haven’t been given any information on that yet… I’m sure we’ll be finding out more soon…
Yea I knew what you meant by yes, I just know you’re good and was expecting a little more!
Its all good, I am about to leave work as well, good talking to you 2day!
I think they are in the same time frame….ben and locke didnt dissapear off the plane because ben and locke werent part of the 6……anyways we see that they find sayid next episode…where the hell did he go?
Yeah Highbrow, geez, cant even answer a siimple question with a long, rediculous, unneccessary answer, what gives?
Heh, Anyway. My version of yes doesnt go much further, but I will say that this is something that I think was not meant to be a question for us. I could be wrong, but I went into deep theory mode on a couple of posts, only to realise later that many hadnt a clue why I thought this way.
At the point we are now, it seems many are split on the decision. This wasnt really theorized at first, I think for the simple reason that some just assumed yes or no, without question.
My yes involves the runway…but unfortunatly, we have not actually seen the runway. Only the plane looking in better condition than 815 did, and again assuming. Others assume the flashes merely placed the O6 members nicely on the ground without real injury. This is a debatable issue, Im guessing for about 2 more days, but an important question in the face of a theory.
The yes given above, is also assumption. Sorry Highbrow, you know I agree, but we really dont know.
I honestly think that it is 2007 for the simple belief in the existance of the runway, and the fact that my assumption of the flashes were for timtravel purposes.
As to why the others didnt flash, that in my opinion, is because they did not bring everybody back to the island that was supposed to return. I have gone to depths with the fact that the leftover losties in the real world are all children. Three to be exact, Walt, Aaron, and Ji Yeon. I feel that these children are necessary to the island, and were neccessary for all the passengers, at least Ben, Locke, and Lapidus, to end up in 1977.
Im sure in the near future, we will see Dr Desmond Manhattan return with his floating caravan that has beguun child day care and something necessary will be restored.
My only problem with this thought is, whatever the hell Kate did with Aaron, obviously wasnt good considering the way she had acted around Jack. Im guessing the child is either dead, which doesnt make sense, or turned over to Ben.
Oh, I know my yes was an assumption. The question was do we THINK they’re in a different time period. And yes, I do think they are based on the same evidence you cited above.
I think the Losties who flashed went to a different time. I think that because, well, they’re not there with the rest of the 316ers! That and we’ve seen those flashes demonstrated many times now and we know they result in travel to a different time and we know that they only affect certain people (like Jin and not Danielle for example)…
As for Aaron… I think she either gave him to his grandmother or she ate him…
Joshcgs, I believe they are in the same time frame, personally.
If they were not, we would then have to see another flash of some sort, to reunite them in the same time frame, as the ’06’, and Sawyer & Co.
I don’t think that is going to happen, IMO. And, there would be no guarantee, they would end up in the same time frame. It’s all just a little too messy for my liking.
Yes, I know. The runway……
I was under the impression that is was confirmed that they are in different times because of the raft/canoe that Locke, Sawyer, Juliet, etc. ran into at the beach while they were still time jumping. The raft had an Ajira water bottle in it showing us that is was indeed a raft used by the Ajira crash survivors. When they found the raft, the beach camp was basically in ruins showing us that it was 2007/2008 time period. That proves it to me.
It’s assumed by most but not really confirmed. There are plenty of clues that they’re in 2007 (or some time after 2005 at least) but there are some unanswered questions…
There is an image showing the runway and a shot of the plane from “316” as clearly being ON that runway. This, along with he water bottle confirms that the Hydra survivors are NOT in the same time period as the O6ers and PASTies.
What does interest me is that the pilot and “a woman” took a canoe. We have not yet seen either Sun or Sayid. Ilena seems far less agitated to the point of nonchalance about the lack of Sayid in her presence then Kate’s marshall did, which means that he either flashed to the Island and she saw it happen, or he died. Unlikely.
If the woman who went with the pilot was Sun, WHY didn’t she flash to 1974? If Sayid hasn’t turned up between 1974 and 1977, then where- or when- is he?