On the other hand, I’m not too sure about the other man needing to be in the right space/time to kill Jacob. Maybe you can help me understand:
If taking over Locke’s body placed in the correct space/time, why did he still ask Ben to do it? Especially if he was the one who wanted to kill him so badly. Looking back to what Desmond said in the variable, what if Ben’s free will was the variable allowing Jacob to be killed? That would also explain why Jacob tries to tell him he has a choice.
As far as time goes, both men seem to be in the same time period based on their appearance and dress during the opening scene.
Before Zeus and Prometheus there were the Gods of the Sumerians Enki and Enlil. Some historians belive the Sumerian Gods were the prototypes for Greek, Roman, Hindu and Egyptian Gods and Goddesses as Sumeria was one of the first civilisations. Enlil, too, wanted to get rid of mankind off the Earth because he considered them a scourge. Enki went against his wishes and warned at least one guy who survived the flood sent by Enlil by building an arc. Historians consider this the beginning of pretty much all the flood legends. I hadn’t really thought of this relating to Lost at all until I read your theory awillet but if were going to go back to ancient mythology why not go all the way back? There is alot of really interesting stuff on Enki and Enlil on wikipedia. They are also related to the Legend of Gilgamesh. I can’t remember the guy from the floods name but he was granted immortality kind of like Richard.
Perhaps the Purge was a metaphorical microcosm of the proposed “scourge” to come. The direction of the plot does seem to point towards an oncoming “flood.” Very early on Locke does spin an allegory hinting at several key common threads of Western theology. In the broadest sense, things certainly seem to be shaping up as a referential summation of these ideas. The reason we keep finding individual myths/legends that correlate to these characters is that they all share a common origin and form the bedrock of ancient world views.
Interesting point on the time/space dynamic, too. I myself am constantly wondering if we are seeing time travel in a strictly scientific sense or rather a philosophical and metaphysical one. Either way, it’s a wonderful brain-twister.
Ooh Angus…someone else mentioned something to do with richard and The Black Rock….that he may have been on it. And he is seen in the episode before the finale buliding a model of a ship in the glass thing…maybe he built the black rock as a sort of ark idk…and was granted immortality because of it
You know I’m pretty sure the smoke monster, jacob and jacobs rival are all seperate entities. granted we never see the smoke monster and the rival in the same place through-out any season of lost but at the same time under the temple, locke runs off to find rope and the smoke monster went away, then bens daughter appeared as if locke was the one that really changed apearances to be bens daughter.
awillett5465, I like your thoughts on Jacob and his Nemesis, perhaps not being able to connect because of finding a loop-hole in time/space.
I had not really given this aspect too much thought, although we do see Jacob weaving with the wheel in the beginning of the episode.
I felt this was symbolic.
It’s certainly an idea worth considering.
Nice theory!
Interesting comments awillet, thank you!
I enjoyed reading the aspects of Greek mythology.
On the other hand, I’m not too sure about the other man needing to be in the right space/time to kill Jacob. Maybe you can help me understand:
If taking over Locke’s body placed in the correct space/time, why did he still ask Ben to do it? Especially if he was the one who wanted to kill him so badly. Looking back to what Desmond said in the variable, what if Ben’s free will was the variable allowing Jacob to be killed? That would also explain why Jacob tries to tell him he has a choice.
As far as time goes, both men seem to be in the same time period based on their appearance and dress during the opening scene.
Before Zeus and Prometheus there were the Gods of the Sumerians Enki and Enlil. Some historians belive the Sumerian Gods were the prototypes for Greek, Roman, Hindu and Egyptian Gods and Goddesses as Sumeria was one of the first civilisations. Enlil, too, wanted to get rid of mankind off the Earth because he considered them a scourge. Enki went against his wishes and warned at least one guy who survived the flood sent by Enlil by building an arc. Historians consider this the beginning of pretty much all the flood legends. I hadn’t really thought of this relating to Lost at all until I read your theory awillet but if were going to go back to ancient mythology why not go all the way back? There is alot of really interesting stuff on Enki and Enlil on wikipedia. They are also related to the Legend of Gilgamesh. I can’t remember the guy from the floods name but he was granted immortality kind of like Richard.
Perhaps the Purge was a metaphorical microcosm of the proposed “scourge” to come. The direction of the plot does seem to point towards an oncoming “flood.” Very early on Locke does spin an allegory hinting at several key common threads of Western theology. In the broadest sense, things certainly seem to be shaping up as a referential summation of these ideas. The reason we keep finding individual myths/legends that correlate to these characters is that they all share a common origin and form the bedrock of ancient world views.
Interesting point on the time/space dynamic, too. I myself am constantly wondering if we are seeing time travel in a strictly scientific sense or rather a philosophical and metaphysical one. Either way, it’s a wonderful brain-twister.
Ooh Angus…someone else mentioned something to do with richard and The Black Rock….that he may have been on it. And he is seen in the episode before the finale buliding a model of a ship in the glass thing…maybe he built the black rock as a sort of ark idk…and was granted immortality because of it
You know I’m pretty sure the smoke monster, jacob and jacobs rival are all seperate entities. granted we never see the smoke monster and the rival in the same place through-out any season of lost but at the same time under the temple, locke runs off to find rope and the smoke monster went away, then bens daughter appeared as if locke was the one that really changed apearances to be bens daughter.