The button, Jacob/MIB, Jughead, Losties, Love
This is long, but connects many discussions. Thanks to all. (I had a better one, but then it wanted me to login : ( )
This is based on the following premises (which may not be true, but assumed so here).
Smokie is MIB or his minion. MIB/Jacob are adversaries. Where-not-supposed-to-be-Walt is Smokie.
Walt says “don’t press the button. the button is bad.” Not pressing button is what MIB wants.
When you don’t press the button
-Communication is restored
-Widmore’s people come in w/guns blazing (not ‘the good guys’)
-Destroys the world
-Anyone got any ideas to add?
These are things MIB wants.
Who wants button pressed are Jacob’s side.
-Mr. Eko. After epiphany decides he needs to do it – then is killed by Smokie.
-Mrs. Hawking. Convinces Des. it’s the only important thing he’ll do.
-Libby. Gives Des the boat that gets him to the island. (Hurley reason not known but impt.)
-Dharma (most)/De Groots. They made the button. (and advertise for those who ‘want to save the world’)
-Daniel. Sent by Mrs. H and went to AA to figure it all out.
As for Dharma, I’m not so sure about Horace (who brought Ben and seemed kinda’ kill crazy) and Radzinski (who designed the Swan and worried about spys – though wanted Sayid dead … of course, if he was he wouldn’t have shot Ben … )
Alpert. Think he manipulates in MIB’s favor, invoking Jacob’s name. [Jacob must be ‘historically’ known to be a great man (who wants to save the world?) to the Others or MIB could just as well be named.] May be double-agent.
-Tested John (turned him down 1st, Jacob?)
-Brought Juliette (who sets off Jughead and causes incident, which MIB wants)
-Lets Daniel try to diffuse and eventually move Jughead (Jacob?)
-Took away Ben’s innocence (told him to be patient – MIB)
-Told Ben it was Jacob, not MIB, in the cabin (to which Horace is tied, too. Also, MIB seemed imprisoned in the cabin; perhaps to hold back his evil ways? Alpert seemed concerned Ben was bringing John to ‘Jacob’. Maybe he didn’t really want him out, either, or coulda’ kicked the dust.)
Note: John seems to be Alpert’s wildcard flip. Maybe he was a ‘sign’ from MIB. I think seeing Jacob die will turn him against MIB.
Ben. Poor Ben. Think he was duped. : ( Brought along the others.
Widmore is interesting ‘cuz he questioned Alpert’s ‘leadership’ in the 50s and has at least a slight alliance w/Hawking/Dharma?
Think it’s interesting Dharma built over Jughead (Jacob protection) and Ben has direct link to Smokie (anyone know whose house he took over? Horace’s, perhaps?)
Now, for the variables – primarily LOVE. I think it ‘fixes’ the MIB plan. Specifically, though Smokie corrupts through love relationships, sacrificial love is more powerful.
-Charlie stopped the jamming for Claire’s love.
-Juliette smashed Jughead out of love.
-John left the island (something he worked hard at never doing) to help his friends.
-Daniel is giving is life for love of Charlotte.
-Michael … Roger …
(MB uses hate, too, think killing of Cooper and even Jacob (by killing Alex).
The rules could be to keep from HATING (established by Jacob. Killing kids def. can spur up hate.)
Love themes to be explored – Jack’s pain. Jin/Sun/(missing kid). Claire/Aaron. Ben/Annie. Rose/Bernard. Adam/Eve. Hurley has some big part (no pun intended). He loves Charlie AND Libby (and just everyone, man).