Destiny Calls transcript bits

I only just saw the Season 5 pre-episode catch-up ‘Destiny Calls’, as I don’t have satellite or cable.

I thought there were some interesting points made by D.L & C.C, so I have typed up those bits here for those who may not have seen it yet. I have typed it exactly as they said it. I haven’t typed the whole 45 minutes, just the bits I thought interesting.

the 3 points I found most interesting were about Ben & Widmore blaming each other for planting the plane in the sunda trench (I assumed it was Widmore but maybe not), the bit where he compares the island to an A.A meeting! & the bit about Jack jumping because he finally realised that he & Locke are like 2 sides of the same coin.

Anyway here it is: (words in italic are where I hear them change the tone of their point)

DL: The Island is like the worst A.A meeting you could ever imagine, as it forces you to relive your past, over and over again, so if you were a torturer, the island is going to present a situation for you where you get to choose whether or not you’re going to torture again’

CC: that idea of redemption is really the central thematic of the show.

DL: The Dharma Initiative was on the island back in the 70’s, early 80’s, what brought the Dharma Initiative to the island; it depends on not whether you believe these orientation films that our characters keep on finding. All we really know about DHARMA is what we see in these films. The Dharma Initiative says they came to the island to kinda make the world a better place, but when you look a little closer at these hatches, it feels like they were into psychological experiments, every one of these hatches is loaded with guns, so they seem to have been a little more militaristic than we originally surmised.

CC: they set up their own utopian society and they were trying to carry out these experiments, but then they discovered ‘oh there’s these indigenous people on the island’ called ‘the others’ or ‘the hostiles’.

DL: Whenever somebody else comes to the island, the others, essentially, sort of like hermit-crabs, wipe them out and start to use their stuff, so they have access to satellites, they live in houses and have little book-club meetings, and this submarine that used to go between the island and back to the real world, so they’re able to sorta leave the island at their own will.

CC: and they’re very unhappy about fact that these survivors landed on their island; there’s an uneasy truce which lasted for a while, but there’s also hostility and conflict, Ben is a bad guy, and Ben has basically done a lot of horrible things to further his own power.

DL: we know the island has been around for a long time, because, occasionally, we will stumble upon the people who were here before. We find a ship in the middle of the jungle, how it got there we don’t know, but we know that it’s from the 19th century.

CC: We saw this foot of a giant statue that was by the water on part of the island.

DL: So the idea that there had been people coming to this island for many many years, why has the island been drawing people to it all this time?

DL: Richard Alpert is the guy behind the guy.

CC: He is an other, a very mysterious figure, and we have seen him in a kinda’advisory role. We saw him visit John Locke when he was a very little kid and the thing about Alpert is that he always looks the same in all the different time periods that we’ve seen him. John Locke seems to be the guy that the island wants to be leading, and Locke has basically destroyed two ways in which our survivors might get themselves liberated from this island. He blows up one of the dharma stations which is a communication station & then he blows up the submarine which is their best chance of getting off the island.

DL: There have been a lot of connections between the characters as time has gone by, some of which they are aware of and some of which they aren’t aware of, but all their paths have crossed in these strange and mysterious ways.

CC: there is this sort of weave-of-life in that these characters who are brought together on this island all are linked to each other.

DL: There’s this sort of ‘Wrinkle’ Oceanic flight 815 was supposedly on the bottom of the ocean and everybody aboard was dead, which is not the truth because their plane crashed on the island. Wow’who could potentially be responsible for staging a conspiracy of this magnitude? Ben basically says it was Widmore. He wanted everyone to think you guys were dead so no-one would ever find the island and he could find it for his own purposes and Widmore says Benjamin Linus is responsible for putting the plane there for exactly the same reasons.
We know Ben is a bad guy, because this boat which is full of even worse guys’they’re trying to get him. You send like 15 armed guys just to get’

CC: extract him

DL: Yeah, this one little guy. But they’re unsuccessful. He kills them all.

CC: Underneath the orchid is this mysterious wheel, and if you turn this wheel, that will actually cause the island to move in space-time.

DL: Jack starts popping pills and drinking; he starts seeing ghosts which is you know’bad

CC: That’s not a good sign.

DL: No. The he grows this really bad beard which is another sign.

CC: Yeah that he’s not a happy guy, and I think when you see how getting off the island has affected jack, maybe in fact, this re-enforces the notion that they have a greater destiny and that destiny is on the island.

DL: When Jack finds out that Locke is dead, he’s so devastated that he tries to kill himself! He goes and like gets on a bridge and he’s gonna jump, and you go wow, why is Jack so upset that Locke is dead?

CC: I think that what he comes to realise is that they’re kinda like two sides of the same coin, in a way they kind of need each other, and the island needs both of them in a way that Jack doesn’t really understand until that point.

DL: For reasons we don’t know, the island is invisible, if you fly over it you can’t see it, you know satellites can’t take pictures of it, so it’s very difficult to find. This island which was very hard to find before any shenanigans were pulled; now the island is completely gone so even if you wanted to get back to it, it would be enormously difficult.

CC: Meanwhile, the question is what happened to the people left behind, I mean the Island disappeared in a big flash of white light, where did they go and what are the consequences of that flash of white light.