They didn’t sink the Island. They saved it from sinking.
Ok. This just came to me. I might have read it somewhere else and it lodged deep into my subconscious only to be uncovered now, but I hope it is an original thought. If you thought of this before take the credit. Don’t want people getting angry 🙂
SO… In the alternate time line the island is underwater and the losties never crashed. We know from last nights episode that dharma was on the island in this alt timeline. However, since the losties never crashed, they were never around on the island in order to travel back in time and detonate jughead to negate the energy at the swan station. Without this energy having been negated, it causes the island to sink and it builds up (not exactly sure about the science behind it, but lost is a bit iffy on the science anyways).
In the regular timeline we all know what happened…they DO detonate jughead, negate the energy and save the island! This is one of the reasons they are so important. Maybe even Faraday knew this to be true, and in order to make the losties help him, he told them it would reset everything.
Perhaps Juliet says: “It worked” because it saved the island. Just maybe.
Well either are the possibilities and have been discussed ad nauseam
I for one is not convinced that the following are facts
a) the bomb went off
b) there is a scenario where the Losties don’t crash
For “a” we don’t actually see the bomb go off, all we see is a flash of light similar to when Des turns the failsafe key
For “b” I still think what happened happened, doesn’t mean what will happen will happen
i believe the alt is not connected to the bomb going off. it is either MIB’s world just a what if sort of thing.
and im sorry i missed the discussion. i went off the site for a while before this week, only showing up occasionally.
Iv touched upon this subject before (i named it the grandfather paradox)
To me this is how the alt. timeline exists. To erase the paradox? ..I dont know what im saying 🙁
There are so many different thoughts on these two subjects alone that i forget which ones are mine. And as you have now got my mind working, iv realised i know next to nothing about what is going on! Boo!
c’mon Eko man, i said this!!
http://www.theoriesonlost.com/2010/02/dr-shephard-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb/
It would make sense because the idea of the the explosion sinking the island in another timeline, doesn’t make sense. I agree that one of the reasons ‘tasks’ was to save the island that day, although they thought they were doing something quite different.
I’m starting to have second thoughts about my views of the ALT. I originally thought that it might be a previous instance of the timeline, before the losties were chosen and brought to the island, but now i’m not so sure.
i did a search on the main page of island and sink and it didnt pop up. thats why i went ahead. well i really like the idea. and im sticking to it. thanks a bunch.
That whole conversation is just a complete pain in the ass for me.
Did the bomb go off? If it did, did it cause the alt. Timeline? Why didn’t everyone die from the bomb going off? Is it what caused the island to sink? How did it cause the Losties to time travel? If it DIDN’T go off, what was the bright light from? What would the alt. timeline’s significance be? What,how,when,why,who, yadda,yadda,yadda…..
I hate this whole scenario and I pray to god the writers can patch this thing up in a fashionable and believable way.
i actually really like this, it seems simple enough to work.
Anyway, what you’re saying makes sense, I hadn’t personally thought of it that way…unfortunately, a lot of ideas could make sense about the sinking.
my view of what happened is sort of, the bomb was a big energy, what Dharma were drilling into was a big energy, but when they came together, they cancelled eachother out. so the drill site situation was neutralized, and on the other hand, there wasn’t an explosion as such.
I’m no scientist (obviously), but that was how i saw it. On how they flash back to 2007, I dunno about that one…aliens?
I dare to say that it’s highly unlikely that a nuclear bomb and a pocket of magnetism would somehow cancel eachother perfectly.
And I’m actually a physicist. 🙂
But if we depart from reality, anything is of course possible.
ilie,
i think flashing back to 2007 after the bomb ‘goes off’ is a massive departure from reality.
And its good to know we have a physicist on the site, you might wanna keep that quite, or people are gonna start asking you a bunch of questions.
I have a similar yet different idea on this. In the original timeline, the losties went back to the 70s and always tried to detonate the bomb, but Juliet didn’t go through with it, but they did stop Radzinski from drilling any further. Those events lead to the timeline we saw in seasons 1-5. The events in ‘The Incident’ have Juliet actually detonating the bomb — this creates a grandfather paradox, and the universe splits the timelines to counter this. In the new timeline (which has occurred since 77) 815 doesn’t crash and the losties don’t go to the 70s, there is no one to stop Radzinski. He drills right into the core of the pocket of energy — sinking the island somehow. Don’t know but it does fit.
I’m confused about something. Can any of you help? If in SLU the island is underwater then why would SLU Ben and his dad have a conversation about Dharma and if they had stayed implying that they could have. Would they not have mentioned somethng about it be sunken? Have I missed a basic point.. be kind.. I need the remedial version of LOST this season. Thanks
well in the alt, the losties never flash to the past because they never crash. therefore sayid doesnt shoot ben, etc. and maybe if sayid doesnt shoot ben, roger gets all fed up with dharma (like he was doing anyway) and leaves the island during the evacuation.
It seems as though Roger and Ben left the island before the evacuation (if it happened in this timeline at all). When Roger is talking to Ben he makes it sound as though it was his decision to leave rather than some big emergency evacuation.
well yes you are right, it seems there wouldnt be an evacuation under my circumstances (no faraday to warn them). but he seemed pretty pissed at dharma the whole time, and maybe ben getting shot made him stay…
Good call. Roger seemed like he was pretty fed up even before Ben got shot, maybe since it never happened, Roger took Ben and got the hell outta there.