Ben’s Consequence For Summoning the Monster
OK, the best I can I will give the statement by Carlton Cuse from the April 25th, 2008 Podcast:
6:17 Mark in the pod cast:
“I think it would be a fair deduction to say he summoned the monster. But..it also seems pretty clear from what’s going on in that scene, that you know, there are consequences to summoning the monster that even Ben doesn’t have control over. He looked a little nervous and was like, Let’s skidaddle.”
Now, let’s go to the season Finale where you get this conversation:
LOCKE: What’s that for?
BEN: I’m going somewhere cold.
(Zips up jacket)
LOCKE: Then where is mine?
BEN: You don’t need one because you’re not going with me.
LOCKE: Yes, I am going with you.
BEN: No, John, you’re not.
LOCKE: Jacob told me what we had to do. You don’t get to make all the decisions–
BEN: He told you what to do, but he didn’t tell you how because he wants me to suffer the consequences.
LOCKE: What consequences?
BEN: Whoever moves the island can never come back. So I’d like you to get on the elevator, John, and go back up. Richard and my people will be waiting 2 miles east of the Orchid.
Ok, maybe a stretch, but based on Mr. Cuse’s explanation of Ben not knowing the consequences when he summed the monster….and then, hearing John say ‘Move the Island’ at the end of the episode CABIN FEVER….I think we can at least reasonably assume, Ben’s consequence for summoning the SMOKE MONSTER is in fact to move the island.
Now, if this is true…it leads us to at least three other questions that need to be addressed:
***Is Smokey and Jacob related when it comes to communication?****
***If Ben is trying to get back to the island…is he disobeying his consequence, or was he simply not being truthful to Locke (which seemingly is always the case)?****
***So how the hell do Claire and Christian play into the whole DELIVERENCE of CONSEQUENCES on the island now*****
I’ve started the wheels turning on my theories on the three questions. However, they are outside the purpose of this theory and will post at a later date. So what are your thoughts? Do you think Ben’s consequence for summoning the monster was moving the island?
I’m not sure that the consequence of Ben summoning Smokey was for him to move the island.
At the time the island was under severe attack and moving the island was a way to protect it. I doubt under the cirumstances that moving the island was purely a consequence of Ben summoning Smokey.
I do like the connection though, but I’m not sure if this is the case 🙂
Well someone had to move the island at that point so maybe when Ben summoned Smokey it was his punishment to move the island rather than let someone else do it.??
You raise some valid points but someone had to move the island. I don’t think it was a consequence of sommoning smokey.
Although it’ll be interesting to find out more about this monster that has had us wondering since the very first episode!
This is ridiculous. Bens consequcence of summoning the monster was risking everyones lives. Surely?
Less of the ridiculous please Dix. Thank you 🙂
Ben moved the island because widmore now knows where it is. Thats it. Now, the bigger question, maybe even moreso than why, but is did christian REALLY tell this to locke, and if so, was ben really meant to move it?
i think its either deception, because christian or locke knew ben would do it. Or benipulation to get to where widmore is for revenge of his daughters killing. There is never a simple answer on lost, so ben just didnt do it because thats that. There is more reasoning to be done here.
the consequences were temporarily avoided by leaving the island. this is why ben turns the wheel, to escape the wrath of jacob. however, he knows he must return, he was simply delaying the inevitable, or concocting a plan to stop the consequences.
Maybe Ben wanted to kill everyone on the island and wanted to skip out before they all died and just figured the O6 would die on the boat since he already had Michael primed to blow it up.