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A.E.S.
Abbot Enheduanna Schwarzschild
Name meaning:
-Abbot: Father defined by or in religious connotation/definition. From the beginning, Lost was riddled with religious tone and it was obvious it would play some sort of role. Seemed fitting to start here.
-Enheduanna: Mesopotamian High Priestess and the modern civilization’s first recorded poet. I created the name after season 1. John explaining backgammon history to Walt spawned the idea that the island may have a link yo the beginning of civilization and maybe even time itself. It was “poetic” and important to add this to my pseudonym. I needed the mother of poetry in modern civilization to match the religious “Father” in my first name.
-Schwarzschild: Reference to Karl Schwarzschild and Schwarzschild Black Holes. Smoke monsters, hatches, and curing paralysis doesn’t point to black holes…but the sci-fi elements ran deep and obvious. The wheel moving the island and transporting Ben felt like it got plucked from my imagination.
A.E.S.
I’m here! Great idea!
Sorry took so long,lost connection. Ok, first off..THANK YOU. I have been studying the science of lost so much, i forgot why i truly love the show..the fiction. Great work dabs!
so the more i spoke of..i started doing a little digging on our friend…Mr.Eko. Hehe..im seriously giddy over this. He composed several books. One called something like..’the name of the rose’ another about delaying the apocolypse.. And another about…
Thanks AES, I didn’t know I had stumbled onto anything other than what I had. Just wikied Umberto Eco and Focault Pendulum and got an overview of the book.
Needless to say, I know why you were so intrigued.
I feel the writers, must be drawing on this in some respect, because they use so many literary references in their story telling.
It almost sounds like it could play into the story line in some regard.
i think it or should i say he already has..
I wish I had read the book. Seems like you have. I’m at a disadvantage, to discuss properly. I’ll have to do some more research, and absorb the concept and its implications.
If this is correct, then it might be paramount.
no thats the thing i havent read it, and studied literature in school. In fact..i never heard of this, but it exists. Stay with me, bout to blow your mind..
Like it isn’t already! lol
kimberly just responded to my theory. Check out her comment. Sounds like she’s a believer too!
The other book, the one that gets me more…it is about a man who shipwrecks in the 17th century..he has an evil twin…and believe me dabs..as far as everything i can tell, this is no gary troup bs.
I saw i saw, i cant stop right now dabs..because… theres more…sorry i just really like a good dramatic buildup…and i know its probably driving you nuts :]
AES, I’m slightly mad to begin with, so don’t worry. I am hanging on your every word!!
Very sorry, no more teasers, the book is regarding the person who is shipwrecked fighting personal issues, blaming everything on a family member (his brother) and is titled…might want to sit
…..”The Island of Day Before” !!!!!!!!!!
Me thinks I might know you who you are referring to.
Please…..you are torturing me now. lol
my god, it is 2 in the morning here and now i have to try to sleep…well Dabs..
This is an amazing connection you’ve made! Wow, just wow!
It brings ‘adversaries’ to a new level.
allow me to now twist everything that you are thinking, because no, i dont think it is Desmond that we’re building to…
Thanks for elaborating and discussing. i thoroughly enjoyed the discussion. I will give it a lot more thought.
Count on it.
Get some much needed rest, my friend!
the person who had, how do i put it, an almost role, you see, they didnt name our shipwrecked friend, he was never actually called anything…
but a name used in another book, and an actual real person who the character almost had a first name for………
Gotcha…..loud and clear. You are amazing!
Are you sure you are not HIM?
JACOB VAN EYCK…and i might be, maybe i just dont know it yet…or maybe i read a couple articles that are wrong or made up and this is all just babble, signifigance, or luck. Either way, great discussion and if you find any ground to stand on, or theory stomping evidence, let me know.. Its not that i hope im wrong, its not that its too easy (because it was not), its just nuts.
one quick correction.the main character does have a name..Roberto. He somehow (havent read it) shipwrecks..on a ship. While passed out, had a dream (flashbacks, hmm) about a man who he met before and played a recorder (flute), the man was blind, and HE was nameless, but the character is named after Jacob Van Eyck, who was a composer and recorder.
when the man awakes on the ship, he starts to go mad because he can hear the sounds of the flute and song the man was playing almost calling to him.
the true twist and plot point is discovering his ‘evil twin’ is actually a figment of his imagination. We continue to discover that he was a coping mechinism for roberto to deal with the real world.
his flashbacks, which is what they are referred to on many sites are NOT in chronological order. It is described as a book on truth, faith, finding ones true self, and finding meaning to ones life.
