if eloise died in the explosion of the nuclear bomb and never had danielle. danielle would never live to tell jack about him blowing up the island thus the explosion could have never happened
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The writers have already confirmed that the compass came from nowhere. There a paradox like what you describe doesn’t break any of the rules. However, I don’t believe an explosion occured that killed everyone.
Well, thinking about it, if Eloise did die when the H-Bomb went off, Daniel wouldn’t have flashed back to 1954 to warn The Others to bury it, therefore it wouldn’t have been underneath Dharmaville in the first place.
Chances are if Daniel hadn’t told him to bury it it may have just gone of in the 50s.
Right, Eloise survived the incident and the explosion because if she didn’t then they’ll have to tell the whole story again without her in it but then Daniel wouldn’t go back and there would be no bomb, so on and so forth. It’s a paradox.
The compass paradox is completely different. It might not be a paradox at all.
It must have existed because we’ve seen it. I think it’s important that Mr. Just For Men is involved now. He could account for the origin of the compass just like he turned out to have a hand in Locke chasing his destiny to be the leader (instead of making it all up for himself)…
2007 – Richard gives compass to time-jumping Locke.
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1954 – Locke gives compass back to Richard. Richard keeps hold of it.
—>
2007 – Locke asks if Richard kept the compass, to which he says he did. They set off through the jungle so that Richard could give the compass back to time-jumping Locke.
—>
After 2007 – Richard has given the compass back to time-jumping Locke and it no longer exsists because neither of them have it now.
I think the compass is different and just a non logical puzzle.
If the explosion killed
Eloise -and possibly everyone on the Island (how many miles were wiped out in Heroshima?)than they created an alternate universe (like another JJ abrams project). So the losties traveled from one universe to another, died in one but have rewritten lives in the other.
I think the final season will be the rewritten history and the story of how Jacob and his nemesis manipulate the losties to get the outcome they wanted.
Also this sort of endless time loop that is created could be a way of restarting whatever game they are playing. Like starting a new game of chess. In that context the “It always ends the same..” comment at the beginning of the last episode is very specific rather than just a general comment on humanity.
The writers have already confirmed that the compass came from nowhere. There a paradox like what you describe doesn’t break any of the rules. However, I don’t believe an explosion occured that killed everyone.
Well, thinking about it, if Eloise did die when the H-Bomb went off, Daniel wouldn’t have flashed back to 1954 to warn The Others to bury it, therefore it wouldn’t have been underneath Dharmaville in the first place.
Chances are if Daniel hadn’t told him to bury it it may have just gone of in the 50s.
Right, Eloise survived the incident and the explosion because if she didn’t then they’ll have to tell the whole story again without her in it but then Daniel wouldn’t go back and there would be no bomb, so on and so forth. It’s a paradox.
The compass paradox is completely different. It might not be a paradox at all.
After Richard gives the compass to Locke in 2007 it no longer exsists as neither of them have it after this point. So did it really exsist at all?
It must have existed because we’ve seen it. I think it’s important that Mr. Just For Men is involved now. He could account for the origin of the compass just like he turned out to have a hand in Locke chasing his destiny to be the leader (instead of making it all up for himself)…
Highbrow, that probably is the most logical explaination for it.
I just find it facinating that it no longer exsists (or am I wrong? Hmm…)
I think it’s amazing you all followed the status of the compass, I tried, but got overwhelmed. Someone should post the history of the compass.
History of the compass:
2007 – Richard gives compass to time-jumping Locke.
—>
1954 – Locke gives compass back to Richard. Richard keeps hold of it.
—>
2007 – Locke asks if Richard kept the compass, to which he says he did. They set off through the jungle so that Richard could give the compass back to time-jumping Locke.
—>
After 2007 – Richard has given the compass back to time-jumping Locke and it no longer exsists because neither of them have it now.
Time-jumping Locke has it…the one in the coffin:)
I think the compass is different and just a non logical puzzle.
If the explosion killed
Eloise -and possibly everyone on the Island (how many miles were wiped out in Heroshima?)than they created an alternate universe (like another JJ abrams project). So the losties traveled from one universe to another, died in one but have rewritten lives in the other.
I think the final season will be the rewritten history and the story of how Jacob and his nemesis manipulate the losties to get the outcome they wanted.
Also this sort of endless time loop that is created could be a way of restarting whatever game they are playing. Like starting a new game of chess. In that context the “It always ends the same..” comment at the beginning of the last episode is very specific rather than just a general comment on humanity.
Okay that was confusing. For a while there I thought everyone knew that Danielle was related to Eloise and that blew my mind, lol.
I think LOSTFAN meant for it to read: ‘Daniel’ not ‘Danielle.’ I think that’s the confusion, Mrs. Sawyer
or maybe the bomb just doesn’t go off and the incident occurs, taking care of the whole h-bomb thing, and all the people die just like Alpert says.