I really like what you’ve stumbled accross here – excellent work! 😀
emzi, for future reference, would this be considered a spoiler?
A.E.S. – We know Lost has references with other literature and they’ve been discussed loads of times before, I don’t see this as anything different.
You’ve picked up on another great reference that has lots of connections with Lost and as far as I can see this isn’t spoilerish because, even though there seems to be some connection, we know that Lost isn’t going to outright steal a story from somewhere else.
This is speculation on something you’ve found so I see this as more of a theory than a spoiler.
I hope everyone else who reads this sees it that way.
Hi emzi, I am so relieved you feel this way. It felt like we might be revealing the secret of who put the caramilk into Cadbury’s. lol
AES, I will see if I can make any further connections. Thanks again, for sharing.
OK that’s it, you’ve just ruined Lost for me!
Only kidding. Nice job by all of you! If L&C have read these two books (and it does seem that there are a lot of parallels with Lost) then it can only make the show that much better if you’ve read them. I might have to pick up both of them in the near future! Again, nice job to both of you!
Seriously Jukin, all of the thanks and praise should go to AES. He made the connection!
AES, I hope you’re working on a theory for this! I can’t wait for it!
mark my words, hawking is faradays mom
hawking…LA….des….what did i say
lol AES, At the precise moment Des found out that Daniel moved to the US, I thought of you! I knew you were right!
I’m still ‘choked’ the writers blew the mystery out of it, though.
Do you think Ellie, could be a young, Ms. Hawking??
Well, what i think really doesnt count, because i have no evidence whatsoever to support it..al instinct
..but yes i do. I think thats how she knew what to tell des before, because daniel, her son, told it to her before he was even thought of being in existence
It all makes sense to me. I’ll quit whining about it now. Grrr….Damon and Carlton!
I’m not as savvy as you all but am loving this connection, especially with the themes in the book — like it’s all a game invented by two people, with a mysterious third entity involved. (I’m sticking with my Sawyer in S5E1 comparison here.)
Please do write a theory! Draw some of those connections out that tie together Desmond and Hawking, as well as the power-struggle between Ben and Widmore and the island.
the struggle now is bigger than before, and i think i might do that with this theory..making sure i give credit where credit is due.
Knights_Templar…Templar=Temporal=time?
Snowy, love the above connection!
(apologies_in_advance_for_underscoring:_space_on_laptop_knackered!_or_am_I_messing_with_you!_muh-ha-haaa!)
It_seems_Lost_writers_draw_on_lots_of_literary_sources_(most_obviously_Alice_in_Wonderland_and_the_Wizard_of_Oz_(wasn’t_Harold_Perrineau_AKA_Michael_in_’Oz’?!))._The_novels_of_Eco_seem_to_share_many_themes_with_Lost:_I_hope_they_were_just_influences_rather_than_core_ideas._I_can’t_help_thinking_it’s_more_than_coincidence…
no such thing as coincidence in lost world..at least to my knowledge :]
About the Roberto character, and how he crashed on a boat… Rousseu’s lover’s name is Robert, and they crashed onto the Island beach… Just a thought, could be irrelevent.
CAPPAYNE, nice addition. cool thing is, in this weeks EW in the US, there is an article about lost, and they mention “the Faucault Pendelum” as a reference this season and WE actually caught it first.
Knights Templar…holy grail…any connection to Richard’s immortality and Locke’s probably resurrection/reincarnation? It just doesn’t seem epic if it doesn’t include the Holy Grail (stay tuned for possible Ark of the Convent (just kidding) ).
AES and Dabs you two are awesom. I stumbled on your thread through several other theories and now have to look into what you are talking about. Thanks for sparking my mind.